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BREAKING NEWS: Hawaii Democrats pick Bernie Sanders (Original Post) OneAngryDemocrat Mar 2016 OP
Yeah, but Hawaii is predominantly white C Moon Mar 2016 #1
Get it right. Hawaii is predominantly INFORMED. DrBulldog Mar 2016 #20
Indeed they are. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #43
I was poking fun at a Hillary supporter who was posting that he's only winning "white" states C Moon Mar 2016 #47
Come fall PATRICK Mar 2016 #63
+10000 as is Washington. We have won awards for most degrees per capita in the nation. Zira Mar 2016 #65
LOL! what else could explain it? Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #25
1 of every 5 workers is a union member too Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #31
woo hoo! C Moon Mar 2016 #48
No Candidate In History billhicks76 Mar 2016 #59
Can one assume PATRICK Mar 2016 #64
I Agree 100% And... billhicks76 Mar 2016 #66
2008 favorite son: BHO 75.8% - 23.6% HRC. Looks like Hawai'i has decided who the successor should be JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #2
Wow! Outstanding! Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #26
Hawaii born? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #67
Go Bernie!!!!!!!!!!! Zira Mar 2016 #3
Thanks! Biaviians Mar 2016 #4
MSM will announce it at 4am Lorien Mar 2016 #5
Hawaii time? Then another 2 hours. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #23
No mention of it on morning cable news. OwlinAZ Mar 2016 #33
YIPPEE! grasswire Mar 2016 #6
I am so sleepy from getting up early to go caucus pugetres Mar 2016 #7
Mahalo OneAngryDemocrat! Lordquinton Mar 2016 #8
Don't forget the time difference. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #11
Hawaii isn't that far away Lordquinton Mar 2016 #12
Go, Bernie...GO!! AzDar Mar 2016 #9
Waiting on the Oahu vote.... blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #10
K&R yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #13
It's been a good day. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #14
Glad to hear it. PoliticalMalcontent Mar 2016 #15
Hat Trick of the best kind Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #16
What country are you from? oberliner Mar 2016 #24
It's a hockey term, too daleo Mar 2016 #69
Sanders suffers major landslides in Hawaii, Washington and Alaska! Divernan Mar 2016 #17
I'm sure the spin will be that Hillary still has commanding lead in delegates, blah blah Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #29
That is what I saw in the NYT karynnj Mar 2016 #44
well shit... I hadn't seen that Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #45
Now THAT is funny!! 7962 Mar 2016 #32
YAY!! silverweb Mar 2016 #18
I love all the colors! gsb54 Mar 2016 #35
Thanks! silverweb Mar 2016 #41
Wow. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2016 #19
This makes 5 consecutive wins... Earth_First Mar 2016 #21
Mahalo, Hawaii for feeling the Bern! cureautismnow Mar 2016 #22
Oh, Delphinus Mar 2016 #28
Yes, indeed. He may be smiling, cureautismnow Mar 2016 #37
I love it but cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #36
Yes, but the celebration of his life at the end of the video is truly uplifting. n/t cureautismnow Mar 2016 #39
It really is! Delphinus Mar 2016 #56
Wonderful! Thanks for the win...and the reminder of a beautiful person. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #61
Good morning! AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #27
Hawaii Demographics ginnyinWI Mar 2016 #30
Whoa! Plucketeer Mar 2016 #34
Fabulous! CountAllVotes Mar 2016 #38
Hope is rising.... yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #40
Bernie! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #42
Nice work Hawaii, Washington and Alaska! harun Mar 2016 #46
Fantastic BUT... Optimism Mar 2016 #49
it won't matter in the end restorefreedom Mar 2016 #50
They may not support the will of the people ... Optimism Mar 2016 #52
certainly the pressure is a good reminder restorefreedom Mar 2016 #53
But I thought Bernie only had support from white men??? Odin2005 Mar 2016 #51
Thank you for being informed Hawaii! SoapBox Mar 2016 #54
As it turns out Washington State voters Turbineguy Mar 2016 #55
This should be an OP. eom Sophiegirl Mar 2016 #57
eh? SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #60
Let me put a little perspective on this. I ran a caucus in Wa the State. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #62
People Hate Clinton billhicks76 Mar 2016 #58
We all better run out and become socialist. Darb Mar 2016 #68
They Love Bernie billhicks76 Mar 2016 #71
Yeah, whatev. Darb Mar 2016 #72
You're Not Worth An Alert Trust Me billhicks76 Mar 2016 #73
Puuuuuuuulease. The bernies Darb Mar 2016 #74
BS billhicks76 Mar 2016 #76
You are living in a bernie induced fantasy land. Darb Mar 2016 #77
I Was Against Clinton Before I Ever Heard Bernies Name billhicks76 Mar 2016 #78
There seems to be an east coast/west coast dimension to the race daleo Mar 2016 #70
Or as the GOP calls it, Kenya dbackjon Mar 2016 #75

