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Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:13 PM Mar 2016

Sanders bumped off D.C. ballot

Source: Politico

As a result of a registration error committed by the District of Columbia Democratic Party, Sen. Bernie Sanders won't appear on the Washington D.C. ballot.

The Vermont senator's name won't appear on the ballot because the party submitted the requisite paperwork one day too late, according to NBC's Washington affiliate, News4.

Both the Sanders' campaign and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton's campaign paid the $2,500 fee to appear on the June 14 Democratic primary ballot on time but the district's Democratic Party failed to inform the Washington D.C. Board of Elections until March 17, one day after the deadline.

There are still avenues for Sanders to make the ballot -- Anita Bonds, the chairwoman of the Democratic Party in D.C., told News4 that the problem could be resolved via an emergency vote of the D.C. City Council.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernie-sanders-district-columbia-ballot-221398



I smell a rat
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Sanders bumped off D.C. ballot (Original Post) Bubzer Mar 2016 OP
there have been lots of rats 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #1
Rats that all run in the same direction... kristopher Mar 2016 #54
Arithmetic chknltl Mar 2016 #77
nom nom nom AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #89
BING! cactusfractal Mar 2016 #152
A dumb bureaucratic snafu, elleng Mar 2016 #2
And it's purely coincidental that such bureaucratic snafus never affect the Clinton campaign. jeff47 Mar 2016 #5
I think I read, somewhere among the 'stuff,' elleng Mar 2016 #9
Nope. Both campaigns submitted their documents before the party's deadline. jeff47 Mar 2016 #12
There is some confusion because JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #26
Do you have a link to ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #85
Wrong!!! Think You Read? billhicks76 Mar 2016 #91
There really is no need for nastiness, hicks. elleng Mar 2016 #112
Well The People's Anger Is Rising billhicks76 Mar 2016 #114
I agree, and I understand. elleng Mar 2016 #118
Former 20 yr DC resident here too DebbieCDC Mar 2016 #131
Hi, neighbor! elleng Mar 2016 #132
I think I read somewhere that my farts smell like eau de cologne. n/t tabasco Mar 2016 #145
That IS a lie. elleng Mar 2016 #149
exactly! Pharaoh Mar 2016 #37
BBBBBRRRRRRAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #62
That could simply mean the Clinton campaign is a bit better organized anigbrowl Mar 2016 #153
Both Bernie and Hillary submitted docs and dollars on time. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2016 #171
Try reading past the headline next time. nt anigbrowl Mar 2016 #172
THAT is what your argument is? jeff47 Mar 2016 #175
Yawn anigbrowl Mar 2016 #176
Yeah, election fraud. Who cares? jeff47 Mar 2016 #177
Enjoy yourself, as I'm unlikely to see it anigbrowl Mar 2016 #178
Accompanied with a lot of other dumb bureaucratic snafus... awfully convienient Bubzer Mar 2016 #11
Happens often in DC, unfortunately. elleng Mar 2016 #16
It's made to happen in DC, quite often. Bubzer Mar 2016 #19
Talk about slime. This is disgusting. snagglepuss Mar 2016 #3
It's A CONSPIRACY! nt onehandle Mar 2016 #4
Looks like a fact to me. nt retrowire Mar 2016 #14
How times will you dismiss or rationalize Bernie being screwed? Chasstev365 Mar 2016 #29
If Sander's campaign turned it in on time and the DNC screwed it up for him but not Clinton passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #38
The DNC is there for Clinton. dchill Mar 2016 #110
In. The. Bag. Raster Mar 2016 #173
Posting the same comment in every thread about Bernie merely shows FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #126
Yes, someone very close to your candidate is conspiring. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #144
It could be simple incompetence. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #146
Glad you admit you recognize it. Some live in bubbles pretending that there are no rhett o rick Mar 2016 #150
And they wonder why Sander's folks wont vote for Clinton if she wins the GE. PFunk1 Mar 2016 #6
If Clinton wins the GE ... she is the President, we won't care if you voted for her or not SFnomad Mar 2016 #32
Of course it's not Clinton's fault. Did anyone say it was? passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #56
They would, and if it went the same way for her I'd call dirty pool on it even though Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #64
Re: Did anyone say it was [Clinton's fault]? SFnomad Mar 2016 #68
No, they are taking it out on Hillary because the DNC is working for her passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #72
What a load of garbage n/t SFnomad Mar 2016 #74
Debbie's words and actions have been loud in terms of her support for Hillary, Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #169
What does the DNC has to do with this? 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #86
The DNC has nothing to do with this, as far as I can tell, though there isn't much information here SFnomad Mar 2016 #108
…not every Sanders supporter larrysanders Mar 2016 #135
She CANT win without us; but you proceed please.... onecaliberal Mar 2016 #105
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #109
Bad choice of words, I ment the primary. PFunk1 Mar 2016 #174
Why would you assume Clinton had anything to do with this snafu? stopbush Mar 2016 #35
Occams Razor. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #50
Considering that Bernie's campaign has been flagged stopbush Mar 2016 #116
This doesn't strike me as the simplest explanation, which is why also like Hanlon's razor: anigbrowl Mar 2016 #155
I guess we will have to see how it turns out. n/t passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #73
It's to be expected. treestar Mar 2016 #99
What does HRC have to do with this? 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #84
Sounding More Like A Republican Excusing Every Election Fraud Example billhicks76 Mar 2016 #92
Bullshit, my question is not an excuse ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #102
Avoided Point Again billhicks76 Mar 2016 #113
Uh ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #119
Yeah I'm Sure DWS Doesn't Coordinate Locally billhicks76 Mar 2016 #158
OkAY. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #159
Karl Rove Has Slipped Up And Supported Hillary Tactics Before Too billhicks76 Mar 2016 #160
Well, Alrighty! ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #161
Wow. That's Extreme billhicks76 Mar 2016 #162
Alex Jones considers himself, "Informed", too ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #164
Ah Yes...Deflection and Obfuscation billhicks76 Mar 2016 #167
Yeah ... Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #168
"credibility" from you.... stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #156
At the end of the article Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #7
Yes. This surely will happen, Steve. elleng Mar 2016 #10
The fact that it can be fixed does not change that it should not need to be fixed. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2016 #15
Mistakes happen. Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #22
