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brooklynite

(94,785 posts)
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 11:41 AM Jun 2016

Hillary Clinton's VP search moves into more intense phase

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — Hillary Clinton's search for a running mate is moving into a more intense phase, according to several Democrats, as aides contact a pared-down pool of candidates to ask for reams of personal information and set up interviews with the presumptive Democratic nominee's vetting team.

Those on the shortlist include Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a favorite of progressives who has emerged as a blistering critic of presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump; Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine, a well-liked lawmaker from an important general election battleground state; and Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro of Texas, a rising star in the Democratic Party.

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, Clinton's toughest primary rival, is not on the shortlist of vice presidential candidates, according to one Democrat.

A small group of Clinton campaign confidants has been sifting through publicly available information about more than two dozen possible contenders for more than a month. But with Democratic primary voting wrapping up last week, the list has been culled significantly and the campaign has begun contacting those under consideration.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/34754b3f14df44a8b46af28158b9e9a7/hillary-clintons-vp-search-moves-more-intense-phase?platform=hootsuite

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Hillary Clinton's VP search moves into more intense phase (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2016 OP
Julian Castro liberal N proud Jun 2016 #1
Why Castro? liberalnarb Jun 2016 #5
He is considered a rising star in the Democratic Party liberal N proud Jun 2016 #42
Hispanic support is already solid due to Trump, negating the need for Castro/Perez OnDoutside Jun 2016 #61
Practically unknown and little experience ... L. Coyote Jun 2016 #16
Precisely! It's gotta be Bernie... itsa no brainer! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #51
I think Clinton wants to win the election, not throw it. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #54
Bernie as VP would tip the election heavily in Hillary's direction... it's not even arguable. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #59
My choice, too! BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #29
My take.. DCBob Jun 2016 #2
What do you like about him besides his age and ethnicity? yurbud Jun 2016 #6
He's got a great bio.. DCBob Jun 2016 #9
When the first praise for him comes from the Chamber of Commerce... yurbud Jun 2016 #38
I hope it's not Tim but Kaine locks up Va, underpants Jun 2016 #8
Yeah, Tim would be good choice.. just not the greatest.. imo. DCBob Jun 2016 #10
ironically, his Spanish is much better than Castro's nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #13
I know Castro struggles with it. Funny! DCBob Jun 2016 #15
First ever US Senate floor speech in Spanish - Immigration underpants Jun 2016 #30
That's really good. I have not heard this before. DCBob Jun 2016 #32
The odds-on favorite, I think. forest444 Jun 2016 #44
I would prefer he stays in the Senate underpants Jun 2016 #46
I hear you. forest444 Jun 2016 #49
Problem is Castro lacks experience and policy heft. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #12
I think being Mayor of San Antonio and Secretary of HUD count as experience. DCBob Jun 2016 #17
San Antonio's mayor is a part-time position, it's a second job. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #18
I have never heard that before.. do you have any documentation regarding that? DCBob Jun 2016 #26
No, but I think Sarah Palin's experience does measure up to Castro's, which is a problem. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #33
I do get your point. DCBob Jun 2016 #36
I think Castro has a lot going for him, but he really does need some more political seasoning geek tragedy Jun 2016 #37
Wasilla has a population of 8,600 NewJeffCT Jun 2016 #62
I just read up on the San Antonio part-time mayor issue. DCBob Jun 2016 #34
Trump kills the whole GOP meme about "career politicians" being inherently bad yurbud Jun 2016 #20
Corey Booker would be poison to teachers. He's a staunch advocate of public school privatization yurbud Jun 2016 #3
The choice is obvious to the majority of Democratic leaning voters Android3.14 Jun 2016 #4
Please don't jinx it! BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #31
What no Joe Lieberman? fasttense Jun 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #23
Lieberman (D) died in 2006. bigworld Jun 2016 #48
Warren is easily a better choice than Kaine and especially Castro. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #11
Regarding Warren, the Pres cannot fire the VP for speaking out, right? TryLogic Jun 2016 #19
VP has a much bigger podium and makes news every time he/she speaks. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #21
VP can also be shut up by POTUS and have her sphere of influence severely restricted. JudyM Jun 2016 #24
White House can ask the VP to be quiet, but they can't fire the VP. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #35
Severely limiting responsibilities is also shutting up, as in, no authority to opine. JudyM Jun 2016 #39
That doesn't stop them from giving an interview and saying stuff. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #41
The real question is, "Who should be #46?" L. Coyote Jun 2016 #14
VP is not much of a stepping stone. TryLogic Jun 2016 #22
Public exposure & international affairs/diplomacy experience. JudyM Jun 2016 #25
If the Bernie campaign should have taught Hillary anything... yurbud Jun 2016 #27
Warren, because let's kill Reagan once and for all BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #28
I think that Tim Kaine would be a good choice. IrishEyes Jun 2016 #40
Castro is the picture definition of an empty suit. BlueStater Jun 2016 #43
Joaquín Castro squirecam Jun 2016 #45
Absolutely -- he's the one pick that would make me reconsider a vote for HRC bigworld Jun 2016 #47
Al Franken. Warren needs to stay in the Senate. Franken's quick intelligence/ wit stuffmatters Jun 2016 #50
donmt forghet Xavier Becerra DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #52
I'm disappointed not to see Xavier Becerra on that list. Firebrand Gary Jun 2016 #53
I don't think it's a complete list. At least I hope no. I agree that Becerra would be a great pick. Metric System Jun 2016 #55
awesome guy. bigworld Jun 2016 #57
Warren or Becerra. Metric System Jun 2016 #56
+1000 Firebrand Gary Jun 2016 #58
Tim Kaine is a poor choice, he voted with the Rethugs on fast track AntiBank Jun 2016 #60
Bill Clinton for Veep! Blandocyte Jun 2016 #63

