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[elehhhhna]

1. first person to break the under investigation hlass ceiling

[lewebley3]

40. Hillary was cleared by the IG: and the FBI cannot bring charges:

the people in the FBI could be GOP political hacks: because if
they really had something they would says so, and not make up
leaks that cannot be backed up.

[Geronimoe]

47. Oh really?

How often does the FBI release information about an on going investigation?

[JudyM]

49. "Cleared?"

[PatrynXX]

51. Yeah as far as I know they haven't released their findings.

So how can she be cleared. Their findings are expected in Late June so unless you have a Time Machine do tell ... Then there is the Money Laundering investigation by the State Department over the fact that the money intended for the Convention didn't go there and the DNC Convention is short $10 million. I can't raise an opinion over investigations I am simply pointing them out.

[msongs]

2. that the FBI looks at everything as potential evidence is hardly news nt

[JudyM]

4. Declarative confirmation of a broad swath of evidence to include all of her electronic devices

for an investigation is fairly broad. The Hill felt it was newsworthy.

[Thor_MN]

10. Considering The Shill is mostly conservative trash...

[lewebley3]

42. The story about the FBI and Hillary's emails is just empty GOP spin

[pnwmom]

3. Of course it is. Another nothingburger.

[NWCorona]

5. This is the first time that the FBI officially confirmed that they recovered files from Hillary's

Servers and maybe other devices as well. That's the biggest news out of this filing.

[cstanleytech]

9. If you say so "shrug"

Frankly though I think the speculation that some are engaging in with an almost Republican like glee is premature since none of us here can say with any certainty that the FBI is after her and not someone else who might have somehow gained access to her emails.

[JudyM]

14. In a court filing a few weeks ago DOJ stated it's about "her use of the server"...

[cstanleytech]

39. What did they say exactly?

[JudyM]

46. I believe it was in response to a record request; what I was stunned by was the

statement to the court that attorneys general (plural) are preparing a referral concerning Clinton's use of the server. The requested records were involved in that case so they wanted to avoid disclosure. It was a couple of weeks or so before the State Dept report was issued. While the 1st IG would likely be the State IG, I believe the second one is the "Intelligence Community" IG.

[cstanleytech]

53. How about a link to the actual article then so we can see if you remembered it correctly.

Dont get me wrong, not trying to even suggest or hint that your lying about it Judy just I know for a fact people (including myself) rarely have perfect memory especially when our memory is clouded due to being biased against something or someone.

[ReRe]

6. I don't see a big revelation here...

... this just says the obvious, right? Yes, they have her computers/systems which the FBI can use as evidence. Is this just a taunt from The Hill?

[Rafale]

7. Perhaps the terms of service prohibit my comments but I will say

"Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out."

-Robert Graves, I Claudius

[Red Mountain]

8. Either she's more corrupt than Trump or not

It's not the makings of a great campaign slogan but it's all we've got.

Hopefully her troubles will either amount to nothing or force her out of the race entirely.

It's not about her. It's about beating Trump. Or whoever they end up nominating.

[johnp3907]

11. Not enough Clinton email posts around here!

[JudyM]

18. Well, if she'd only conducted her high public office business above board...

[SunSeeker]

24. You mean like not using over $1M in campaign cash to send 10 family members to Rome?

Don't worry, it's not Hillary that is at risk of joining Bob McDonald in the slammer.

[JudyM]

30. LOL deflect, deflect, deflect.

[SunSeeker]

32. You brought it up. nt

[Geronimoe]

50. That is expensive coach seats

and they didn't pay to stay at the Vatican.

[Itchinjim]

12. Bernie still isn't going to get the nomination.

Give it up.

[Red Mountain]

13. Point is to make sure a Democrat wins

That may be a little more complicated than it had to be.

[SunSeeker]

25. The OP is not making sure the Dem nominee (Hillary) wins.

Just the opposite. The OP and you bashing our nominee only helps Trump.

[JudyM]

35. Sorry, no. What helps Trump is having a democratic opponent under FBI investigation.

And your denial of the very serious issue our party is facing because of this is part of the problem.

[Ino]

28. And the Cubs will never win the World Series.

[Sand Rat Expat]

15. Okay, so...

It seems that they're saying any emails or other documents they find on these devices are fair game. This is an earthshattering revelation in what way, exactly?

That was the case from the word go. Either they've got evidence that'll lead to an indictment or they don't. At this point anyone claiming certainty in the matter either way is blowing smoke. The FBI will do what it'll do, and the DoJ will do what it'll do, and the chips will fall where they may.

Even if she's indicted, I'll still support her in November. She wasn't my first choice of candidate, true, but if it's a choice between an indicted Hillary and a "blameless" (*snort*) Trump, Hillary gets my vote any day.

Or if something cataclysmic happens and she has to drop out, which I very much doubt, I'll vote for Sanders, or Biden, or whomever, because this is one of those once-in-a-lifetime elections where the stakes are far too high to sit on the sidelines.

[Ligyron]

58. ^^^^THIS^^^^

[PSPS]

16. BENGHAZI !!!11!!

You should post this in another forum where you can add "Crooked Hillary." Trump will be even more pleased with you.