When all of those mistakes by the party apparatus happen to only affect one candidate jeff47 Mar 2016 #31
What other mistakes by the party are you referring to? nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #36
There's been several. jeff47 Mar 2016 #59
... Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #66
What sane, logical explanation do you have for all of those counting errors going one way? jeff47 Mar 2016 #67
Sane and logical would have shown Clinton's name off the ballot too. AllyCat Mar 2016 #79
Should Be A Photo Of A Coincidence Theorist billhicks76 Mar 2016 #94
wish the site had cat smilies :laughing: larrysanders Mar 2016 #136
Mistakes happen, like the Iraq War bahrbearian Mar 2016 #141
this one is even more disgusting . stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #157
Because the word "conspiracy" in the dictionary is a misprint? LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #154
Jeff, I think the Bernie supporters see a pattern in everything. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #47
Again, when the problems jeff47 Mar 2016 #55
Jeff, Bernie will be on the ballot. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #70
Yeah, especially when they are in Hillary's favor. passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #61
Hopefully they fix this. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #8
The DNC stinks to high Hell berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #13
Two candidates in the running and left one off--and lo and behold, that one was not Hillary. merrily Mar 2016 #17
Yep, corruption under every rock, behind every tree, and in every word that Hillary has ever stated. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #49
. merrily Mar 2016 #52
Don't know about the rock and the tree... but you are certainly right about Hillary being corrupt. AzDar Mar 2016 #83
Pretty Much billhicks76 Mar 2016 #96
My first thought...WTF??? SoapBox Mar 2016 #18
WATCH this vid.... Very Nessesary for any REAL Dem. alittlelark Mar 2016 #20
I agree...it's a very important and revealing video. I did some research after watching it. Bubzer Mar 2016 #24
Yours has an 'ERROR' message as well.... alittlelark Mar 2016 #28
Huh....I can watch it just fine. Bubzer Mar 2016 #41
Doesn't work for me on either DU or YouTube alittlelark Mar 2016 #71
You may have an issue going on with either flash or Java. Are they bugging you for an update? Bubzer Mar 2016 #107
Nope... all current. Been on them all day.... alittlelark Mar 2016 #121
Huh. Thats a strange one. Who's your internet provider? Bubzer Mar 2016 #122
Windstream - but the vid suddenly stated working!! alittlelark Mar 2016 #124
It's not an 'error' to submit only one of two names on time. Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #21
And a really stinky rat too! ananda Mar 2016 #23
WOW Old Codger Mar 2016 #25
A big rat, too. bvf Mar 2016 #27
As a Hillary supporter, this is entirely unacceptable. stopbush Mar 2016 #30
This is a joke right? NowSam Mar 2016 #33
This stinks to high heaven. Baitball Blogger Mar 2016 #34
Something just isn't right here ripcord Mar 2016 #39
WRITE IN BALLOTS? no_hypocrisy Mar 2016 #40
How did Clinton get ON the ballot? Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #42
Papers for both candidates were late, but someone challenged only Sanders' ballot access. JimDandy Mar 2016 #60
THIS IS THE REASON^^^^^^^ Sophiegirl Mar 2016 #138
Unprofessional and sloppy, at BEST. (n/t) klook Mar 2016 #69
Nine months? Safe as Milk Mar 2016 #165
Fuck yeah there's a rat! Fuddnik Mar 2016 #43
What assholes. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #44
He should OF COURSE be put on the ballot. But why should the other team conspire pnwmom Mar 2016 #45
Because Clinton Campaign Losing Confidence billhicks76 Mar 2016 #97
This is so ridiculous. If they were going to pull a trick, they would have pnwmom Mar 2016 #100
Wrong billhicks76 Mar 2016 #111
Try reading again but this time pay attention. pnwmom Mar 2016 #115
"Let Them Eat Cake" Is A Losing Strategy billhicks76 Mar 2016 #117
Changing the subject because you were wrong is a losing strategy. pnwmom Mar 2016 #120
If this race tightens as expected then not being on the DC ballot could be killer. RichVRichV Mar 2016 #181
I have no hope. I see no future. n/t Hotler Mar 2016 #46
Here we go again. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #48
So if they both paid on time.... blackspade Mar 2016 #51
An "error." Right. silverweb Mar 2016 #53
I smell a RepublicRAT. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #57
Fuckers at the DNC. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #58
Hey, at least his $2,500 check cleared or did it... dubyadiprecession Mar 2016 #63
Put him on the ballot and end the drama bluestateguy Mar 2016 #65
Rat stench. zentrum Mar 2016 #75
DC has 20 delegates OnlinePoker Mar 2016 #76
If the Chair of the Dem party in D.C. says he'll be on the ballot pnwmom Mar 2016 #78
"problem could be resolved via an emergency vote of the D.C. City Council" So have the meeting. Sunlei Mar 2016 #80
If Hillary and her supporters expect the backing of Bernie's voters in November BlandGrenade Mar 2016 #81
you are not fooling anyone Skittles Mar 2016 #101
DC party chair: Sanders will appear on ballot n2doc Mar 2016 #82
Oh for Pete's sake TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #87
It seems someone in the DC Democratic Party has a sense of perspective: Ford_Prefect Mar 2016 #88
I wish Anita Bonds success in her clarification. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2016 #142
PLEASE somebody - get an emergency meeting for this vote! MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #90
Of course there are going to be claims it is on purpose treestar Mar 2016 #93
Did You Read??? billhicks76 Mar 2016 #98
If it's not on purpose mishi48.59 Mar 2016 #95
It's on purpose AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #133
Washington Post: Bernie will be on the ballot. WhiteTara Mar 2016 #103
Great, let us know when the challenge has been thrown out. Kittycat Mar 2016 #128
"Failed to inform"? I should think the PAYMENT would have informed. Beartracks Mar 2016 #104
Then someone needs to call a vote and fix this! tartan2 Mar 2016 #106
I feel like throwing something... Zira Mar 2016 #123
I did... piece of firewood against a tree. alittlelark Mar 2016 #125
K and R for visibility bbgrunt Mar 2016 #127
OUR REGISTRATIONS HIJACKED IN PENNSYLVANIA kadaholo Mar 2016 #129
They need to fix this right away Marrah_G Mar 2016 #130
I smell a BIG RAT CountAllVotes Mar 2016 #134
per NBC4 News a voter in D.C. filed a challenge against the Vermont senator's registration larrysanders Mar 2016 #137
Yes. See my post #138. eom Sophiegirl Mar 2016 #139
We need to demand he is put on the ballot is there a petition? classykaren Mar 2016 #140
Stay tuned. As this race gets closer..... mariawr Mar 2016 #143
revoking citizenship, having Congress undo California's 1850 statehood, or just trying to physically MisterP Mar 2016 #163
Thieves. Fuckin' thieves. nt valerief Mar 2016 #147
k&rats saidsimplesimon Mar 2016 #148
I smell DWS not doing her job PatrynXX Mar 2016 #151
She IS doing her job. Safe as Milk Mar 2016 #166
DWS was not Hillary's campaign manager in 2008, Maggie Williams was. StevieM Mar 2016 #180
Debbie Dumper. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #170
Another day, another fake scandal. (eom) StevieM Mar 2016 #179