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
63. Come fall
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:29 AM
Mar 2016

Will she be so far ahead she will give any resources to those same states that are shoe-ins for the GOP? Whatever she and they mustered for the primaries will likely be abandoned, at least cashwise, no matter how much she has raised. I don't think, in their wildest dreams of trouncing Trump that they will embrace a fifty state strategy even down ticket, which she made clear will be rewarding and enlisting friends- if they have a good chance of winning.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
65. +10000 as is Washington. We have won awards for most degrees per capita in the nation.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:54 AM
Mar 2016

We have also won best read in our state too because we read so many books per capita.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
59. No Candidate In History
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:23 PM
Mar 2016

Has swept 3 states in a row with 70+%. Now it's 4. Clintonites will rationalize to no end. Foolish foolish foolish.

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
64. Can one assume
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:50 AM
Mar 2016

as a starting point that the Hillary favoring polls the establishment will simply not let go or question(the eternal surprise of the clouded mind) tend to be 20 points off except in states that are subject to heavy pressures from the party establishment at the voting precincts?
That simple logic, which has to be confirmed by facts of course, seems to be handy guide to what the future actually holds. The battleground therefore is any state where the party leadership can put its finger on the scales or the media(ads, townhalls too?) can make Hillary competitive.

I'm sorry. I don't get the confidence of the party that Hillary is still the destined one for the fall and that it will all be rosy then too.
Despite a few lessons learned, more hardcore arm-twisting and having the party organization well in the bag I am beginning to question whether she is actually winning the voters at all anywhere, that what she has is soft, partly an institutional gift or favor, or stealth auto-pilot of name glow, scarily offset by an incredible set of hardcore unfavorable, none of which even have to her fault at this point.

After months of this browbeating and jeering and bragging(hereon DU at least) is this all she really has? I am really concerned in a non-troll like fashion for our chances in the fall if the only real positives in the HRC campaign are what the party can do for her. She seems to have lost the actual voters. Now I know we are obsessed with the gaming of the primary, some of the deliberately exploited brokenness of the gameboard. All I know is I would be much more at ease in an electoral sense with a candidate who can sway a genuine majority than the ever crumbling weakness of the frontrunner powerhouse. This not how a fair democratic process should go. I get the legitimacy of organizations and traditional support showing their muscle, but not when it is becoming more and more isolated from the general party and national electorate to "win" at any cost. Are they crazy? The split as I see it is one side is racing to the bottom and the other to the future, with the vastly critical point of the present election at stake.

Holy moly, what did she do to piss off the Alaskans and Hawaiians? Or is Sanders that superior? Or his message?...

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
66. I Agree 100% And...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 04:08 AM
Mar 2016

Stepping outside my own bias for Sanders, do the Clintonites here on DU not realize that most of the population are not activists? Most general election voters only kind of identify with a party and its usually for cultural and not political reasons. The population is generally apolitical. And I'm talking about the ones who still bother to vote. It's scary how many non-voters Trumo has awakened and rounded up. The only thing going for Hillary in that respect is that's she's a woman. I don't think it's enough. It's becoming obvious only Bernie energizes people because it's about his message not his persona. Clintonites better wake up soon.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
2. 2008 favorite son: BHO 75.8% - 23.6% HRC. Looks like Hawai'i has decided who the successor should be
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:50 AM
Mar 2016
turnout for the presidential preference poll was comparable to 2008 when Hawaii-born Barack Obama was running for his first term.


