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BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:23 AM Apr 2016

Occupy Wall Street rises up for Sanders

Source: CNN

(CNN)The forces of Occupy Wall Street, splintered and faded in the aftermath of their 2011 demonstrations, are getting the band back together to boost Bernie Sanders ahead of next week's critical New York primary.

Nearly five years since Occupy was evicted from Zuccotti Park, blocks from the New York Stock Exchange in lower Manhattan, a coalition of organizers, labor leaders and progressive activists who lined up under the banner of "the 99 percent" are renewing their efforts in pursuit of a more traditional cause: Getting voters to the polls on April 19.

That begins with traditional canvassing, but will extend to what is expected to be a large pro-Sanders, Occupy-inspired march on Saturday in Manhattan.

"This is the place where the message of income inequality resonated across the country and across the world -- it's where it really began," said "People for Bernie" co-founder and Occupy activist Winnie Wong. "He's bringing it back home."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/13/politics/occupy-wall-street-bernie-sanders-new-york-primary/index.html

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Occupy Wall Street rises up for Sanders (Original Post) BigBearJohn Apr 2016 OP
Good News! mdbl Apr 2016 #1
Turn-up the Bern!! PeoViejo Apr 2016 #2
It is about time persuadable Apr 2016 #3
Welcome welcome welcome. ..nice to have you! BigBearJohn Apr 2016 #5
OWS was a failure because didnt vote: they turned out like Sanders lewebley3 Apr 2016 #31
Sigh and biting my tongue... me b zola Apr 2016 #38
keep in mind you're dealing with a troll navarth Apr 2016 #39
Clinton campaign's version of Tokyo Rose. Divernan Apr 2016 #59
catapult that propaganda whirlygigspin Apr 2016 #73
Perfect. Exactly. GoneFishin Apr 2016 #92
Yep. Yet another one of those that Skinner just can't do without. cui bono Apr 2016 #87
Your Latest Failed Observation billhicks76 Apr 2016 #58
No: I support Hillary a real Dem that get things done; not a failed socialist lewebley3 Apr 2016 #60
You don't like the 99% do you. Rhetorical. You like to side with big money. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #77
"nothing but not air." BeanMusical Apr 2016 #80
I would argue they did have an impact boobooday Apr 2016 #12
There is no revolution. Hillary has 2.5m more votes lewebley3 Apr 2016 #34
That's a lot of comatose Nursing Home Denizens. PeoViejo Apr 2016 #55
not a failure a smart move reddread Apr 2016 #18
While OWS did have an impact and started discussions, you are right that the lack of a leader Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #19
Isn't that EXACTLY the purpose of protests? bvar22 Apr 2016 #63
How did it fail? deacon_sephiroth Apr 2016 #22
e jwirr Apr 2016 #24
ows changed the national conversation,introduced the 99% vs the 1% questionseverything Apr 2016 #28
Thank you and welcome. 840high Apr 2016 #30
When the people are ready, the Leader will appear n/t. libdem4life Apr 2016 #82
I don't think it ever really "splintered and faded" LiberalElite Apr 2016 #4
This is really crucial... Helen Borg Apr 2016 #6
Sanders an empty suit: OWS turned out to be nothing because they failed to lewebley3 Apr 2016 #32
Wow! If an empty suit can make Hillary shit her britches this much, imagine her in the general!! FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #47
Hillary is crushing him:some of his money is coming from the GOP to attack her lewebley3 Apr 2016 #48
From nothing to within 200 delegates with 1000 left is hardly "crushing". HRC's money FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #51
2.5m more votes: Superdelgates ahead: Won more states: Their is no lewebley3 Apr 2016 #54
No link for your assertion? Thought so. Regardless of whether Bernie wins the nom, he has FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #65
You can almost LittleGirl Apr 2016 #88
Oh yeah.... it smells like ... lewebley3! FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #95
You're being played by a disruption troll. Don't feed it. navarth Apr 2016 #93
I know... pearls before swine. thanks. FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #94
What is the proof for that assertion? JDPriestly Apr 2016 #91
Earthquake? DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #7
Yeah, well we all know how that turned out and the changes it bought about. Jitter65 Apr 2016 #8
I think the underlying problem is allowing reality to be defined boobooday Apr 2016 #13
+1. WELCOME, OCCUPY and THANKS SO MUCH! appalachiablue Apr 2016 #25
The Big Tent is Becoming Much Larger Again, Fast! appalachiablue Apr 2016 #27
wow! navarth Apr 2016 #41
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW BigBearJohn Apr 2016 #86
Perfect response!!!!!!!! KPN Apr 2016 #26
Looks like TRump rally lewebley3 Apr 2016 #33
WTF is wrong with you? me b zola Apr 2016 #42
Trump and Sanders are same a lot of complaining: No solutions: Sanders is an empty suit lewebley3 Apr 2016 #44
Oh my. In calling Senator Sanders an empty suit you have revealed yourself me b zola Apr 2016 #45
Just the truth: Sanders is against fracking but has no plans to stop it: Hillary does lewebley3 Apr 2016 #49
Oh, I see. Hillary selling fracking to a dozen other nations is her plan to stop fracking? me b zola Apr 2016 #56
Hillary is not pushing for fracking: LA times exlpained Hillary's plan lewebley3 Apr 2016 #74
Your vulgarism let me know: I won the argument: You are empty of ideas lewebley3 Apr 2016 #57
LOL, took you a minute me b zola Apr 2016 #61
Thank you! boobooday Apr 2016 #72
the powers that be crushed Occupy because it frightened them, just like Bernie Sanders does now peacebird Apr 2016 #14
No one is scared of Sanders: The GOP would eat him alive if the Dem let him be the nominee lewebley3 Apr 2016 #50
I DO know how it turned out, do you? deacon_sephiroth Apr 2016 #23
Very well said passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #52
Were you one of the DU'ers laughing and high-fiving over people getting hosed with pepper spray? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #83
This is **HUGE** people BigBearJohn Apr 2016 #9
Kicked! zentrum Apr 2016 #10
Yes! Finally! ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #11
Welcome back. This time to stay!!! Cal33 Apr 2016 #15
K&R n/t lordsummerisle Apr 2016 #16
Go OWS! Go Bernie! Bring it on home! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #17
YES!!!!!! nt antigop Apr 2016 #20
The spirit of OWS was here the whole time Hydra Apr 2016 #21
Meanwhile in Eugene Oregon WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2016 #53
I'm also in Eugene. Zephyrbag Apr 2016 #71
Welcome to DU WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2016 #96
Fond memories of the last camping trip. JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #29
Rather condescending language in the article, IMHO .... Myrina Apr 2016 #35
Great news. nt Duval Apr 2016 #36
K&R cprise Apr 2016 #37
go OWS! the people are rising up! nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #40
We all know what side Hillary stands with LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #43
Dirty Hippies Babel_17 Apr 2016 #46
I actually think Occupy just merged into the main stream of thought and consciousness. silvershadow Apr 2016 #62
I would have joined them LittleGirl Apr 2016 #89
awesome sauce blackspade Apr 2016 #64
Excellent! Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #66
Forever freshman22 Apr 2016 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #68
The legacy of Occupy kpola12 Apr 2016 #69
Just want to add, though I've never researched it, I AM aware that, snot Apr 2016 #70
does my heart good warrprayer Apr 2016 #75
What is 48,000 times 35. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #76
Rockin' it. moondust Apr 2016 #78
My guess is Hillary supporters thebeautifulstruggle Apr 2016 #79
"May the road (street) rise up to meet you!" Beartracks Apr 2016 #81
K&R, BBJ... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #84
This is as it should be. senz Apr 2016 #85
Fantastic! It's not easy, all that happened to Occupy flamingdem Apr 2016 #90