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
77. Arithmetic
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:59 PM
Mar 2016

My grade school teacher taught us to spell it: A Rat In The House May Eat The Ice Cream. It seams soooo fitting given all the ice cream that's up for grabs and all those rats salivating over it.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
9. I think I read, somewhere among the 'stuff,'
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

that Sanders campaign submitted some docs 30 or so minutes late.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
12. Nope. Both campaigns submitted their documents before the party's deadline.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:22 PM
Mar 2016

The party was then supposed to submit the candidates to the DC board of elections.

Some stories say Clinton's was submitted on time, Sanders was submitted late.

Now there's a story claiming both candidates were submitted late, but only Sanders was challenged.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
26. There is some confusion because
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

while both candidates (apparently) submitted their docs on time to the party, the party didn't deliver the docs on time. But only Sanders is challenged. There is some confusion in the news stories out there now due to the two deadlines. Sanders' campaign didn't screw anything up though, from what I can read.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
114. Well The People's Anger Is Rising
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:31 PM
Mar 2016

It's amazing that it's becoming equally directed at democrats...BY DEMOCRATS. Internecine warfare happens when corruption and sell-outs become too much for average people to bear. Hillary is 100% the "Let Them Eat Cake" candidate.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
118. I agree, and I understand.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:40 PM
Mar 2016

I found what I'd seen and referred to:

'Confusion appeared to reign late Wednesday over just what happened and whether it could be fixed.

D.C. Democratic Party Chairwoman Anita Bonds told The Washington Times that the party’s primary plan, which included the paperwork for all candidates, was submitted by 7 p.m. on the 16th. The D.C. Board of Elections offices closes at 4:45 p.m.'

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/30/bernie-sanders-left-dc-primary-ballot-after-democr/


As a former DC resident for 20+ years, I'm all too familiar with bureaucratic 'snafus' like this; they occur in many facets of life and business in DC, so I'm not surprised, but I am dismayed. I expect this will be corrected.

DebbieCDC

(2,543 posts)
131. Former 20 yr DC resident here too
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:11 AM
Mar 2016

I saw it time and time and time again. The DC bureaucracy is eff'ed to the max.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
149. That IS a lie.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:32 PM
Mar 2016

THIS is what I read:

'Confusion appeared to reign late Wednesday over just what happened and whether it could be fixed.

D.C. Democratic Party Chairwoman Anita Bonds told The Washington Times that the party’s primary plan, which included the paperwork for all candidates, was submitted by 7 p.m. on the 16th. The D.C. Board of Elections offices closes at 4:45 p.m.'

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/30/bernie-sanders-left-dc-primary-ballot-after-democr/

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
153. That could simply mean the Clinton campaign is a bit better organized
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:06 PM
Mar 2016

I hate bureaucracy myself, so when I have to deal with it I tend to over-prepare so as not to have to put up with snafus. In this case that might as simple as a follow-up call every day to make sure the paperwork has been submitted on time. If you see bogeymen behind every problem then maybe the problem actually lies with you.

DamnYankeeInHouston

(1,365 posts)
171. Both Bernie and Hillary submitted docs and dollars on time.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:38 PM
Mar 2016

The Democratic Party turned the paperwork in late for both candidates. Only Bernie's paperwork was challenged. There has been no reason given. It shows the Democratic Party to be both inept and working for one candidate.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
175. THAT is what your argument is?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:00 PM
Mar 2016

You post your "call every day" bullshit and then demand the other poster read past the headline?

Both campaigns were submitted to the DC Board of Elections by the DC Democratic party on the same day. And that day was one day late.

But the Clinton campaign was organized enough to get a false submission date entered on their form!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511619539

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
176. Yawn
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:04 PM
Mar 2016

Allegations are not facts, and I have better things to do than respond to rude, aggressive people. It is plain you are looking for a fight rather than a discussion, but you will have to look elsewhere.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
177. Yeah, election fraud. Who cares?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:05 PM
Mar 2016

It will be lots of fun linking to this when you get angry at Republicans committing election fraud.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
178. Enjoy yourself, as I'm unlikely to see it
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:13 PM
Mar 2016

Frankly I rarely found your posts worth reading in the past and I'm sure you feel the same about mine, so I'm not going to bother doing so from now on.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
38. If Sander's campaign turned it in on time and the DNC screwed it up for him but not Clinton
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:02 PM
Mar 2016

You can bet your bippy they screwed up. But then, that was to be expected, wasn't it?