Fascinating.
 

pugetres

(507 posts)
7. I am so sleepy from getting up early to go caucus
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:03 AM
Mar 2016

but I was staying awake for the HI results. Now I'm exhausted but too happy to even consider going to bed anytime soon! Thanks for sharing the news

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
8. Mahalo OneAngryDemocrat!
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:05 AM
Mar 2016

Great news, curious that they didn't call it hours ago, or even, like, you know... Report on it at all whatsoever.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
12. Hawaii isn't that far away
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:23 AM
Mar 2016

And the MSM went all day until just now to report anything at all about it, and while I wouldn't be surprised if the islands all voted at the same time, I'm pretty sure they don't.

 

blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
10. Waiting on the Oahu vote....
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:16 AM
Mar 2016

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard was actively campaigning there, Honolulu, and the largest population (2/3 population of Hawaii). I'm hoping to wake up and see the 70% go up!!!

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
16. Hat Trick of the best kind
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:27 AM
Mar 2016

three successes of the same kind within a limited period, in particular (in soccer) the scoring of three goals in a game by one player or (in cricket) the taking of three wickets by the same bowler with successive balls

Go Bernie....... and thanks to all who made this happen.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
29. I'm sure the spin will be that Hillary still has commanding lead in delegates, blah blah
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:41 AM
Mar 2016

Never mind where all the excitement and momentum is

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
44. That is what I saw in the NYT
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:25 AM
Mar 2016

It is further complicated as Washington State awarded only part of its delegates yesterday. I think it is reasonable to expect the remainder to be proportional to the result, but I do not know the rules. At any rate, a portion of his gain is NOT in the current delegate trackers. Anyone know? Is this just that the other delegates are going to come from the legislative district, county, then state steps? At any rate, most of WA's 101 pledged delegates are not included.

cureautismnow

(1,676 posts)
37. Yes, indeed. He may be smiling,
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:35 AM
Mar 2016

somewhere over the rainbow after Bernie's victory. Beautiful song, beautiful state, beautiful people.

Optimism

(142 posts)
49. Fantastic BUT...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

Even though Bernie wins in a 70-30 rout, and is awarded nine more delegates than Hillary... that lead is completely nullified because the nine "Super" Delegates are already in the bag for Clinton? Huh?!

PLEASE, let's all contact these undemocratic Superdelegates and let them know that if they expect our votes in the future then they need to start REPRESENTING their constituents and pledge their vote for BERNIE SANDERS! Let's definitely let them all know how we feel (and not just in HI, but also in WA, AK, ID, UT ...) !

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
50. it won't matter in the end
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:04 PM
Mar 2016

the supers will support the will of the people. they and the msm are using this as an intimidation tactic to depress turnout.

thankfully, it does not seem to be working!

Optimism

(142 posts)
52. They may not support the will of the people ...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

If they don't HEAR FROM US! They've now heard our votes, so if they haven't publicly announced their commitment has switched to Bernie THIS WEEK, well I feel we need to constantly remind them that they're supposedly put in office to REPRESENT their constituents! The momentum and media narrative could REALLY change this week if the Superdelegates start peeling off from the Clinton ship. Contact your Reps peeps! (Easter Peeps!!)

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
53. certainly the pressure is a good reminder
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:15 PM
Mar 2016

ordinarily i don't think they would even think of it, but they are so determined to install clinton that an uproar and a reminder that many would be voted out can't hurt

Turbineguy

(37,295 posts)
55. As it turns out Washington State voters
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:41 PM
Mar 2016

may not have picked Sanders. The DNC has a special system in place to protect themselves from the desires of the voters. How republican of them.

