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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:51 PM Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders: 'I think we know who ISIS is'

Source: CNN

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders says the United States needs to toughen its surveillance to stop Brussels-style ISIS attacks, adding that "we know who ISIS is."

"It goes without saying that when you have attacks that take place, when 30 people get killed in Brussels, something went wrong ... We have got to improve our efforts to make sure it does not happen again," he told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" Sunday when pressed for specifics.

Sanders credited President Barack Obama for his handling of the fight against ISIS, saying that the terrorist organization is "on the defensive. They are retreating."

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"I think we know who ISIS is. We know those people who are planning attacks against our European allies and against ourselves," he said.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/27/politics/bernie-sanders-isis-surveillance/



Well, there goes the talking point that Bernie would suddenly roll back efforts to fight terrorism if elected President.
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Bernie Sanders: 'I think we know who ISIS is' (Original Post) TomCADem Mar 2016 OP
So he's a warmonger now right? kjones Mar 2016 #1
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was dragged out of bed by local cops.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #2
This would not happen in Brussels 6chars Mar 2016 #3
Wow, does Khalid EVER get any sleep? Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #4
-1000 olddad56 Mar 2016 #5
Bernie will end The War Against Terror (TWAT) (tm), not the war against terrorists. bemildred Mar 2016 #6
So he'll sub one TWAT for another TWAT? How revolutionary. kjones Mar 2016 #9
And he's gaining more voters everyday! Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #12
ISIS is Sunni Wahabi head choppers supported by Saudi Arabia and Turkey, highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #7
That's going to cut into some of the free shit he planned on giving away liberal N proud Mar 2016 #8
Social Security isn't free stuff GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #10
Are you saying BS would cut Social Security to pay for war? liberal N proud Mar 2016 #11
All politicians sound like morons when they talk about terrorism scioto99 Apr 2016 #13
Obama explains in depth, is one of his problems with those used to 10 sec sound bites uppityperson Apr 2016 #14
And the more words anyone says - the more nuanced they try to be - scioto99 Apr 2016 #15
He has said that at other times. He doesn't have to say it every time, or does he? JudyM Apr 2016 #16
"if people died, obviously something went wrong. We have to make sure it doesn't happen again." scioto99 Apr 2016 #17
He is, as I read that, implying that there was an intelligence failure. He is a root cause analysis JudyM Apr 2016 #18
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
2. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was dragged out of bed by local cops....
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:17 AM
Mar 2016


It doesn't take a multi-trillion dollar toy from the Pentagon or regime change or carpet bombing to deal with this.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. Bernie will end The War Against Terror (TWAT) (tm), not the war against terrorists.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:18 AM
Mar 2016

Which was the right approach all along, but the liberal interventionists wanted regime change. Well, they go it.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
9. So he'll sub one TWAT for another TWAT? How revolutionary.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:55 AM
Mar 2016

...But even that doesn't sound right, because he's turned about and
hitched himself to what Obama is currently doing. So, does that
mean Obama has already made the changes and Bernie would simply
be in the position of continuing them, or does it mean that Bernie has
changed his stance to appear less abrasive towards Obama in order
to hopefully gain some extra votes?

 

highoverheadspace

(307 posts)
7. ISIS is Sunni Wahabi head choppers supported by Saudi Arabia and Turkey,
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:59 AM
Mar 2016

two US allies. That much has become obvious. The unbelievable hypocrisy of the US State Department covering up for and supporting these terrorism export states while crying crocodile tears over innocent people killed by them in Europe is absolutely astounding. We know what the head of the hydra is, we just refuse to acknowledge it because we are in bed with those despots. There is a highly sophisticated money trail that can easily be traced "if " the US government really wanted to do so.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
8. That's going to cut into some of the free shit he planned on giving away
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:12 AM
Mar 2016

Either that or he will get the rich to pay for that too.



 

scioto99

(71 posts)
13. All politicians sound like morons when they talk about terrorism
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

How about this for an honest answer:

"There are people all over the world that want to mass-murder American citizens simply because we are American citizens. That's their ideology. They have the weapons, the technology, the support networks, and a fanatical eagerness to die in their murderous cause. We can't stop them all. We are a nation of laws, and within the law we'll do our best, but some of us will die. We can add more laws, more surveillance, more strip searches, tighter borders, fewer immigrants, deportation of religious leaders we don't like, silencing Twitter and the Internet, blah blah blah, but that will also decrease our freedoms, so a balance must be struck. There is no answer. There is no guarantee of safety. And when Americans are killed by the next mass-murdering terrorist, it will not necessarily be because "obviously something went wrong" - it will be because perfect safety can never be attained and is an unreasonable goal."

Instead he gives us, "if people died, obviously something went wrong. We have to make sure it doesn't happen again."

It's pablum. It's stupid.

And I'm not just panning Bernie - they all talk like that. It's expected of a politician. If they told the truth they'd look "weak" or something.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
14. Obama explains in depth, is one of his problems with those used to 10 sec sound bites
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:21 PM
Apr 2016

They have a difficult time following him and say he's talking down to them.

 

scioto99

(71 posts)
15. And the more words anyone says - the more nuanced they try to be -
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:29 PM
Apr 2016

- the more the opposition seizes on one piece and spins it to make the speaker look bad.

Just look at the various factions on DU slinging ridiculous accusations at each other's candidates.

So it's safest to just say, "Terrorism bad! Me hate terrorism! Me gonna stop terrorism! Me good leader! Vote ME!"

 

scioto99

(71 posts)
17. "if people died, obviously something went wrong. We have to make sure it doesn't happen again."
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:20 PM
Apr 2016

That's what he said this time.

He is stating that terrorism is stoppable. That if it happens, there was a fixable mistake that led to it. And that if elected, he will provide the perfect magical solution to ensure it doesn't happen again. He is an all-powerful leader who can do.... something or other.... to make sure that no armed warrior of God will ever again walk into a California office party and kill fifteen people in America. What that 'something or other' is, he doesn't say. But surely it will be brilliant and foolproof.

I wish him luck. But I think he's full of crap.

JudyM

(29,236 posts)
18. He is, as I read that, implying that there was an intelligence failure. He is a root cause analysis
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:31 PM
Apr 2016

type thinker. That's a good thing because he will focus on improvements. He's not pie in the sky despite what some would have us believe. He is extremely practical. So IMO what he said only deserves criticism if you're looking to criticize.

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