And if it happened to Clinton and not Sanders, you'd be screaming holy hell!

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
126. Posting the same comment in every thread about Bernie merely shows
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:28 PM
Mar 2016

your lack of seriousness on this site dedicated to political discussion.

You must think it make you sound clever.

In fact it has the opposite effect.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
144. Yes, someone very close to your candidate is conspiring.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:46 AM
Mar 2016

And your candidate seems happy about it. Shame.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
146. It could be simple incompetence.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:13 AM
Mar 2016

But the level of incompetence we've seen in the democratic party's process this election is staggering & it leaves one questioning the democratic process. Nothing squashes enthusiasm like thinking your vote doesn't count. I haven't decided if dem leadership thinks they can win without the left or if they are just so damned confident we will fall in line like we always have.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
150. Glad you admit you recognize it. Some live in bubbles pretending that there are no
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

conspiracies and when someone suggests such, they stick fingers in ears, and close eyes and say "Clinton is honest, Clinton is honest."

All of the shenanigans have been against Sanders. Some say coincidence and, like you others say bullshit, it's a conspiracy to keep a Progressive out of the WH. Those with money think they are entitled to get their way and sadly some, so-called, Democrats seem to believe them.

Politics is all about conspiracies. Think Tanks are really Conspiracy Tanks. Karl Rove makes a living conspiring and it wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't on loan from the Bush Crime Family to help friend Clinton out.

PFunk1

(185 posts)
6. And they wonder why Sander's folks wont vote for Clinton if she wins the GE.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:19 PM
Mar 2016

Crap like this wont help matters any.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
32. If Clinton wins the GE ... she is the President, we won't care if you voted for her or not
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

Of course, it doesn't matter than this isn't Clinton or her campaign's fault. You need to have your outrage and it doesn't matter what the facts are.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
56. Of course it's not Clinton's fault. Did anyone say it was?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

It was the DNC's fault, and ooops...they support Clinton. Big woopsie!

And again, if this happened to Clinton, do you really think you Hill supporters wouldn't be going apeshit over this?

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
64. They would, and if it went the same way for her I'd call dirty pool on it even though
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:28 PM
Mar 2016

I don't want her to win. Principles, man.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
68. Re: Did anyone say it was [Clinton's fault]?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:34 PM
Mar 2016

Well, let's put it this way ... the poster I replied to said:

And they wonder why Sander's folks wont vote for Clinton if she wins the GE.


Either the poster is blaming Clinton for it and taking it out on her because of it, even though she had nothing to do with it ... or ... the poster is taking it out on Clinton even though they know she doesn't have anything to do with it, like the way the Bush administration invaded a country even though they had nothing to do with the terrorism that was used as an excuse, to invade the country. Neither option is really a good one, is it?

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
72. No, they are taking it out on Hillary because the DNC is working for her
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:51 PM
Mar 2016

And this is the kind of shit they pull to make certain she is the favorite.

It is and isn't Hillary's fault. She knows what Debbie is doing. She is not blind to the favoritism.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
108. The DNC has nothing to do with this, as far as I can tell, though there isn't much information here
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:12 PM
Mar 2016

It sounds like it was a royal screw-up by the DC Democratic Party. And there are perpetually outraged Sanders supporters that now have another reason to take it out on Hillary, even though she apparently didn't have anything to do with it either.

larrysanders

(22 posts)
135. …not every Sanders supporter
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:23 AM
Mar 2016

It's a BIG screwup.

NON-constructive criticism doesn't help Dems in the long run.

Response to onecaliberal (Reply #105)

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
35. Why would you assume Clinton had anything to do with this snafu?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:47 PM
Mar 2016

There's no upside for her campaign to screw around with something like this.

A stupid mistake by the D Dem Party that will be fixed before the ink is dry.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
50. Occams Razor.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:19 PM
Mar 2016

The simplest explanation is usually correct.

And with the history of this campaign and that candidate, it's pretty simple.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
116. Considering that Bernie's campaign has been flagged
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:33 PM
Mar 2016

for campaign donation irregularities, and that they didn't bother building a ground game in many of the statES they've lost, and the fact that they ended up losing half the states they predicted they'd win, Occam's Razor points to the gross incompetence of the Sanders campaign as being the likely reason they missed the ballot in DC.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
155. This doesn't strike me as the simplest explanation, which is why also like Hanlon's razor:
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:14 PM
Mar 2016

'Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.'

As I've gotten older I've found that speculating about people's motivations is a complete waste of time in most cases, for the same reason that people jumping to conclusions about why you or I might do something are usually incorrect. Instead I focus on the origin of the problem and whether and how it could be corrected, as well as developing a strategy to ensure it doesn't recur in the future. It is not a good use of my time, nor yours, to do work on imagining hypothetical motivations that can never be tested or proved.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
92. Sounding More Like A Republican Excusing Every Election Fraud Example
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:39 PM
Mar 2016

Seriously do you live in a bubble? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously. A complaint was made against Sanders and not Clinton. Is this the rethuglicans fault again? You have lost every shred of credibility you hoped you ever had.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
102. Bullshit, my question is not an excuse ...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:58 PM
Mar 2016
Seriously do you live in a bubble?


Yes ... It's commonly called, the real world.

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously.


I really don't care if people that default to some, and any, conspiracy take me seriously, or not.

Is this the rethuglicans fault again?


I don't know; but, that wasn't my question ... was it?

You have lost every shred of credibility you hoped you ever had.


Again, I will have no problem sleeping tonight.
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
113. Avoided Point Again
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:28 PM
Mar 2016

DWS and party filed paperwork late and someone complained about Sanders and not Clinton. You don't know if it was a republican? Really? In DC? There are no republican residents for the most part and only someone with inside knowledge could do this as evident by a 1-0 vote. It only took one complaint as Clinton campaign surely knew. 20 delegates at stake. You must think the tooth fairy did this. You may not care about your credibility and that is good because you have none.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
119. Uh ...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:40 PM
Mar 2016
DWS and party filed paperwork late


No, she didn't. DWS had nothing to do with this.

