Sanders bumped off D.C. ballot
Source: Politico
As a result of a registration error committed by the District of Columbia Democratic Party, Sen. Bernie Sanders won't appear on the Washington D.C. ballot.
The Vermont senator's name won't appear on the ballot because the party submitted the requisite paperwork one day too late, according to NBC's Washington affiliate, News4.
Both the Sanders' campaign and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton's campaign paid the $2,500 fee to appear on the June 14 Democratic primary ballot on time but the district's Democratic Party failed to inform the Washington D.C. Board of Elections until March 17, one day after the deadline.
There are still avenues for Sanders to make the ballot -- Anita Bonds, the chairwoman of the Democratic Party in D.C., told News4 that the problem could be resolved via an emergency vote of the D.C. City Council.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernie-sanders-district-columbia-ballot-221398
I smell a rat
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)we are not a democracy.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)My grade school teacher taught us to spell it: A Rat In The House May Eat The Ice Cream. It seams soooo fitting given all the ice cream that's up for grabs and all those rats salivating over it.
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)I'll have the spam without so much rat in it
cactusfractal
(573 posts)One slice of strawberry tart without so much rat in it later...
Appalling!
elleng
(137,262 posts)fairly typical in DC, likely to be remedied easily.
Chewed over here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511611471
jeff47
(26,549 posts)elleng
(137,262 posts)that Sanders campaign submitted some docs 30 or so minutes late.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The party was then supposed to submit the candidates to the DC board of elections.
Some stories say Clinton's was submitted on time, Sanders was submitted late.
Now there's a story claiming both candidates were submitted late, but only Sanders was challenged.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)while both candidates (apparently) submitted their docs on time to the party, the party didn't deliver the docs on time. But only Sanders is challenged. There is some confusion in the news stories out there now due to the two deadlines. Sanders' campaign didn't screw anything up though, from what I can read.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)the "stories"?
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Nice one
elleng
(137,262 posts)A lot was posted and 'announced.'
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)It's amazing that it's becoming equally directed at democrats...BY DEMOCRATS. Internecine warfare happens when corruption and sell-outs become too much for average people to bear. Hillary is 100% the "Let Them Eat Cake" candidate.
elleng
(137,262 posts)I found what I'd seen and referred to:
'Confusion appeared to reign late Wednesday over just what happened and whether it could be fixed.
D.C. Democratic Party Chairwoman Anita Bonds told The Washington Times that the partys primary plan, which included the paperwork for all candidates, was submitted by 7 p.m. on the 16th. The D.C. Board of Elections offices closes at 4:45 p.m.'
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/30/bernie-sanders-left-dc-primary-ballot-after-democr/
As a former DC resident for 20+ years, I'm all too familiar with bureaucratic 'snafus' like this; they occur in many facets of life and business in DC, so I'm not surprised, but I am dismayed. I expect this will be corrected.
DebbieCDC
(2,546 posts)I saw it time and time and time again. The DC bureaucracy is eff'ed to the max.
elleng
(137,262 posts)(In southern MD now.)
Yes, eff'ed to the max.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)elleng
(137,262 posts)THIS is what I read:
'Confusion appeared to reign late Wednesday over just what happened and whether it could be fixed.
D.C. Democratic Party Chairwoman Anita Bonds told The Washington Times that the partys primary plan, which included the paperwork for all candidates, was submitted by 7 p.m. on the 16th. The D.C. Board of Elections offices closes at 4:45 p.m.'
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/30/bernie-sanders-left-dc-primary-ballot-after-democr/
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)I hate bureaucracy myself, so when I have to deal with it I tend to over-prepare so as not to have to put up with snafus. In this case that might as simple as a follow-up call every day to make sure the paperwork has been submitted on time. If you see bogeymen behind every problem then maybe the problem actually lies with you.
DamnYankeeInHouston
(1,365 posts)The Democratic Party turned the paperwork in late for both candidates. Only Bernie's paperwork was challenged. There has been no reason given. It shows the Democratic Party to be both inept and working for one candidate.
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)You post your "call every day" bullshit and then demand the other poster read past the headline?
Both campaigns were submitted to the DC Board of Elections by the DC Democratic party on the same day. And that day was one day late.
