Wife of Orlando shooter, Noor Salman, was with Mateen when he went to buy ammunition

[brooklynite]

Source: NBC News

Tom Winter ‏@Tom_Winter 11 minutes ago
NBC NEWS: Wife of Orlando shooter, Noor Salman, was with Mateen when he went to buy ammunition and a holster prior to the attack
sources say

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Tom Winter ‏@Tom_Winter 16 minutes ago
MORE: It is a possibility that the wife of Orlando shooter, Noor Salman, could be charged in connection with the attack at Pulse nightclub.

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Tom Winter ‏@Tom_Winter 20 minutes ago
NBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE: Wife of Orlando shooter has told FBI that she tried to talk her husband out of the attack and is cooperating sources say

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Tom Winter ‏@Tom_Winter 20 minutes ago
NBC NEWS: Wife of shooter, Noor Salman, says she took her husband to Pulse on a previous location and tried to dissuade him from an attack.

Read more: https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/742737808255766529

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Apparently calling the police in advance wasn't a possibility?

[bunnies]

1. Shes got blood on her hands.

She could have stopped it. OMG.

[scscholar]

56. So you blame the victim

Got it.

[bunnies]

57. Excuse me?

She KNEW he was planning to go kill all those people and she did NOTHING. She could have prevented it. She did NOTHING. Now you say she's a victim? Are you fucking kidding me?

[SpankMe]

2. The story says she took him to Pulse on prior occasions.

Sounds like she was an accomplice. Arrest her and put her on trial for terrorism.

[christx30]

23. Then the frequent visits to Pulse

and the Grindr ect profiles were cover for casing the place. Makes sense. Study the target, know the entrances and exits. Know where the cover locations are.

[King_David]

40. Yes,that makes sense....

[HooptieWagon]

54. It doesn't take a dozen+ visits over 3 years to case the place.

Sheesh...

[BootinUp]

3. I don't know how she is going to sleep at night, swear to god. nt

[MariaThinks]

5. what makes you think she feels any responsibility?

for that matter, how do you know this wasn't a response to the imam who publicly asked gay people to be killed because islam demands it?

[BootinUp]

6. Clearly she already does, by telling the story. nt

[MariaThinks]

10. after 49 people were executed because she did not report the threat.

[GummyBearz]

15. I'm sure she sleeps quite well

She did her part assisting to kill 49 gay people for her religion. She probably sleeps on her preferred side after praying and wakes up nice and refreshed

[Freddie Stubbs]

24. Hopefully in a jail cell

[MariaThinks]

4. why do the initial - one person - always seem to end up having more people involved

san bern and the boston marathon.

if his family thought he was bipolar and violent, should this not have been reported to the police?

It seems that we need to sacrifice people to the terrorists so that we don't have to fundamentally answer the tough questions. An imam spoke about death to homosexuals weeks before this incident.

[ManiacJoe]

31. The police would be the wrong agency to report it to.

Unfortunately, the laws governing mental illness make it difficult to get help for the victims when the victim is not cooperative.

[6chars]

33. the san bernadino killer worked closely with his wife

from Pakistan whom he met in Saudi Arabia a few years earlier and brought back to US with him.

[MariaThinks]

35. the guns used to slaughter were provided by their neighbor knowing that was the purpose.

[JI7]

37. in that case it seemed like it was the Wife who was the one in charge

[vkkv]

7. Is this a "crime by association" though? - that is I believe, not enforceable?

That would be the question.

Crime by association would be a dangerous and scary thing for ALL of us... One step closer to Authoritarianism.

[David__77]

9. Knowing of his and not reporting them to authorities is not mere "association."

If she attempted to dissuade him, she knew of something from which to dissuade him. And, if so, she chose not to report it to the authorities. I'd like to know what exactly she said to the authorities so make a better assessment.

[vkkv]

11. Yes, and I'm hoping that that can be proved.. an accomplice to a crime.

I hope law enforcement can pull it off - if indeed her statements are considered 'sworn testimony'..

[Bradical79]

29. I think her actions would make a case for her involvement likely

She not only was aware of the pending attack, but was with him when he was buying supplies for the attack, and it sounds like she assisted in scouting the club.

[exboyfil]

30. If she did assist in scouting

then she is part of a criminal conspiracy and should be charged.

[MariaThinks]

36. this is terrorism.

and something isn't working as people are being slaughtered. So I hope there are solutions, instead of 'at least it wasn't me'.