You talk about "credibility" and don't know the basics of how local Parties work and that lead you to ignorant outrage.
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
158. Yeah I'm Sure DWS Doesn't Coordinate Locally
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Especially in DC during a heated election. Just like Karl Rove didn't coordinate in state house elections because he ran a national organization.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
160. Karl Rove Has Slipped Up And Supported Hillary Tactics Before Too
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:44 PM
Mar 2016

But then again the Bush family is close intimate friends with the Clintons. The opposition is just a charade for the commoners.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
162. Wow. That's Extreme
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:53 PM
Mar 2016

I thought you were at least slightly informed. I guess it's your credibility problem getting to you. The Clintons became close with the Bush family in '81. That's a fact. And beyond DC cocktail parties. Any informed democrat knows this. IranContra was pivotal.
I watched every one of those IranContra hearings in 1987. Did you? I spoke with congressman on that committee who told me what happened when they went to executive session behind closed doors. You have no idea what you're talking about. I also was raised in an elitist republican family in NY and Maine and I assure you these are not fairy tales. Alliances with the Clintons were made in 1981 after he ran for governor again. I can find photos for you since you obviously can't do your own homework. An easy one for you is the photo at Bush's PRIVATE retreat in Maine in '83 sitting Bill, Bush Sr and the racist George Wallace. Clinton pretended to barely know Bush in 92. He was "allowed" to be the nominee after Perot decided to be a spoiler in 92. It's not a surprise that after 2000 Bush Sr referred to him and Hillary as honorary members of the Bush family. Keep spreading naivite. You are for real right?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
164. Alex Jones considers himself, "Informed", too ...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:00 PM
Mar 2016

and can spin all sorts of connections.

But I guess you are slightly better ... none of your connections (thus far) involve reptilians or chem-trails.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
167. Ah Yes...Deflection and Obfuscation
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:18 PM
Mar 2016

So typical. Invoking the racist, sexist xenophobic Alex Jones when you can't respond to facts? That's like a child. That's what sock-puppets or people with no argument do. No we aren't talking about Alex Jones. What's next calling anyone who disagrees with you a Ron Paul supporter? What's nests comparing us all to Bill Cosby? Conspiracy? So pathetic. You do know tens of thousands of people are locked up in federal prison on conspiracy charges alone right? My guess is you don't care one bit and are quite alright with the drug war destroying families and eroding our rights. I think it's you who needs to take off the tin foil hat and get out of your moms basement.

Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
7. At the end of the article
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:19 PM
Mar 2016

There are still avenues for Sanders to make the ballot -- Anita Bonds, the chairwoman of the Democratic Party in D.C., told News4 that the problem could be resolved via an emergency vote of the D.C. City Council.

In a statement, the Sanders campaign said it expected to get on the ballot.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
31. When all of those mistakes by the party apparatus happen to only affect one candidate
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

are we not supposed to notice the pattern?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
59. There's been several.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:26 PM
Mar 2016

How bout the erroneous delegate counts in IA that all favored Clinton? Must've just been an honest mistake!!!

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
67. What sane, logical explanation do you have for all of those counting errors going one way?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:34 PM
Mar 2016

How 'bout your sane, logical explanation for only Sanders getting left off the DC ballot?

Mistakes are random. When these problems all go one way, they aren't random.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
94. Should Be A Photo Of A Coincidence Theorist
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:41 PM
Mar 2016

Sorry but facts ruin your petty analysis. Just like they always did to Bush.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
154. Because the word "conspiracy" in the dictionary is a misprint?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:10 PM
Mar 2016

And the term "theory" is also added. Can't even accept the possibility of any authoritarian entity pulling one over on you? Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

Its as if you refuse to believe the Dictionary. News Flash: Its all true! There is actually a term that defines when two or more people conspire together for power or money or some other advantage over others. Furthermore, there are examples in US historical fact when conspiracies happened!

Project MKUltra
Operation Northwoods
Operation Mockingbird
COINTELPRO

and others.

Bush Sr. and the false flag of babies dying on the floor of hospitals in Kuwait to start the first Gulf War.

NSA threatening service providers to allow them to eavesdrop unconstitutionally.



kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
47. Jeff, I think the Bernie supporters see a pattern in everything.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:16 PM
Mar 2016

Corruption wherever Bernie doesn't do particularly well in a state primary, corruption at the ballot box, corruption whenever the media does a story about Bernie that isn't worshipping enough.

And corruption in the DC situation. Ah, the humanity!

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
55. Again, when the problems
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:24 PM
Mar 2016
from the party apparatus all go one way, that's a pretty obvious pattern.

Don't win an election? That's not the party apparatus. Erroneous delegate counts get entered in IA that just happen to favor Clinton? DC Party happens to file late? Those are the party apparatus.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
70. Jeff, Bernie will be on the ballot.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:49 PM
Mar 2016

Check the thread I just posted on the Primaries forum (WP: Bernie will be on the ballot).

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
61. Yeah, especially when they are in Hillary's favor.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:27 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not going to hold my breath until Sanders is back on the ticket.

And no I don't blame Hillary for this. I blame Debbie.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
17. Two candidates in the running and left one off--and lo and behold, that one was not Hillary.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016

Lo and behold, it was the same candidate who's been getting screwed by state party officials in one primary and caucus after another, starting with Iowa, the same candidate that has been shafted by the DNC's debate schedule, who's been spoken about poorly by a DNC official who is supposed to be neutral, etc.

But no one is supposed to put two and two together and see a pattern, just as no one was supposed to do that with media until the Tyndall Report did it.

Anyone who countenances this corruption in the primary process, regardless of whom they support, should never again complain about stolen elections--and should be deeply ashamed of themselves.