persuadable

(53 posts)
3. It is about time
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:44 AM
Apr 2016

The reason OWS failed to have any impact was it had no leader, direction and goals. With Bernie it can have what it needs to have a real impact. With it Bernie has the movement to achieve the goals he has outlined, no matter what is the outcome o his Presidential campaign.

Power to the people.

By the way, I no longer support Hillary.

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
5. Welcome welcome welcome. ..nice to have you!
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:02 AM
Apr 2016


I really really loved what you said about OWS. With the participation of the OWS movement and Bernie's leadership this will be a huuuuge turning point in the primary. Shoulder-to-shoulder we cannot lose.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
38. Sigh and biting my tongue...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:21 PM
Apr 2016

The Bernie campaign would not have been possible without the Occupy movement. Occupy has not failed, only short-sighted individuals would suggest such a thing. This movement rolls forward.

whirlygigspin

(3,803 posts)
73. catapult that propaganda
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:54 PM
Apr 2016


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cui bono

(19,926 posts)
87. Yep. Yet another one of those that Skinner just can't do without.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:00 AM
Apr 2016

Well over the 5 hide limit and still allowed to post the stupidest comments ever.

.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
58. Your Latest Failed Observation
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016

It's obvious to a 3 year old Bernie supporters are voting. Maybe you can have better luck on FOX blogs where you resonate more.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
77. You don't like the 99% do you. Rhetorical. You like to side with big money.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:14 PM
Apr 2016

Do you think they will like you? Do you justify your indifference to those struggling among us by hoping that the rich will like you. Greed is evil. Those that put greed before our fellow people are immoral

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
18. not a failure a smart move
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:04 AM
Apr 2016

if it was a failure then Jerry Brown would not have used "non lethal" projectiles to nearly kill people.
Jerry Brown would not have pepper sprayed protestors.