[Agnosticsherbet]

51. If she knew about the crime and aided the perpetrator she is an accessory.

[onehandle]

8. The seller of the AR-15 is complicit too.

That gun has one purpose. Killing a lot of people.

I welcome gun nuts' scorn!

[vkkv]

13. Look, people need to stop the blanket 'gun nut' generalization.

I have rifles, slow to re-chamber bolt-action rifles that have a max capacity of five rounds.

I am FULLY against ALL HANDGUNS and High Capacity 11+ round magazines in semi-auto and select-fire "assault" (multiple fire options). Society does not need these.

But don't group all gun owners together and don't cry about all "guns" if you're referring to only HANDGUNS and / or Semi-Autos as most people are doing.
Anti-gun people are not helping themselves by mixing the many types of firearms into one "GET RID OF GUNS". We'll all have far more success by separating HANDGUNS and Semi-Autos from hunting rifles.

We bolt-action rifles owners should not be dumped into the same category.

[onehandle]

16. I lumped nobody into any category.

Gun nuts know who they are.

[vkkv]

25. That's the problem, "gun nuts" do not know who they are. they may joke to themselves

such as 'yep, ima redneck, we all rednecks..', but it's unlikely that they align themselves as a "nut" of any kind.

MY point is that to make gains in controlling guns of the most killing potential = hand guns and hgih capacity magazines, it does not help our more sane side to generalize ALL FIREARM owners as gun nuts. It's very narrow-minded, it is very Trump-ish to do that, like saying "ALL Muslims are terrorists" just like Trump does, we all know it is wrong, and we should attempt to recognize that fighting against ALL firearm ownership, while it is only the hand guns and high capacity weapons that causing near 100% of the killings, is not helpful. Yes, you ARE lumping people into one category and that's not the fastest, nor brightest way to getting somewhere with gun control.

I suppose then that I am a 'gun nut', too. I'm a far-leftist, anti-handgun, tree-hugging, creature loving Californian who happens to own a collection of very beautiful walnut stock bolt-action rifles and a shotgun for target shooting and skeet.

The NRA could and should be deemed a terrorist group for efforts to scare and terrorize people into buying killing machines and advocating their use on other humans.

[maser]

34. so you're a fudd

your guns are evil but leave mine alone. My (fill in the blank) gun is good so it shouldn't be banned. gotcha.

[vkkv]

48. Ms. 5 posts.

Seems likely that you are a previoulsy banned troll. If I'm incorrect I apologize.

It is my opinion that you do not have the thinking skills to separate one thing from the other such as a firearm that can shoot 13.3 rounds per second vs. one that can't even get a shot off in a second. Again, that type of thinking does the anti-auto weapons crowd -including myself- no help in the argument. It's Trump-ish extremism.

[Darb]

42. Right, gun humper is better.

Because, well, they hump them.

[vkkv]

47. Only in your dreams.

[Darb]

50. Uh....no. In reality.

They hump guns. And they want to do it in public...open hump.

[vkkv]

52. You're a little ill, aren't you.. NT

[Darb]

55. Do you support open hump or not?

Simple question.

[vkkv]

58. Open humping is something animals do..

Open carry is something subhumans do.

Open stupidity is what a lot of anti-gun-nutters do.

If the gub'mnt came out and said, 'we're going to outlaw ALL guns and if you possess one it's a 20 yr prison sentence', I would gleefully hand mine over, as would a lot of rifle owners that I know - everyone else would go to jail for a very very long time. Gun crime would eventually drop to near zero, like Australia or Japan.

But, that's not going to happen - Good luck with that. Your hate and fear continues.

[Darb]

61. "Hate and fear"?

I'd call that projection. The gun humpers are generally the haters and the fraidy cats. Anyone who owns an AR is a kook. You can be a gun owner without being a humper, as well you might be. But defending humpers is nearly as bad.

[askeptic]

18. 50K posts and still unaware of the Constitution

If you don't like it, change it, but quit acting as if it says something different than it does and quit ignoring the Supreme Court's decisions. People who support the Constitution are not "gun nuts". I don't want ANY of my rights taken away using un-Constitutional methods.

The seller sold the gun legally and it was purchased legally, and your charge is irresponsible and incorrect.

[ileus]

38. Wrong...My AR's serve 3 purposes.

Saving lives, family fun at the range (competition, and target shooting) and finally hunting.