Once again, the Des Moines Register's editorial board, which had endorsed Hillary, nailed it:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2016/02/03/editorial-something-smells-democratic-party/79777580/


Fsck corrupting any part of the process, no matter wich candidate it benefits or harms; and fsck anyone who doesn't condemn it, no matter whose candidate it benefits or harms. If you are among those who fail to condemn this or, worse, who deny it's been happened, please take this paragraph very personally.




kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
49. Yep, corruption under every rock, behind every tree, and in every word that Hillary has ever stated.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:18 PM
Mar 2016

Ah, the humanity!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
52. .
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:20 PM
Mar 2016
Two candidates in the running and left one off--and lo and behold, that one was not Hillary. Lo and behold, it was the same candidate who's been getting screwed by state party officials in one primary and caucus after another, starting with Iowa, the same candidate that has been shafted by the DNC's debate schedule, who's been spoken about poorly by a DNC official who is supposed to be neutral, etc.

But no one is supposed to put two and two together and see a pattern, just as no one was supposed to do that with media until the Tyndall Report did it.

Anyone who countenances this corruption in the primary process, regardless of whom they support, should never again complain about stolen elections--and should be deeply ashamed of themselves.

Once again, the Des Moines Register's editorial board, which had endorsed Hillary, nailed it:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2016/02/03/editorial-something-smells-democratic-party/79777580/


Fsck corrupting any part of the process, no matter wich candidate it benefits or harms; and fsck anyone who doesn't condemn it, no matter whose candidate it benefits or harms. If you are among those who fail to condemn this or, worse, who deny it's been happened, please take this paragraph very personally.



 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
83. Don't know about the rock and the tree... but you are certainly right about Hillary being corrupt.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:20 PM
Mar 2016

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
20. WATCH this vid.... Very Nessesary for any REAL Dem.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:26 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1608898

Funny thing is that The You Tube, therefore DU version has had an error message for over 2 hours. If you click the link you MAY get audio....

It is documenting Clinton operatives in top positions in the Sanders campaign.... it is deeply disturbing

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
28. Yours has an 'ERROR' message as well....
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:41 PM
Mar 2016

Funny that - I stream YouTube regularly and have only seen that message twice before, it is always fine the next time I click on it.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
71. Doesn't work for me on either DU or YouTube
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:50 PM
Mar 2016

I sent it out earlier to ppl and it was fine - tried many times since and I get an error message.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
107. You may have an issue going on with either flash or Java. Are they bugging you for an update?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:11 PM
Mar 2016

There's also the possibility of spyware/adware or malware in general interfering with your internet...eating up your bandwidth.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
121. Nope... all current. Been on them all day....
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:52 PM
Mar 2016

...just cannot access the Mass. link. Cute kitties are fine.

The YouTube vid is still blocked for me.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
21. It's not an 'error' to submit only one of two names on time.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:28 PM
Mar 2016

This is sabotage by the DC Democratic Party.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
25. WOW
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:37 PM
Mar 2016

More and more blatant shit. Not too surprising really when you look at the DNC and all the rest of the party...

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
30. As a Hillary supporter, this is entirely unacceptable.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:44 PM
Mar 2016

I assume Sanders will appear on the ballot, but what a black eye for the DC Dem party.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
42. How did Clinton get ON the ballot?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:07 PM
Mar 2016

Article says:

Both the Sanders' campaign and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton's campaign paid the $2,500 fee to appear on the June 14 Democratic primary ballot on time but the district's Democratic Party failed to inform the Washington D.C. Board of Elections until March 17, one day after the deadline. --from the OP


If both paid the fee, and both were submitted a day after the deadline, HOW did Clinton get ON the ballot?

The article wording is a little unclear. It appears to say that BOTH were late. If true, WHY is only Clinton on the ballot? Does it work, being late and being a Clinton? You just get presumed to be a candidate for whatever? They put Clinton on the ballot, forgiving her highness for her lateness, and just tossed that other piece of paper into the trash on the way to a power lunch?

It's probably that they WEREN'T late with hers, ONLY with his.

The alleged Democratic Party did NOT fail to inform them that Clinton was on the ballot, apparently. So what did they do with Sanders' papers? Dog ate them on the way to the Board of Elections, or, in too big of a hurry to that donor lunch? WHY, if they both paid on time, did ONLY ONE of them get on the ballot? WHY was only THAT one LATE?

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
60. Papers for both candidates were late, but someone challenged only Sanders' ballot access.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:27 PM
Mar 2016

Probably a Clinton supporter. AFAIK, there is nothing to stop anyone from legally challenging the presence of Clinton's name on the ballot either.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
138. THIS IS THE REASON^^^^^^^
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:06 AM
Mar 2016

I live in No VA and have been listening to this all morning on the local news. An unnamed "activist" challenged Sanders. Both candidates filed on time. Both names were forwarded late. This "activist" issued the legal challenge against Bernie? Clinton could technically be challenged as well.

IIRC, this happened on the day the Metro was shut down for over 24 hours in an unprecedented move for safety inspections. It caused a commuting nightmare. Many people telecommuted or simply took the day off. Sloppy work, no doubt, but not at all a surprise from what I know of the DC bureaucracy.

This will be fixed.

Safe as Milk

(51 posts)
165. Nine months?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016

It took the DC Dems 9 months to notify the DNC, and even that was a day after the deadline. So what was the problem with the DC Dem Committee on March 17. Was there only one phone in the office and the call was made at 4:59pm so there wasn't time to mention that the Sanders campaign also paid for the registration?

This decision won't stand. It might stand if Sanders were a local fringe candidate. But he's tied nationally with Clinton. He's big time. And he's being subjected to high school shenanigans. It's embarrassing to Democratic voters in DC. Their local party is NOT serving them well.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
43. Fuck yeah there's a rat!
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:07 PM
Mar 2016

Went through similar bullshit with Disaster Debbies minions in Florida, when our county DEC's conveniently "forgot" to form a Federal PAC to help fund our campaign.