But the Clinton campaign was organized enough to get a false submission date entered on their form!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511619539
Allegations are not facts, and I have better things to do than respond to rude, aggressive people. It is plain you are looking for a fight rather than a discussion, but you will have to look elsewhere.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)It will be lots of fun linking to this when you get angry at Republicans committing election fraud.
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)Frankly I rarely found your posts worth reading in the past and I'm sure you feel the same about mine, so I'm not going to bother doing so from now on.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)elleng
(137,262 posts)I lived there for 20 years, and am very aware.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Everytime it's just a coincidence!
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)You can bet your bippy they screwed up. But then, that was to be expected, wasn't it?
And if it happened to Clinton and not Sanders, you'd be screaming holy hell!
dchill
(40,902 posts)Raster
(20,999 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,358 posts)your lack of seriousness on this site dedicated to political discussion.
You must think it make you sound clever.
In fact it has the opposite effect.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)And your candidate seems happy about it. Shame.
CrispyQ
(38,723 posts)But the level of incompetence we've seen in the democratic party's process this election is staggering & it leaves one questioning the democratic process. Nothing squashes enthusiasm like thinking your vote doesn't count. I haven't decided if dem leadership thinks they can win without the left or if they are just so damned confident we will fall in line like we always have.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)conspiracies and when someone suggests such, they stick fingers in ears, and close eyes and say "Clinton is honest, Clinton is honest."
All of the shenanigans have been against Sanders. Some say coincidence and, like you others say bullshit, it's a conspiracy to keep a Progressive out of the WH. Those with money think they are entitled to get their way and sadly some, so-called, Democrats seem to believe them.
Politics is all about conspiracies. Think Tanks are really Conspiracy Tanks. Karl Rove makes a living conspiring and it wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't on loan from the Bush Crime Family to help friend Clinton out.
PFunk1
(185 posts)Crap like this wont help matters any.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Of course, it doesn't matter than this isn't Clinton or her campaign's fault. You need to have your outrage and it doesn't matter what the facts are.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)It was the DNC's fault, and ooops...they support Clinton. Big woopsie!
And again, if this happened to Clinton, do you really think you Hill supporters wouldn't be going apeshit over this?
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)I don't want her to win. Principles, man.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Well, let's put it this way ... the poster I replied to said:
And they wonder why Sander's folks wont vote for Clinton if she wins the GE.
Either the poster is blaming Clinton for it and taking it out on her because of it, even though she had nothing to do with it ... or ... the poster is taking it out on Clinton even though they know she doesn't have anything to do with it, like the way the Bush administration invaded a country even though they had nothing to do with the terrorism that was used as an excuse, to invade the country. Neither option is really a good one, is it?
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)And this is the kind of shit they pull to make certain she is the favorite.
It is and isn't Hillary's fault. She knows what Debbie is doing. She is not blind to the favoritism.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)It sounds like it was a royal screw-up by the DC Democratic Party. And there are perpetually outraged Sanders supporters that now have another reason to take it out on Hillary, even though she apparently didn't have anything to do with it either.
larrysanders
(22 posts)It's a BIG screwup.
NON-constructive criticism doesn't help Dems in the long run.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Especially when 67% say she's a liar
Response to onecaliberal (Reply #105)
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PFunk1
(185 posts)But with that correction my original post still stands
stopbush
(24,633 posts)There's no upside for her campaign to screw around with something like this.
A stupid mistake by the D Dem Party that will be fixed before the ink is dry.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)The simplest explanation is usually correct.
And with the history of this campaign and that candidate, it's pretty simple.
stopbush
(24,633 posts)for campaign donation irregularities, and that they didn't bother building a ground game in many of the statES they've lost, and the fact that they ended up losing half the states they predicted they'd win, Occam's Razor points to the gross incompetence of the Sanders campaign as being the likely reason they missed the ballot in DC.
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)'Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.'
As I've gotten older I've found that speculating about people's motivations is a complete waste of time in most cases, for the same reason that people jumping to conclusions about why you or I might do something are usually incorrect. Instead I focus on the origin of the problem and whether and how it could be corrected, as well as developing a strategy to ensure it doesn't recur in the future. It is not a good use of my time, nor yours, to do work on imagining hypothetical motivations that can never be tested or proved.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Anything that goes wrong for Bernie must be a Clintonian Conspiracy!!!