It may have been blamed on the individuals or administrators involved,
but that is how he gets away with it.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
19. While OWS did have an impact and started discussions, you are right that the lack of a leader
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:05 AM
Apr 2016

and too many issues kept it from becoming what it could. Those problems are solved by Bernie and now it can grow to its full potential! What OWS was best at was in raising awareness of the real cause of the problems in this country, the money in politics and the shadow government that runs this country and cracked down on OWS.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
63. Isn't that EXACTLY the purpose of protests?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:08 PM
Apr 2016
"raising awareness of the real cause of the problems in this country, the money in politics and the shadow government that runs this country"

I always believed that was MY purpose in protesting.

OWS changed the language and the dialog in this country and the world.

For example, In the SOTU before OWS, Obama was all "Its time to eat your peas, and we need entitlement "reforms".
In the SOTU AFTER OWS, Obama was all "Income Inequality" and even mimicked being a populist. The change in just one year was dramatic and very noticeable.

Even today, our nation uses the lexicon given to us by OWS.
Change the language and you change the thinking. Change the thinking, and you change the country.

OWS WAS and still IS one of the most successful Movements of the last generation. They were/are heroes, and I still applaud them for their courage and understanding of what we are fighting.

--bvar22
an old hippie radical protester, and active Afghanistan and Iraq War protestor. Age associated illnesses keep me closer to home now, but I haven't lost the spirit or will to fight for what is right.
I applaud OWS and the new generation that is STANDING UP.

deacon_sephiroth

(731 posts)
22. How did it fail?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:55 AM
Apr 2016

Occupy eschewed any leadership for a reason, and it's goals included changing the national conversation. The article in the OP confirms that it did just that. In addition to giving it credit for making the Bernie Sanders campaign possible. Bernie alone gives me some fleeting hope that maybe America is not too far gone to care about. If OWS gave us that in failure, then I'd like to know what condition would have had to be met for you to consider it successful.

power to the people indeed.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
28. ows changed the national conversation,introduced the 99% vs the 1%
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

ows showed our "leaders" will quickly fire on their own if their GRAVYTRAIN is disrupted

information is power, the more people that are awake the stronger we are

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
4. I don't think it ever really "splintered and faded"
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:55 AM
Apr 2016

how would American Pravda know what the fk Occupy's been doing anyway?

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
51. From nothing to within 200 delegates with 1000 left is hardly "crushing". HRC's money
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:22 PM
Apr 2016

is coming from rich, powerful oligarchs, banks and corporations. I 'll take the R money in this case. BTW, have a source for your assertion, besides R individuals who don't like Hillary?

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
54. 2.5m more votes: Superdelgates ahead: Won more states: Their is no
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:26 PM
Apr 2016

where Sanders is even close to her.

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
65. No link for your assertion? Thought so. Regardless of whether Bernie wins the nom, he has
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:28 PM
Apr 2016

started the process of moving the Democratic party away from DLC crap like the Clintons and shit like Debbie Wasserman-Shits. That alone is a major win. As it is, your delusions aside, Bernie has been become very competitive, and the longer he is in it, the more Hillary slides down. the only lament is the primary season is not longer so more people can get to know Bernie despite the virtual MSM blackout and corrupt voting systems.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
91. What is the proof for that assertion?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:05 AM
Apr 2016

Are any big Republican bankers or business interests supporting Bernie?

He only accepts $2700 maximum donations. So even if some GOP money were to be directed to Bernie, it would be nothing compared to the fence-sitters from the big banks who are really Republicans when it comes to economic issues who are supporting Hillary.

Are the bankers who paid Hillary $250,000 to give one speech all Democrats? Were there maybe a few Republicans in there?

And where are the groups that include Republicans who have paid Bernie $250,000 ever?

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
8. Yeah, well we all know how that turned out and the changes it bought about.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:32 AM
Apr 2016

Just preview of what a Sanders term in office would be like...a revolution running into reality.

boobooday

(7,869 posts)
13. I think the underlying problem is allowing reality to be defined
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:24 AM
Apr 2016

By those who benefit most from the status quo.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
45. Oh my. In calling Senator Sanders an empty suit you have revealed yourself
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:45 PM
Apr 2016

...have fun rubbing yourself, you'll get no rise out of me

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
56. Oh, I see. Hillary selling fracking to a dozen other nations is her plan to stop fracking?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:33 PM
Apr 2016