We explained other ways they could support us without the PAC, and no, they had to "check on it".

After we beat their hand picked candidate by 10 points in the primary. Debbie Disaster went on to endorse her Republican "friend".

There's rats alright. Lots of them.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
45. He should OF COURSE be put on the ballot. But why should the other team conspire
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:15 PM
Mar 2016

in an election in June that Hillary will carry in a landslide?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
100. This is so ridiculous. If they were going to pull a trick, they would have
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:54 PM
Mar 2016

filed Hillary's stuff weeks ago and only filed Bernie's at the last minute -- not file them both at the same time, only challenge Bernie, and wait for Bernie's people to kick up a storm of righteous indignation.

The head of the Dems there says their standard procedure is to process the paperwork on the last day and to file it on the next day. This time someone crawled up out of some hole and challenged Bernie but not Hillary.

It's obviously unfair and the DC Chair says it will be fixed.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
111. Wrong
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:22 PM
Mar 2016

There were no complaints about Clinton. Bernie had one and that was enough to keep him off ballot where there are 20 delegates at stake. DWS and the party filed the paperwork knowing this discrepancy. Your faith in coincidance amazes me. Too bad you're not a judge...with 500,000 people in prison over the past decade on conspiracy charges you're attitude would've surely helped.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
115. Try reading again but this time pay attention.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:33 PM
Mar 2016

I never said there were any complaints about Clinton. I said:

If they were going to pull a trick, they would have

filed Hillary's stuff weeks ago and only filed Bernie's at the last minute -- not file them both at the same time, only challenge Bernie, and wait for Bernie's people to kick up a storm of righteous indignation.

The head of the Dems there says their standard procedure is to process the paperwork on the last day and to file it on the next day. This time someone crawled up out of some hole and challenged Bernie but not Hillary.

It's obviously unfair and the DC Chair says it will be fixed.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
120. Changing the subject because you were wrong is a losing strategy.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:41 PM
Mar 2016

Here is an article about Bernie's "miracle path" by a much more objective observer.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/its-really-hard-to-get-bernie-sanders-988-more-delegates/

To reach a pledged delegate majority, Sanders will have to win most of the delegates from those big states. A major loss in any of them could be fatal to his chances. He could afford to lose one or two of them narrowly, but then he’d need to make up ground elsewhere — he’d probably have to win California by double digits, for example.

Sanders will also need to gain ground on Clinton in a series of medium-sized states such as Wisconsin, Indiana, Kentucky and New Mexico. Demographics suggest that these states could be close, but close won’t be enough for Sanders. He’ll need to win several of them easily.

None of this is all that likely. Frankly, none of it is at all likely. If the remaining states vote based on the same demographic patterns established by the previous ones, Clinton will probably gain further ground on Sanders. If they vote as state-by-state polling suggests they will, Clinton could roughly double her current advantage over Sanders and wind up winning the nomination by 400 to 500 pledged delegates.

But things can change, and polls can be wrong — and so it’s worth doing the math to see what winning 988 more delegates would look like for Sanders. Call it a path-of-least-implausibility. If you think Sanders can meet or exceed these targets, then you can say with a straight face that you think he’ll win the nomination. If you think they’re too good to be true, then you can’t. Here’s the Bernie-miracle path I came up with:

SNIP

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
181. If this race tightens as expected then not being on the DC ballot could be killer.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:34 PM
Mar 2016

If Hillary won 70% of the vote in DC and got 14 delegates vs Bernie's 6 delegates. That's a net of 8 delegates for Hillary.

If Bernie weren't on the ballot at all, that's 20 delegates to Hillary verses 0 for Bernie. That's a net of 20 delegates for Hillary.

Bernie winning just 30% of the vote would be a 12 delegate swing versus him not being on the ballot at all. If this race tightens up (and Bernie takes a slight lead after June 7th) that could be the deciding factor in the outcome.




Whether Bernie closes the gap or Hillary expands her lead, every Democrat should have the right to have their vote counted.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
51. So if they both paid on time....
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:20 PM
Mar 2016

Why was Clinton the only one that the Party 'informed' the board of elections about?
What was the timeline?

This is shady as shit.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
53. An "error." Right.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:21 PM
Mar 2016


[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Remember that old line that goes something like, "It's easier to apologize afterwards than ask permission ahead of time"? Some overly zealous and deceitful people live by it.



bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
65. Put him on the ballot and end the drama
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:30 PM
Mar 2016

I don't like technicalities in ballot access stuff.

That's Theresa LaPore/Kathryn Harris crap.

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
76. DC has 20 delegates
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:58 PM
Mar 2016

If Sanders isn't on the ballot (especially if things tighten up before then), then those delegates should not be included in Clinton's count.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
78. If the Chair of the Dem party in D.C. says he'll be on the ballot
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:05 PM
Mar 2016

then he'll be on the ballot.

This was a stupid screw-up but it will be easily fixed.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
80. "problem could be resolved via an emergency vote of the D.C. City Council" So have the meeting.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:11 PM
Mar 2016

Americas election & voting system is way more complicated then it has to be.

BlandGrenade

(29 posts)
81. If Hillary and her supporters expect the backing of Bernie's voters in November
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:14 PM
Mar 2016

Then "SHIT HAPPENS" IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE FUCKING RESPONSE. If she wins the nominations, SHE WILL INDEED have to answer for these "anomalies", either to those of us now feeling the Bern, or in november to the entire nation in a concession speech TO DONALD TRUMP.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
82. DC party chair: Sanders will appear on ballot
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:17 PM
Mar 2016

Getty
Sen. Bernie Sanders is likely to be on the D.C. presidential ballot despite a registration error by the local Democratic Party, CNN reports.

Anita Bonds, chairwoman of the Washington, D.C. Democratic Party told CNN she was confident he would appear on the primary ballot despite a challenge filed with the city’s Board of Elections.
“Bernie will be on the ballot,” she told CNN.

