Slimy Trump Says He Plans To Steal Bernie Sanders’ Platform In The General

[houston16revival]

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Source: Ring of Fire

Donald Trump may talk a big talk about politicians and their scheming ways, but then he openly declares that he intends to take on a popular platform of another candidate. On Wednesday morning with five more states in his pocket, Trump did the on-the-phone circuit of news media, bragging about his wins and beginning to turn his negative attention toward the Democratic race.

Trump was asked about Bernie Sanders and the real estate mogul showed respect for his Democratic opponent, at least in terms of the ways that Sanders has attacked Clinton so far.

“Well Bernie Sanders has a message that’s interesting. I’m gonna be taking a lot of things that Bernie’s said and, uh, using them. I can reread some of his speeches, I can get some, y’know, in many ways, she shouldn’t be there. He said some things about her that are actually surprising.”

“He said that she’s got bad judgement. When he said ‘bad judgement,’ I said ‘Sound bite!'”

Read more: http://trofire.com/2016/04/27/slimy-trump-says-plans-steal-bernie-sanders-platform-general/

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So Trump plans to run to the right of Hillary Clinton, and to the left
of Hillary Clinton.

George W. Bush clung tightly to Al Gore in September and October 2000
with innocent sounding statements that echoed Gore closely.

Don't say it can't happen again.

Hillary Clinton will not get much air space from the media, which is to
say she'll have difficulty delineating differences with Trump.

It's a short article, but be sure to read the whole thing if you have time.

[Kip Humphrey]

1. Trump has been usurping Bernie's platform for months. It has been ironic to watch Trump lead his

Neanderthal, bigoted followers to the left of Hillary.

[blm]

13. It's still a calculated performance from Trump - Sanders was/is REAL.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

Anyone who falls for Trump's act now would be betraying what they claimed they loved about Sanders. At least Clinton matched Sanders on many policy issues and would be the closest to Sanders in nominating Supreme Court justices.

Trump is the most inauthentic candidate I've seen since Bush. He must really think Sanders supporters are as dumb as his supporters. Newsflash, Donald: We're NOT!

[yourpaljoey]

31. Only Trump actually DOES BELIEVE is some of Bernie's platform

1. While Hill said 'this country will NEVER have single payer!"
Trump came out in favor of Single Payer in the past:
""Trump wrote 15 years ago that he supported universal healthcare because “we should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses,” writing that “I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one.”


Trump argued that “we need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan” — a key plank in democratic socialist Bernie Sanders’ 2016 campaign platform, Pointing to Canada’s government-run healthcare service, Trump said the U.S. will “have to improve on the prototype.""


2. Unlike Hill, Trump has made a commitment not to cut Social Security.


3. Trump makes no bones about his disdain for banks (he is a business person,
first and foremost). I think he would LOVE to break them up.

THESE are some of the reasons the GOP hates him.
THESE are some some of the reasons he will shred Hillary.

We better hope and pray Sanders wins.

[liberalmike27]

26. I don't think

You could call one comment, a "Platform."

Now if he does come out for $15 an hour, along with his already to the left of the Hillary position on Trade Agreements, he's liable to have something.

In fact, I think that is what he's going to do, try to run to the left of Hillary, be more populist than Hillary. And if she reverts back to the "free trading," $15 is too much, you can't have health care poor people, you can't have free educations people, Democrats she's run as, I think a lot of Sanders supporter will think about voting for him.

I have said all along in various places on line, that the whole Trump campaign has been a big act, to draw in the rubes, the rednecks, the southern racist types. And he's succeeded. You are going to see a more well-spoken person, with a set of policy positions that begins to embrace the working people that Democrats began to lay down, in the last sixties.

[Locrian]

28. very real possibility

I keep hearing trump supporters say that "at least he's not bought and payed for".

Now of course - he's already IN the billionaire money club - but there is a point about wondering what he really wants: to win (and that means doing whatever the voters want) or wanting to win for ??? the wealthy and his own $$

Or a combination - who knows?

[pampango]

37. "the whole Trump campaign has been a big act, to draw in the rubes" "I think a lot of Sanders

supporter will think about voting for him".

I doubt it. They are not "the rubes, the rednecks, the southern racist types" that so prevalent in the republican base. Perhaps I am just speaking for myself.

[djean111]

2. What was it called when Hillary pretended to adopt or be open to some of Bernie's platform?

Some politicians are slimy. I am told to accept it. I won't, but think it funny that Trump is criticized for doing the same thing Hillary did.

[Locrian]

27. great point

two candidates - both willing to say *anything* to get elected. and neither can be trusted

[NorthCarolina]

35. Campaign rhetoric with no substance or chance of life beyond the primaries. nt

[pampango]

44. Indeed. Not many liberals accept Hillary's adoption of Bernie's platform as genuine. What more

when some RW demagogue attempts to do the same thing? They both deserve criticism.