[JudyM]

19. It's her own doing. These are facts we are saddled with whether we like them or not.

[PSPS]

26. Don't hold back. Say "It's Crooked Hillary's own doing." You know you want to.

"We" aren't "saddled" with anything. You must want "us" to feel so for some odd reason. This non-issue matters only to people who were never going to vote for Hillary in the first place. In other words, the braying about "email!!1!," just like "Benghazi!!11!!," is viewed by democrats as just more partisan outbursts which resonate only with republicans who want it to matter.

[JudyM]

29. Sorry to show your post as being both incorrect and overly simplistic. I am a lifelong ardent dem.

I have put in many hundreds of hours volunteering for "our" party prior to this election. I know the value of our party and it's because of my belief in these values that I voted for Bernie.

Characterizing those of us who chose not to vote for her because of what we view as her trail of assaults on democratic values as being like Republicans is showing an inability to see that these issues are legitimate concerns in the election.

If the concerns were not legitimate, Obama's FBI wouldn't be spending all this effort putting together a case, now, would they?

[Tarc]

33. If the concerns were legitimate, Obama wouldn't be endorsing her

9 more days to work it out of your system. Some Bernie ppl have left, some have FFR'ed themselves, many have chosen to be realistic, stay on and support Hillary.

But there will apparently be a handful that will continue the bitter posting all the way til Skinner's deadline.

[FailureToCommunicate]

36. Really? Not even 24 hours have passed and you're cutting the towline to a boatload of passionate,

new, young Democrats?

Way to go.

[PSPS]

38. LOL. Yes, "passionate democrats" promote the Trump platform. Gotcha. Check.

[FailureToCommunicate]

43. Your reply makes no sense. The millions of new young Berni voters were actually supporting

Trump's platform...(whatever that may be)?

?w=240

[Tarc]

52. The Bernie supporters are fine to come aboard, but they need a bit of a reality dose

Sanders and Clinton have voted the same over 90% of the time while in Congress, but on the issues where they diverge slightly, she will not...and should not be expected to...rush over to endorse Bernie's stances fully.

[grasswire]

57. that is naive

Truly naive.

[SunSeeker]

34. The right wing meme you are peddling us not Hillary's "own doing."

I suggest you brush up on the actual facts if you want to support the Democratic nominee.

Here's a good read:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016159783

[AlbertCat]

54. It's her own doing.

Yes... once again, dreadful decisions and mediocre performance.

[6chars]

17. I'm looking forward to June 16

when we do not have a cottage industry in trying to prove that Hillary will be indicted.

[COLGATE4]

20. One can only hope...

[Itchinjim]

23. Amen.

[Maven]

21. "evidence, potential evidence, or information that has not yet been assessed for evidentiary value"

Which literally describes every piece of information under the sun. And implicates no one in particular.

Keep clapping.

[JudyM]

22. See post #9. DOJ already informed the court the Inspectors General are preparing a "referral" (case

for DOJ to prosecute) regarding "her use" of the server.

[Duval]

41. Judy, we'll have to wait a few more days.

[mercuryblues]

44. I don't think post #9

says what you think it does.

9. If you say so "shrug"


Frankly though I think the speculation that some are engaging in with an almost Republican like glee is premature since none of us here can say with any certainty that the FBI is after her and not someone else who might have somehow gained access to her emails.

[emulatorloo]

55. Judy, as I read it this FBI statement relates to/addresses Leopold's FOAI case

From a couple paragraphs in article. Sorry copy and paste not working on tablet, running to desktop back in a sec

Ah here we go:

The federal bureau's filing was made in a motion trying to kill an open-records lawsuit from Vice News journalist Jason Leopold.

In addition to that filing, the FBI asked the court for permission to offer another secret declaration outlining the steps it had taken to search Clinton’s machine for documents related to Leopold’s request.

I am trying to keep all of these separate (FOIA requests/cases vs FBI Investigation) in my mind.

I know there is overlap but it looks like FBI's purpose here is to push back against Leopold. I don't think it says anything about the FBI's investigation.

YMMV of course, all I can do is speculate and theorize until more comes out.

[Orrex]

27. Big deal. To them, everything about everybody is evidence or potential evidence.

If anything, this makes Clinton more like the rest of us.

[leftofcool]

31. This is hardly news. Another nothingburger.

[Cryptoad]

45. But it keeps the whispering campaign going,,,,

[gordianot]

48. No matter how this comes out I expect Republicans to run on this investigation.

Not indicted (it was a cover up), indicted ( she is guilty for sure), she does not pull out of the race (crooked Hillary), she pulls out of the race (Her replacement will be hounded if they are going to Prosecute or Pardon her), she gets a pardon from Obama (Obama is protecting himself). You think the last 8 years of racist obstruction was bad just wait. Now I agree this is right smear but Pandora's box has been opened and they are eager in Puke town after 30 years pay dirt.

[apcalc]

56. R's investigate the crap out of nothing incessantly,

Waste millions in taxpayer dollars and bottom feed on everything. And that is probably all they will do the next four years at least...