The D.C. Democratic Party was required to file to the D.C. Board of Elections by March 16 but submitted the registration paperwork for Sanders a day late, and a challenge was filed against him.

Bonds said the party’s deadline is a few hours after the Board of Elections closes, so the staff usually delivers the filings the next day, which has been the standard in the past, but this time, someone challenged Sanders.

more
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/274752-dc-party-chair-sanders-will-appear-on-ballot

Hmmmmm....

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
87. Oh for Pete's sake
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:30 PM
Mar 2016

First all the coin flips go in favor of Clinton in Iowa.

Long lines in NV.

Bill Clinton showing up at a polling place in MA.

Then the AZ fiasco.

Now this.

I'm probably forgetting something.

I'm not saying HRC had anything personally to do with it, but I wouldn't put it past her minions.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
88. It seems someone in the DC Democratic Party has a sense of perspective:
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:31 PM
Mar 2016
Anita Bonds (chairwoman of the Democratic Party in D.C.) said she would submit a “clarification” in the city rules that would allow a 24-hour grace period after the filing deadline, putting Sanders on the ballot, according to CNN.


I guess we'll see if that's enough to solve the problem.

As far as the degree of frequency of this and other "errors" and whether Hillary knew about it all, I find it hard to believe she does not know of it given her well documented obsession with details and control. As to whether she planned this kind of thing I believe she would have delegated most if not all of this activity to others in the campaign or the DNC so as to maintain a degree of Plausible Deniability, and to be able to keep her focus on the presentation of herself as candidate.

I also believe there is more than enough evidence which points to Debbie Wasserman Schultz and David Brock as both are well known for slimy underhanded politics. This view gives less than fair credit to the local and state level Democrats who view themselves as gate keepers against any aspirations of progressive Democrats. I have personally seen this last group in action in NH, WA, and NC.

They see progressives as a threat to the party, as dreamers who have no sense of compromise or gravitas, as the demons who undid the party in 1968. They also never saw a crooked voting machine or ballot count server, or a tainted ballot, or a party system at odds with everyday people. They remind me of those people who looked down their noses at the Peace movement as misguided and unpatriotic. Who sat safely in their suburban living rooms while the rest of us marched at Selma, and the Pentagon, and the Capitol, and The White House. They do not know what it takes to really change things and are not afraid to make sure the rest of you do not find out.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
142. I wish Anita Bonds success in her clarification.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:48 AM
Mar 2016

Ms Bonds is a superdelegate currently committed to Clinton. Hopefully she can still do her duty for the Democratic Party.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
93. Of course there are going to be claims it is on purpose
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:40 PM
Mar 2016

Even though if Hillary were really going to cheat, there'd be much better places to do it in than a place she is likely to win in a landslide.

Just sound like a bureaucratic snafu. Those happen.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
98. Did You Read???
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:44 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton supporter complained...Bernies did not...thats why shes on and hes not when DWS filed late.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
133. It's on purpose
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:51 AM
Mar 2016

nothing in politics happens by accident, especially when everyone's standing around acting like it was an accident

Track down that "DC voter" who objected to Sanders' ballot status and not HRC's and you'll have the source. I'd wager 20-1 that said objector is a HRC partisan and had inside knowledge that the filing was a day late.

kadaholo

(304 posts)
129. OUR REGISTRATIONS HIJACKED IN PENNSYLVANIA
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:38 AM
Mar 2016

This is UNBELIEVABLE! After reading an article at Anonymous on the antics in Arizona, I noticed a comment attached to the article that stated there are widespread reports of voter registration manipulation in PA and NY.

See article: Anonymous Investigate Arizona Election Fraud, “Sanders Was Hacked”
Link: http://www.anonews.co/anonymous-sanders-hack/

Since I live in PA and am a Bernie supporter, I decided to confirm my registration immediately.

I checked the VotesPA website and, sure enough, voter registration information on both my husband and me is not available!!! We have been registered Democrats and voting at this location since 1987 and 1994 respectively.

This is the message that came up for both of us: "No Voter Registration information could be found for the data provided. Either search again using different data or contact your County Voter Registration Office."

Calling tomorrow and surprise (not), we are Bernie supporters!!! INCREDIBLE!!! Just coincidence in state after state???? I think not!!!

Seems like those two lapses in the firewall (both reported by the Sanders Campaign) are benefitting only one of our two Democratic candidates...

HIGHEST PRIORITY!!! PLEASE TELL EVERYONE WHO IS STILL WAITING TO VOTE IN PRIMARIES TO CHECK THEIR REGISTRATION...ESPECIALLY FRIENDS IN NY AND PA!!!

larrysanders

(22 posts)
137. per NBC4 News a voter in D.C. filed a challenge against the Vermont senator's registration
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:30 AM
Mar 2016

NBC4 News reported that a voter in D.C. filed a challenge against the Vermont senator's registration, which will be heard in April.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/274738-dem-mistake-leaves-sanders-off-ballot-in-dc

mariawr

(348 posts)
143. Stay tuned. As this race gets closer.....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:52 AM
Mar 2016

...DWS, Brock and the rest of the DLC minions will totally jump the shark into uncharted waters

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
163. revoking citizenship, having Congress undo California's 1850 statehood, or just trying to physically
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:55 PM
Mar 2016

keep him out of buildings because men are a threat or something

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
148. k&rats
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

Bubzer, do you have a link to Senator Sanders official recommended action for his supporters? Since I'm not a resident of DC, I don't have any legal standing to take action, or do I?

Safe as Milk

(51 posts)
166. She IS doing her job.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:07 PM
Mar 2016

She's widening the path for Hillary. That was her job in 2008, when she was Hillary's campaign manager, and lost, so she's being HRC's agent with a vengeance this time around. For DWS, the end justifies the means.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
180. DWS was not Hillary's campaign manager in 2008, Maggie Williams was.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:19 PM
Mar 2016

Also, DWS was made DNC chair by Barack Obama. Nobody pressured him into it. He appointed her because he wanted to.

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