[Skwmom]

3. Both Trump and Clinton have adopted "portions" of Bernie's platforms. You don't think they

want the true populist to win do you?

[Equinox Moon]

4. To use against Hillary

He is not talking about taking up Bernie's platform. He is talking about what to use against her.

[pnwmom]

5. The Rethug will really love it when he starts pushing single payer and free college.

Not to worry.

[beachbum bob]

6. Socialism issues for a so-called conservative candidate

Will work out so well for him....can't wait for that!!!...the conservative base gonna love that...

[David__77]

39. Socialism is not necessarily a left-wing thing.

There is right-wing socialism too. In fact, I consider that nationalism is a sort of socialism in a certain sense - it's a politics based on the group called nation. Many "conservatives" are in actuality more nationalist in their orientation.

[Plucketeer]

7. If she doesn't lose through indictment

she's gonna lose at the ballot box. Scares the SHIT outta me,

[LynneSin]

21. Indicted for what?

Really?

Indicted for what? Whatever fictitious trumped up stories the GOP and Media have played over and over again in the media even though NOTHING has ever been charged? I would think if the women was to be indicted on SOMETHING it would have happened by now. It's only be twenty years you'd think they would come up with something.

Oh wait, they have - a way to divide the democratic party and make people not trust her.

[Plucketeer]

24. LOL!

SHE'S the one who's devised reasons not to trust her. And it's easy for her 'cause all she has to do is BE HERSELF.

[LynneSin]

32. See this is what happens when I cut the cable on cable TV

I stop watching cable news and just read newspapers and learned to form my own opinions about people instead of having my mind bended over the years. Also helped that I've pretty much avoided GD/GDP for the most part and realize it's all opinions, most formed also from years of cable TV viewing.

I have no problem voting for Hillary or Bernie in the general election. Nothing you can say would convince me to vote for anyone but the democrat come this fall.

[LiberalArkie]

8. Ok everyone knows that Trump has rarely if ever spoken his true thoughts in his rambling speeches

It very well could be that he is to the left of Hillary on most things. We do know that he has no problem with stiffing the banks and investment firms through all his bankruptcies. That may be the main thing that resonates with his supporters is "sticking it to the man" which just about every real working class person feels.

It will get more interesting as we go along I believe.

[zalinda]

10. Especially since many of the Bernie supporters

can't stand Hillary. She makes me ill whenever I see or hear her. All I can think of is "We came, we saw, he died" and that awful cackle. That is one unfeeling piece of 'work', and I certainly did want to use the other word for 'work'.

Z

[houston16revival]

15. Focus on the issues

and how much more damage to the country and the environment that
Trump will do compared to HRC
Don't hit me with the fracking and oil and campaign donations routine.

Think about the National Parks sprouting up casinos and hotels with a big "T' on them

[zalinda]

23. As a lesser, I can't see how much difference

it will make in my life. We always get the short end of the stick. Who cares about the National Parks, we can't afford to go to them anyway. The country and the environment? Have you been to the inner cities? We get waste water treatment plants in our neighborhoods whether it makes sense or not. We have high lead levels in our water because there are lead pipes leading from the main water source to our houses. If you want to change them, it will cost you, the last time I talked to the water department about 10 years ago, it was $1500. Do you honestly think this will change? I don't. We are invisible, unless we are making money for some corporation. Even our fucking food stamps is making money for some bank.

Then there is the poor rural communities, they vote Republican because at least they are Godly people. You do realize that there are some rural communities that still don't have running water or a sewer system. Their ground water may be so polluted that it lights on fire, or just makes them sick with some sort of fatal disease. Democrats look on the poor rural as just plain stupid, and I don't see that changing any time soon.

But keep up the banging the drum, you'll sing a different tune when you end up joining us.

Z

[houston16revival]

30. I would never join you

You are using illogical universal insubstantiation to justify your
defeatist attitudes.

We shouldn't abandon the National Parks because the inner cities are a mess,
we should have a jobs and investment program for homeowners and neighborhoods
to improve their lives. Renovation of existing homes instead of depletion of
farmland that can feed us.

Know your boundaries. You do not speak for me.

[djean111]

29. If you don't think Hillary would be okay with that, you are in for a huge surprise.

Ms "Fracking can be okay, fuck the environment" would sell off everything and anything, IMO.

[houston16revival]

33. Bernie would not surrender the National Parks

and his supporters wouldn't either and neither would HRC

There is nothing in her background that says she would

Distortion is a tactic of the Right Wingers

Don't succumb unless you already are one?

[djean111]

36. Nope. Not a Right Winger. But - I think the Democratic Party has been taken over by them.

War, fracking, the TPP, crushing student debt, means-testing Social Security, more restrictions on abortion - those are all Right Winger things, and guess who is in favor of them? Hillary and the DNC. Too right-wing for me, that's for sure!