ATTENTION WA VOTERS & ELECTED DELEGATES: Many people have been asking why only 31 delegates out of 101 in the state of Washington have been distributed, of which Bernie got 23 and Hillary got 8. Here is the thing: WA state has 3-level caucus system before we are heading to the National Convention in July. What we had today was Precinct Caucuses - delegates were selected among the people proportional to the popular votes. The NEXT level would be Legislative District Caucuses and County Conventions, taking place on Apr 17th and May 1st respectively. Our Bernie delegates and alternates MUST show up at the LD caucuses to represent; if we did not show up, the delegates would be re-distributed to the opponent's side. More pledged delegates will be distributed according to the LD caucus on Apr 17th! The THIRD level would be Congressional District (CD) Caucuses, during which the remaining number of delegates will be distributed proportionally to the caucus. To summarize: 1. Only 31 delegates were distributed today because there are 2 more upper caucuses taking place in WA. Same format, higher levels. 2. Those who were elected to be Bernie's delegates: on Sunday Apr 17th, PLEASE show up at the LD Caucuses with DELEGATE CARDS you received today to continue this journey! We CANNOT afford no-shows! LARGE TURNOUT = LARGE WIN. The same applies to CD Caucuses coming in May 21st (Saturday). 3. If you were elected delegate and did NOT receive a delegate card, PLEASE contact your caucus location and precinct captain to ask for your card.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
62. Let me put a little perspective on this. I ran a caucus in Wa the State.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:11 AM
Mar 2016

Our results was almost exactly the same as the state's results of 77% Sanders and 23% Clinton. When we asked asked for volunteers to be the delegates to the next level, the Sanders side had twice as many people volunteer as we had delegate positions for. So half of them will go as alternates. These people were enthusiastic. The Clinton side had a hard time getting anyone to volunteer to be a delegate for them. I believe that Sanders will be well represented at the WA State convention.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
68. We all better run out and become socialist.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:50 AM
Mar 2016

That's the ticket. Cause Americans love socialists.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
72. Yeah, whatev.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:17 AM
Mar 2016

He was socialist until last summer. Keep telling yourself that because americans love a "democratic" socialist.

You guys can run the most ridiculous anti-Hillary smack but when someone tells the truth about Bernie, you alert. He's a Socialist.

Now go alert on me.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
74. Puuuuuuuulease. The bernies
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:36 PM
Mar 2016

alert on me all day every day. Us Clinton supporters are about as scared of the bernies as we are of bunnies.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
76. BS
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:09 PM
Mar 2016

I have seen Clintonites alert way more. It's not even close. They alert on any little thing. They cry sexism for just disagreeing with Hillary. And then they patiently wait till they finally get a jury stacked in their favor. You are living on a different planet and obviously haven't been paying attention here long.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
77. You are living in a bernie induced fantasy land.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:00 AM
Mar 2016

If you guys get alerted on it is because you are spewing ridiculous Hillary attacks that are nearly beneath a teabagger. The Clinton Foundation is a money laundering racket and influence pedaling apparatus for profit? You guys are out there baby, out there.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
78. I Was Against Clinton Before I Ever Heard Bernies Name
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:30 AM
Mar 2016

And it's because I was very familiar with her and Bill's intimate ties to Bush Sr and his kids since 1981. This has not been popularized in the media. Bill was hand selected by Bush Sr to run in 92 once it became apparent Perot wanted to be a spoiler. This alone is enough for me to never trust them. Yes she paraded photos of Obama in a turban making him out to be a radical Muslim in 2008 but that's just dirty politicking and a narcissistic desire to win above all else. What's scarier is selling your soul to the Bush Family Crime Syndicate decades ago. No. I think I'll take new blood. An honest, humble guy who is running on the behalf of helping the middle class and it's obvious he can be trusted. To me it's practically a crime not to support him especially now that electability can't be used as a sorry excuse not to anymore. The more people get to know him the more they like him. Hillarys negative ratings are too high regardless of her popular votes.

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