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Seriously do you live in a bubble? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously. A complaint was made against Sanders and not Clinton. Is this the rethuglicans fault again? You have lost every shred of credibility you hoped you ever had.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Yes ... It's commonly called, the real world.
I really don't care if people that default to some, and any, conspiracy take me seriously, or not.
I don't know; but, that wasn't my question ... was it?
Again, I will have no problem sleeping tonight.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)DWS and party filed paperwork late and someone complained about Sanders and not Clinton. You don't know if it was a republican? Really? In DC? There are no republican residents for the most part and only someone with inside knowledge could do this as evident by a 1-0 vote. It only took one complaint as Clinton campaign surely knew. 20 delegates at stake. You must think the tooth fairy did this. You may not care about your credibility and that is good because you have none.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)No, she didn't. DWS had nothing to do with this.
You talk about "credibility" and don't know the basics of how local Parties work and that lead you to ignorant outrage.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:41 PM - Edit history (1)
Especially in DC during a heated election. Just like Karl Rove didn't coordinate in state house elections because he ran a national organization.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)But then again the Bush family is close intimate friends with the Clintons. The opposition is just a charade for the commoners.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)We're getting our full tinfoil on!
Shhh ... Illuminati!!!
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)I thought you were at least slightly informed. I guess it's your credibility problem getting to you. The Clintons became close with the Bush family in '81. That's a fact. And beyond DC cocktail parties. Any informed democrat knows this. IranContra was pivotal.
I watched every one of those IranContra hearings in 1987. Did you? I spoke with congressman on that committee who told me what happened when they went to executive session behind closed doors. You have no idea what you're talking about. I also was raised in an elitist republican family in NY and Maine and I assure you these are not fairy tales. Alliances with the Clintons were made in 1981 after he ran for governor again. I can find photos for you since you obviously can't do your own homework. An easy one for you is the photo at Bush's PRIVATE retreat in Maine in '83 sitting Bill, Bush Sr and the racist George Wallace. Clinton pretended to barely know Bush in 92. He was "allowed" to be the nominee after Perot decided to be a spoiler in 92. It's not a surprise that after 2000 Bush Sr referred to him and Hillary as honorary members of the Bush family. Keep spreading naivite. You are for real right?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)and can spin all sorts of connections.
But I guess you are slightly better ... none of your connections (thus far) involve reptilians or chem-trails.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)So typical. Invoking the racist, sexist xenophobic Alex Jones when you can't respond to facts? That's like a child. That's what sock-puppets or people with no argument do. No we aren't talking about Alex Jones. What's next calling anyone who disagrees with you a Ron Paul supporter? What's nests comparing us all to Bill Cosby? Conspiracy? So pathetic. You do know tens of thousands of people are locked up in federal prison on conspiracy charges alone right? My guess is you don't care one bit and are quite alright with the drug war destroying families and eroding our rights. I think it's you who needs to take off the tin foil hat and get out of your moms basement.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)stonecutter357
(12,788 posts)Omaha Steve
(103,980 posts)There are still avenues for Sanders to make the ballot -- Anita Bonds, the chairwoman of the Democratic Party in D.C., told News4 that the problem could be resolved via an emergency vote of the D.C. City Council.
In a statement, the Sanders campaign said it expected to get on the ballot.
elleng
(137,262 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)This one will be resolved and Bernie will appear on the ballot.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)are we not supposed to notice the pattern?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)How bout the erroneous delegate counts in IA that all favored Clinton? Must've just been an honest mistake!!!
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)How 'bout your sane, logical explanation for only Sanders getting left off the DC ballot?
Mistakes are random. When these problems all go one way, they aren't random.
AllyCat
(17,321 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Sorry but facts ruin your petty analysis. Just like they always did to Bush.
larrysanders
(22 posts)bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)stonecutter357
(12,788 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,386 posts)And the term "theory" is also added. Can't even accept the possibility of any authoritarian entity pulling one over on you? Why is this so difficult to comprehend?
Its as if you refuse to believe the Dictionary. News Flash: Its all true! There is actually a term that defines when two or more people conspire together for power or money or some other advantage over others. Furthermore, there are examples in US historical fact when conspiracies happened!
Project MKUltra
Operation Northwoods
Operation Mockingbird
COINTELPRO
and others.