Just get out. If you want to sell Hillary, be honest about who and what she is. She is pro big money, pro big corporate welfare, and could not give a fuck less about real people. Just say that and you would at least have an ounce of credibility.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
74. Hillary is not pushing for fracking: LA times exlpained Hillary's plan
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:31 PM
Apr 2016

to end tracking: Sanders just the banks he has no idea
how to stop fracking anymore than he knows how to
break up the banks

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
61. LOL, took you a minute
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:45 PM
Apr 2016

Yes, clearly you are a towering intellectual now that you have convinced me that Senator Sanders is an empty suit...Except that darn, that Sanders has been on the right side of policy for more than thirty years. And his stances on policy have not been politically expedient nor easy, but he has been vigilant. But if that is what you mean by empty suit...again, you reveal yourself.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
14. the powers that be crushed Occupy because it frightened them, just like Bernie Sanders does now
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:26 AM
Apr 2016

This peaceful revolution needs to happen to get equilibrium back in our economy and our government. The rage you see at Trump rallies isn't going away until there is some real action to correct the course.

deacon_sephiroth

(731 posts)
23. I DO know how it turned out, do you?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:02 AM
Apr 2016

It turned out that thousands of people in thousands of locations took to the streets to fight for change

It turned out that the national conversation changed when INEQUALITY coverage and analysis quadrupled across all major media following the movement

It turned out that (as mentioned in the OP's link) the movement made the Bernie Sanders campaign possible.

It turned out that Hilary is having to mimic his message to try and match his rising popularity and staunch her own hemorrhaging support.

The conversation changed, social media changed, the primaries changed, and if the movement puts Bernie in the driver seat, together we'll run headlong into your cynical reality and you'll find it's not the insurmountable obstacle you've let yourself be cowed into believing. There's one thing that can defeat it and it's CHANGE... it's what we do.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
83. Were you one of the DU'ers laughing and high-fiving over people getting hosed with pepper spray?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:24 PM
Apr 2016

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
21. The spirit of OWS was here the whole time
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:50 AM
Apr 2016

The establishment doesn't get it- they think they can destroy ideas just by making people go away. Unless you kill them, those people are still there, and still believe in the things that made them rise in the first place.

We are the 99%!

 

Zephyrbag

(20 posts)
71. I'm also in Eugene.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:16 PM
Apr 2016

The first Bernie campaign headquarters in Oregon is about 1/2 mile from my house. He's a real champion of the people.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
35. Rather condescending language in the article, IMHO ....
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

"... splintered and faded ..." & "... getting the band back together ... "


LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
43. We all know what side Hillary stands with
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016

With apologies to cartoonists Clay Bennett and Steve Breen for the edit,

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
62. I actually think Occupy just merged into the main stream of thought and consciousness.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:24 PM
Apr 2016

While there may be some die-hard occupiers still active, to my mind their ideas have just simply become mainstream in most awake Americans.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
89. I would have joined them
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:05 AM
Apr 2016

in my home state but I didn't want to get arrested while my spouse was going through the naturalization process to become a citizen. That's the only reason I stayed home. I believe many were on the OWS side but couldn't risk losing their jobs since they were so scarce back then in 2011.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
64. awesome sauce
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:28 PM
Apr 2016

But i'm sure the authoritarian crowd here at DU will shit all over occupy a second time....

Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

snot

(10,530 posts)
70. Just want to add, though I've never researched it, I AM aware that,
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:07 PM
Apr 2016

in addition to the other impacts Occupy had on general awareness, after the camp evictions, many Occupiers continued to do important work with big impacts; e.g.:

1) The Occupy SEC committee submitted massive and excellent comments on the Dodd-Frank regulations, with effects that Wall St. has not yet managed to fully undo;

2) Last I looked, Occupy Sandy seemed to be doing more to help Hurricane Sandy victims than most or all the other governmental and other agencies; and

3) The Strike Debt offshoot of Occupy, a.k.a. Rolling Jubilee, has been buying up student debt at the steeply discounted prices available to collection agencies and the like and then cancelling it.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
76. What is 48,000 times 35.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:12 PM
Apr 2016

A: 1,680,000 If everyone in that rally talks to 35 people face to face and gets them to commit to voting we can see a real uptick in the number of people that will vote for Bernie.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
85. This is as it should be.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:09 AM
Apr 2016

They were a righteous group.

I remember photos of Wall Street denizens looking down from several stories up, laughing at OWS.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
90. Fantastic! It's not easy, all that happened to Occupy
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:19 AM
Apr 2016

There was no leader that emerged and anyway the idea was not about leaders.

Sometimes a leader emerges and no one feels threatened by them. Somehow they can take the burden of all of us and still move forward. This is what we have with Bernie, he's suited for the job.

I'm seeing him as a leader of the "movement" no matter what happens. It might be a new kind of structure but this amount of energy and focus has to flower.

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