[A Simple Game]

42. Let's visualize... one Trump hotel or casino or, 1000 gas or oil drilling rigs? What to do?

There's only one good choice this election and it looks like he may not make it to the finals.

[Plucketeer]

25. SPOT ON!

[bemildred]

9. Bet on it. It's a winning platform, and it will help divide the Democratic Party further. nt

[ChairmanAgnostic]

11. So there will be one democrat running in November after all.

I guess that is good news. But somehow he is as trustworthy and hillary.

[LynneSin]

18. Yes and it will be either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders

Don't buy into that bullshit.

Seriously!

[Boomer]

12. Trump is mentally unbalanced

That's not an insult, it's a description. Trump will never be consistent in anything he says, which is a classic symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Technically, it's not even "lying." Truth is not a relevant concept when dealing with someone with NPD, because it has no meaning to them. Their brain will only process what they need at that exact moment to make them feel good about themselves. Five minutes later they will completely contradict themselves, without any awareness that they're doing it. Their sole focus is on feeding their ego.

Someone like Ted Cruz lies knowingly and consciously. Trump just reacts to his emotional needs.

You judge which is the scarier prospect for our next president.

[houston16revival]

20. Very insightful

I've studied NPD a lot, had an almost-ex that reversed on everything,
could be now, or later, or 6 months apart.

It was a feel good thing? It fits.

[HooptieWagon]

40. Funny, because I see NPD in Clinton.

[appalachiablue]

14. Trump follows & lifts themes from RW radio windbag Michael Weiner, aka Savage

and others (Mussolini?) since he needs additional material to inflame people and also has no knowledge and experience with government and public policy. Bernie's populist message and platform are so instep with the people and the times, it's no wonder his progressive ideas are adopted by those on the right and right-lite.

[LynneSin]

16. Of course he will and there will be idiots that will buy into that shit too

Just like when George W. Bush suddenly became 'moderate' in 2000 to win become just a bit more electable even though he ran to the right in the primaries.

It's all bullshit.

[JohnnyRingo]

17. Trump doesn't say he's going to appeal to liberals

In the article he says he's going to use Bernie Sanders' sound bites against Hillary in the general election. He's basically thanking Bernie for helping him.

[A Simple Game]

45. Trump doesn't need any help to point out Hillary's flip flops and unsound decisions.

The only ones that need such help are her present supporters and it seems they won't use the help.

[PatrynXX]

19. the media loves trump

so expect the same slant Bernie got now on Hillary and people will complain and Bernie we the people not with her will look and shake our head. Welcome to our world. Media paid for it and I guess people bought it hook line and sinker like the Repukes do. naturally Donald would run to the left of her he's a moderate. He was for the assault weapons ban. X_X do'h. He's for abortion, Planned Parenthood. DO'H . It'll be an interesting 6 some months of = vs = . Which might be good in a sports game but not in politics. I went alone in 2004 and voted for John Kerry , knowing he'd lose. Albeit John Kerry's ideas are more in line with mine and still are. I can't say the same about Hillary. Even Obama, most of his ideas are in line with mine. Al Gore same thing. Only reason Bill Clinton was good was because he had Al. Only way I see anything happening is for Bernie to be VP. 1. Not sure he'd take it but then again 2. I don't think he'll run as a third party as much as some of us would like him to. Similar to Draft Elizabeth Warren for a year didn't go anywhere.

[jwirr]

22. The more important question is not what he or her are going

to say but what they intend to do after the election.

[closeupready]

34. He can't do that! Hillary already did!

[closeupready]

38. I will say more seriously, he wants to win even more desperately than Hillary.

And if he does incorporate Bernie's ideas, he will only become more popular - this is getting scary, because we KNOW that Bernie's ideas have been incredibly popular, based on any number of metrics.

[andym]

41. Trump has been interested in protectionism and reversing free trade agreements

Bernie too is for restrictions on free trade. That's where Trump will use Bernie's material on the policy side.

Historically restricting trade has not a liberal/progressive or conservative policy. It is a nationalist policy that has been favored at times and for industries when America was perceived to be at a trade disadvantage.

In the 18th and 19th century, the US was protectionist to develop its industries against Britain which wanted free trade at that time. Just as Britain switched from favoring protectionism to free trade when it became the dominant world power, so did the United States in the latter half of the 20th century. Even George McGovern, one of the most liberal progressive Democratic Presidential nominees, was a free trader.

Now that competition is fierce and other nations are threatening US dominance across the economic spectrum, protectionism once again becomes more appealing, especially in industries like traditional manufacturing where jobs continue to be lost in the US.

[world wide wally]

43. He'll probably use a lot of the anti-Hillary bullshit written in here too

[one_voice]

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