Bush Sr. and the false flag of babies dying on the floor of hospitals in Kuwait to start the first Gulf War.
NSA threatening service providers to allow them to eavesdrop unconstitutionally.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Corruption wherever Bernie doesn't do particularly well in a state primary, corruption at the ballot box, corruption whenever the media does a story about Bernie that isn't worshipping enough.
And corruption in the DC situation. Ah, the humanity!
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Don't win an election? That's not the party apparatus. Erroneous delegate counts get entered in IA that just happen to favor Clinton? DC Party happens to file late? Those are the party apparatus.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Check the thread I just posted on the Primaries forum (WP: Bernie will be on the ballot).
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I'm not going to hold my breath until Sanders is back on the ticket.
And no I don't blame Hillary for this. I blame Debbie.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Lo and behold, it was the same candidate who's been getting screwed by state party officials in one primary and caucus after another, starting with Iowa, the same candidate that has been shafted by the DNC's debate schedule, who's been spoken about poorly by a DNC official who is supposed to be neutral, etc.
But no one is supposed to put two and two together and see a pattern, just as no one was supposed to do that with media until the Tyndall Report did it.
Anyone who countenances this corruption in the primary process, regardless of whom they support, should never again complain about stolen elections--and should be deeply ashamed of themselves.
Once again, the Des Moines Register's editorial board, which had endorsed Hillary, nailed it:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2016/02/03/editorial-something-smells-democratic-party/79777580/
Fsck corrupting any part of the process, no matter wich candidate it benefits or harms; and fsck anyone who doesn't condemn it, no matter whose candidate it benefits or harms. If you are among those who fail to condemn this or, worse, who deny it's been happened, please take this paragraph very personally.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Ah, the humanity!
Two candidates in the running and left one off--and lo and behold, that one was not Hillary. Lo and behold, it was the same candidate who's been getting screwed by state party officials in one primary and caucus after another, starting with Iowa, the same candidate that has been shafted by the DNC's debate schedule, who's been spoken about poorly by a DNC official who is supposed to be neutral, etc.
But no one is supposed to put two and two together and see a pattern, just as no one was supposed to do that with media until the Tyndall Report did it.
Anyone who countenances this corruption in the primary process, regardless of whom they support, should never again complain about stolen elections--and should be deeply ashamed of themselves.
Once again, the Des Moines Register's editorial board, which had endorsed Hillary, nailed it:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2016/02/03/editorial-something-smells-democratic-party/79777580/
Fsck corrupting any part of the process, no matter wich candidate it benefits or harms; and fsck anyone who doesn't condemn it, no matter whose candidate it benefits or harms. If you are among those who fail to condemn this or, worse, who deny it's been happened, please take this paragraph very personally.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Sorry facts get in your way. Go cry to the Bush family as they understand your pain.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Then I read OS's post...
Let's hope.
alittlelark
(18,933 posts)Funny thing is that The You Tube, therefore DU version has had an error message for over 2 hours. If you click the link you MAY get audio....
It is documenting Clinton operatives in top positions in the Sanders campaign.... it is deeply disturbing
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)alittlelark
(18,933 posts)Funny that - I stream YouTube regularly and have only seen that message twice before, it is always fine the next time I click on it.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)alittlelark
(18,933 posts)I sent it out earlier to ppl and it was fine - tried many times since and I get an error message.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)There's also the possibility of spyware/adware or malware in general interfering with your internet...eating up your bandwidth.
alittlelark
(18,933 posts)...just cannot access the Mass. link. Cute kitties are fine.
The YouTube vid is still blocked for me.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)alittlelark
(18,933 posts)at 8:44 MST.
Eric J in MN
(35,621 posts)This is sabotage by the DC Democratic Party.
ananda
(31,043 posts)...
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)More and more blatant shit. Not too surprising really when you look at the DNC and all the rest of the party...
bvf
(6,604 posts)stopbush
(24,633 posts)I assume Sanders will appear on the ballot, but what a black eye for the DC Dem party.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)Won't stand.
Baitball Blogger
(48,683 posts)ripcord
(5,553 posts)no_hypocrisy
(49,466 posts)Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)Article says:
Both the Sanders' campaign and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton's campaign paid the $2,500 fee to appear on the June 14 Democratic primary ballot on time but the district's Democratic Party failed to inform the Washington D.C. Board of Elections until March 17, one day after the deadline. --from the OP
If both paid the fee, and both were submitted a day after the deadline, HOW did Clinton get ON the ballot?