[Darb]

43. Hunting, yeah, right.

What do you hunt with your AR?

And saving lives, that is so rich I am now diabetic. And family fun at the range? Find a new fucking family outing.

[ileus]

45. Look up the 6.5 grendel and 6.8 SPC

Myself the only other caliber than 223 is 300blk. Kinda weak for whitetail but 200 yards and under with the proper bullet it will get the job done.

As for saving/protecting lives that's just me speaking for the use of my AR.

As for the family fun time at the range, normally it's a quick trip out to the range right after the sun goes down in the summer after everything is winding down for the day.

[Darb]

46. Look up bows and arrows

and hunt like a real man, not like a cop shooting an unarmed teen running away with a pack of smokes.

[vkkv]

49. Some of the loudest anti-gunners are people who are not legally allowed to OWN guns

due to mental illness, violent behavior or a federal criminal...

They get very militant, just as you, not unlike former cig smokers who loathe current smokers.

[Darb]

53. Wrong on all counts.

Again.

[yeoman6987]

41. If the gun seller didn't follow the law then yes

So far it appears he followed all laws so no charges.

[Darb]

44. Morally, the seller is obligated.

He sold a hyper-powerful killing machine to a terrorist and gay basher. If there is a hell, he is headed there post haste.

[christx30]

59. At the time the gun was sold,

the gunman hadn't committed a crime. Hadn't been convicted or sentenced. Unless you want a department of pre-crime. I guess that would be helpful. Arrest and prosecute people before they do anything wrong.
I mean, if you knew weeks ago that this guy was going to be a terrorist, why didn't you warn the Orlando police department?

[Darb]

60. Anyone who makes a living dealing in arms like that.....

is a fucking puke. He sells death. He is morally bankrupt. He will surely burn, if there is such a thing.

[David__77]

12. REPORT: Wife of Orlando Jihadist Knew About Coming Attack; Says Tried to Stop

Orlando gunman Omar Mateen’s current wife, Noor Salman, has told the FBI that she drove Mateen to the Pulse nightclub on a prior occasion and that she tried to talk him out of conducting any kind of attack, officials told NBC News.

Law enforcement officials said authorities are considering filing criminal charges against her for failing to tell them what she knew before the attack, but no decision has been made yet.

Several officials familiar with what she has told the FBI said she was with him when he bought ammunition and a holster. She also once drove him to the nightclub because he wanted to see it in advance, but that she tried to dissuade him from doing anything, the officials said.

Several officials said she is cooperating with the investigation.

http://www.wcbm.com/2016/06/14/report-wife-of-orlando-jihadist-knew-about-coming-attack-says-tried-to-stop/

[Javaman]

14. she's scrambling to save her own neck. nt

[ellenrr]

17. well, shit, prior in every interview, she made it sound like she had nothing to do with him,

and now turns out she knew he was planning something?
jeezz.....

[BootinUp]

20. I think you refer to his ex-wife, not his current wife.

His current wife has not been interviewed by the Press as far as I know.

[ellenrr]

21. oh sorry you're right,

[christx30]

19. This is what Trump wants.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141487668

[ohnoyoudidnt]

22. This is a lot more than acting suspicious.

This is more like an accomplice to mass murder.

[bullwinkle428]

26. So she was driving him to Pulse to case the joint. This destroys the

"secret gay" meme, as far as I'm concerned.

[librarylu]

27. Mateen was abusive

to his first wife. Maybe he abused this one too and she was too afraid of him to do anything, or maybe she "knew her place". Is she traditional?

Quran (4:34) - "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them."

I'm sure more details will be released soon.

[Monk06]

32. She is Tajik and from the sounds of it a Zorastrian Very complicated If she reported him she would

become quickly demised So there's that

Best to concentrate how the FBI was on to this guy and let him run loose The family has open Taliban connections and are allowed to set up TV shows in LA promoting the Taliban and their quarrels with the Pakistan government

It would not be completely out of the realm of posibility that these folks were being used to trace a larger network and it backfired

[Bluenorthwest]

28. Will the DUers who made up stories about how he was afraid his wife would find out he was going

to Pulse now admit they are not best selling authors for a reason? More importantly will they allow discussion of the many unsolved LGBT murders in Florida the last few years? Because the area has more than it's share.

[ileus]

39. Second wife? I thought we'd all decided he was just a mad gay guy

using ISIS as an excuse.