The article wording is a little unclear. It appears to say that BOTH were late. If true, WHY is only Clinton on the ballot? Does it work, being late and being a Clinton? You just get presumed to be a candidate for whatever? They put Clinton on the ballot, forgiving her highness for her lateness, and just tossed that other piece of paper into the trash on the way to a power lunch?
It's probably that they WEREN'T late with hers, ONLY with his.
The alleged Democratic Party did NOT fail to inform them that Clinton was on the ballot, apparently. So what did they do with Sanders' papers? Dog ate them on the way to the Board of Elections, or, in too big of a hurry to that donor lunch? WHY, if they both paid on time, did ONLY ONE of them get on the ballot? WHY was only THAT one LATE?
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Probably a Clinton supporter. AFAIK, there is nothing to stop anyone from legally challenging the presence of Clinton's name on the ballot either.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)I live in No VA and have been listening to this all morning on the local news. An unnamed "activist" challenged Sanders. Both candidates filed on time. Both names were forwarded late. This "activist" issued the legal challenge against Bernie? Clinton could technically be challenged as well.
IIRC, this happened on the day the Metro was shut down for over 24 hours in an unprecedented move for safety inspections. It caused a commuting nightmare. Many people telecommuted or simply took the day off. Sloppy work, no doubt, but not at all a surprise from what I know of the DC bureaucracy.
This will be fixed.
klook
(12,921 posts)Safe as Milk
(51 posts)It took the DC Dems 9 months to notify the DNC, and even that was a day after the deadline. So what was the problem with the DC Dem Committee on March 17. Was there only one phone in the office and the call was made at 4:59pm so there wasn't time to mention that the Sanders campaign also paid for the registration?
This decision won't stand. It might stand if Sanders were a local fringe candidate. But he's tied nationally with Clinton. He's big time. And he's being subjected to high school shenanigans. It's embarrassing to Democratic voters in DC. Their local party is NOT serving them well.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Went through similar bullshit with Disaster Debbies minions in Florida, when our county DEC's conveniently "forgot" to form a Federal PAC to help fund our campaign.
We explained other ways they could support us without the PAC, and no, they had to "check on it".
After we beat their hand picked candidate by 10 points in the primary. Debbie Disaster went on to endorse her Republican "friend".
There's rats alright. Lots of them.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)pnwmom
(109,650 posts)in an election in June that Hillary will carry in a landslide?
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)You may have it still...they do not.
pnwmom
(109,650 posts)filed Hillary's stuff weeks ago and only filed Bernie's at the last minute -- not file them both at the same time, only challenge Bernie, and wait for Bernie's people to kick up a storm of righteous indignation.
The head of the Dems there says their standard procedure is to process the paperwork on the last day and to file it on the next day. This time someone crawled up out of some hole and challenged Bernie but not Hillary.
It's obviously unfair and the DC Chair says it will be fixed.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)There were no complaints about Clinton. Bernie had one and that was enough to keep him off ballot where there are 20 delegates at stake. DWS and the party filed the paperwork knowing this discrepancy. Your faith in coincidance amazes me. Too bad you're not a judge...with 500,000 people in prison over the past decade on conspiracy charges you're attitude would've surely helped.
pnwmom
(109,650 posts)I never said there were any complaints about Clinton. I said:
filed Hillary's stuff weeks ago and only filed Bernie's at the last minute -- not file them both at the same time, only challenge Bernie, and wait for Bernie's people to kick up a storm of righteous indignation.
The head of the Dems there says their standard procedure is to process the paperwork on the last day and to file it on the next day. This time someone crawled up out of some hole and challenged Bernie but not Hillary.
It's obviously unfair and the DC Chair says it will be fixed.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)pnwmom
(109,650 posts)Here is an article about Bernie's "miracle path" by a much more objective observer.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/its-really-hard-to-get-bernie-sanders-988-more-delegates/
To reach a pledged delegate majority, Sanders will have to win most of the delegates from those big states. A major loss in any of them could be fatal to his chances. He could afford to lose one or two of them narrowly, but then hed need to make up ground elsewhere hed probably have to win California by double digits, for example.
Sanders will also need to gain ground on Clinton in a series of medium-sized states such as Wisconsin, Indiana, Kentucky and New Mexico. Demographics suggest that these states could be close, but close wont be enough for Sanders. Hell need to win several of them easily.
None of this is all that likely. Frankly, none of it is at all likely. If the remaining states vote based on the same demographic patterns established by the previous ones, Clinton will probably gain further ground on Sanders. If they vote as state-by-state polling suggests they will, Clinton could roughly double her current advantage over Sanders and wind up winning the nomination by 400 to 500 pledged delegates.
But things can change, and polls can be wrong and so its worth doing the math to see what winning 988 more delegates would look like for Sanders. Call it a path-of-least-implausibility. If you think Sanders can meet or exceed these targets, then you can say with a straight face that you think hell win the nomination. If you think theyre too good to be true, then you cant. Heres the Bernie-miracle path I came up with:
SNIP
RichVRichV
(885 posts)If Hillary won 70% of the vote in DC and got 14 delegates vs Bernie's 6 delegates. That's a net of 8 delegates for Hillary.
If Bernie weren't on the ballot at all, that's 20 delegates to Hillary verses 0 for Bernie. That's a net of 20 delegates for Hillary.
Bernie winning just 30% of the vote would be a 12 delegate swing versus him not being on the ballot at all. If this race tightens up (and Bernie takes a slight lead after June 7th) that could be the deciding factor in the outcome.
Whether Bernie closes the gap or Hillary expands her lead, every Democrat should have the right to have their vote counted.
Hotler
(12,454 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)Why was Clinton the only one that the Party 'informed' the board of elections about?
What was the timeline?
This is shady as shit.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Remember that old line that goes something like, "It's easier to apologize afterwards than ask permission ahead of time"? Some overly zealous and deceitful people live by it.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)dubyadiprecession
(6,549 posts)bounce.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)I don't like technicalities in ballot access stuff.
That's Theresa LaPore/Kathryn Harris crap.
zentrum
(9,866 posts)Really, the party should be ashamed.
OnlinePoker
(5,863 posts)If Sanders isn't on the ballot (especially if things tighten up before then), then those delegates should not be included in Clinton's count.
pnwmom
(109,650 posts)then he'll be on the ballot.
This was a stupid screw-up but it will be easily fixed.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Americas election & voting system is way more complicated then it has to be.
BlandGrenade
(29 posts)Then "SHIT HAPPENS" IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE FUCKING RESPONSE. If she wins the nominations, SHE WILL INDEED have to answer for these "anomalies", either to those of us now feeling the Bern, or in november to the entire nation in a concession speech TO DONALD TRUMP.
Skittles
(160,721 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)Getty
Sen. Bernie Sanders is likely to be on the D.C. presidential ballot despite a registration error by the local Democratic Party, CNN reports.
Anita Bonds, chairwoman of the Washington, D.C. Democratic Party told CNN she was confident he would appear on the primary ballot despite a challenge filed with the citys Board of Elections.
Bernie will be on the ballot, she told CNN.
The D.C. Democratic Party was required to file to the D.C. Board of Elections by March 16 but submitted the registration paperwork for Sanders a day late, and a challenge was filed against him.
Bonds said the partys deadline is a few hours after the Board of Elections closes, so the staff usually delivers the filings the next day, which has been the standard in the past, but this time, someone challenged Sanders.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/274752-dc-party-chair-sanders-will-appear-on-ballot
Hmmmmm....
TexasBushwhacker
(20,777 posts)First all the coin flips go in favor of Clinton in Iowa.
Long lines in NV.
Bill Clinton showing up at a polling place in MA.
Then the AZ fiasco.
Now this.
I'm probably forgetting something.
I'm not saying HRC had anything personally to do with it, but I wouldn't put it past her minions.
Ford_Prefect
(8,230 posts)I guess we'll see if that's enough to solve the problem.
As far as the degree of frequency of this and other "errors" and whether Hillary knew about it all, I find it hard to believe she does not know of it given her well documented obsession with details and control. As to whether she planned this kind of thing I believe she would have delegated most if not all of this activity to others in the campaign or the DNC so as to maintain a degree of Plausible Deniability, and to be able to keep her focus on the presentation of herself as candidate.
I also believe there is more than enough evidence which points to Debbie Wasserman Schultz and David Brock as both are well known for slimy underhanded politics. This view gives less than fair credit to the local and state level Democrats who view themselves as gate keepers against any aspirations of progressive Democrats. I have personally seen this last group in action in NH, WA, and NC.
They see progressives as a threat to the party, as dreamers who have no sense of compromise or gravitas, as the demons who undid the party in 1968. They also never saw a crooked voting machine or ballot count server, or a tainted ballot, or a party system at odds with everyday people. They remind me of those people who looked down their noses at the Peace movement as misguided and unpatriotic. Who sat safely in their suburban living rooms while the rest of us marched at Selma, and the Pentagon, and the Capitol, and The White House. They do not know what it takes to really change things and are not afraid to make sure the rest of you do not find out.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,862 posts)Ms Bonds is a superdelegate currently committed to Clinton. Hopefully she can still do her duty for the Democratic Party.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)For crying out loud!!!
treestar
(82,383 posts)Even though if Hillary were really going to cheat, there'd be much better places to do it in than a place she is likely to win in a landslide.
Just sound like a bureaucratic snafu. Those happen.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Clinton supporter complained...Bernies did not...thats why shes on and hes not when DWS filed late.
mishi48.59
(15 posts)Then someone is seriously incompetent
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)nothing in politics happens by accident, especially when everyone's standing around acting like it was an accident
Track down that "DC voter" who objected to Sanders' ballot status and not HRC's and you'll have the source. I'd wager 20-1 that said objector is a HRC partisan and had inside knowledge that the filing was a day late.
WhiteTara
(30,262 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Beartracks
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tartan2
(314 posts)NOW! I'm calling Anita Bonds now.
Zira
(1,054 posts)alittlelark
(18,933 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)kadaholo
(304 posts)This is UNBELIEVABLE! After reading an article at Anonymous on the antics in Arizona, I noticed a comment attached to the article that stated there are widespread reports of voter registration manipulation in PA and NY.
See article: Anonymous Investigate Arizona Election Fraud, Sanders Was Hacked
Link: http://www.anonews.co/anonymous-sanders-hack/
Since I live in PA and am a Bernie supporter, I decided to confirm my registration immediately.
I checked the VotesPA website and, sure enough, voter registration information on both my husband and me is not available!!! We have been registered Democrats and voting at this location since 1987 and 1994 respectively.
This is the message that came up for both of us: "No Voter Registration information could be found for the data provided. Either search again using different data or contact your County Voter Registration Office."
Calling tomorrow and surprise (not), we are Bernie supporters!!! INCREDIBLE!!! Just coincidence in state after state???? I think not!!!
Seems like those two lapses in the firewall (both reported by the Sanders Campaign) are benefitting only one of our two Democratic candidates...
HIGHEST PRIORITY!!! PLEASE TELL EVERYONE WHO IS STILL WAITING TO VOTE IN PRIMARIES TO CHECK THEIR REGISTRATION...ESPECIALLY FRIENDS IN NY AND PA!!!
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)CountAllVotes
(21,154 posts)Gee and in Washington, D.C. of all places. Who would have thunk?
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& recommend!!
larrysanders
(22 posts)NBC4 News reported that a voter in D.C. filed a challenge against the Vermont senator's registration, which will be heard in April.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/274738-dem-mistake-leaves-sanders-off-ballot-in-dc
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)classykaren
(769 posts)mariawr
(348 posts)...DWS, Brock and the rest of the DLC minions will totally jump the shark into uncharted waters
MisterP
(23,730 posts)keep him out of buildings because men are a threat or something
valerief
(53,235 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Bubzer, do you have a link to Senator Sanders official recommended action for his supporters? Since I'm not a resident of DC, I don't have any legal standing to take action, or do I?
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)do'h..... DNC on self destruct
Safe as Milk
(51 posts)She's widening the path for Hillary. That was her job in 2008, when she was Hillary's campaign manager, and lost, so she's being HRC's agent with a vengeance this time around. For DWS, the end justifies the means.
StevieM
(10,555 posts)Also, DWS was made DNC chair by Barack Obama. Nobody pressured him into it. He appointed her because he wanted to.
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