liberal N proud

(60,347 posts)
42. He is considered a rising star in the Democratic Party
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 02:46 PM
Jun 2016

Was a star at the 2012 convention and gave a resounding speech.

I also think it would also solidify Hispanic support. He is also younger.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
54. I think Clinton wants to win the election, not throw it.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 05:59 PM
Jun 2016

Much as we like Bernie, why McGovern a good thing?

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
29. My choice, too!
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:44 PM
Jun 2016


Great bio and did great things for San Antonio as Mayor, too!

And let's be honest, aside from Hillary Clinton, NO candidate, VP or otherwise, will enter the executive branch with experience about being VP or President. These require on the job training.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
2. My take..
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jun 2016

-- Hard to imagine it would be Warren. An all-women ticket might be a bit too much to ask of the American voters.
-- Kaine's decent but he's like white toast.. no excitement there.
-- Julian Castro is a potential rock star. He could ignite the party and generate tons of enthusiasm. He's our man!

And they look so good together!





DCBob

(24,689 posts)
9. He's got a great bio..
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jun 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Castro

http://www.mayorcastro.com/accomplishments

He has been groomed for this opportunity. Keynote speaker at the 2012 convention. Selected by President Obama to lead HUD. He could lock down Florida and possibly win Texas and Arizona. Lots of potential with this guy. Could be our next Prez following Hillary.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
38. When the first praise for him comes from the Chamber of Commerce...
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jun 2016

that shows it would be tone deaf to pick him.

The Chamber of Commerce is already very well taken care of. We need someone to look out for the rest of us.

underpants

(182,942 posts)
8. I hope it's not Tim but Kaine locks up Va,
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jun 2016

which is a virtual lock anyway, and he has Executive experience as Governor as well as speaking fluent Spanish - he did a year in Honduras (I think) on a mission.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
10. Yeah, Tim would be good choice.. just not the greatest.. imo.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jun 2016

I didnt know he was fluent Spanish.. that's cool.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
44. The odds-on favorite, I think.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jun 2016

Plus, his Senate seat won't be filled by a Rethug governor - and he wouldn't be that much of a loss to the Senate besides.

underpants

(182,942 posts)
46. I would prefer he stays in the Senate
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jun 2016

I worked my tail off on his campaign.

Yes he doesn't have to seek re-election until 2018 and Gov. McAuliffe will be I five until Jan 2018.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. Problem is Castro lacks experience and policy heft.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jun 2016

He would complicate Clinton's attacks on Trump as unqualified.

If he's so talented and such a star he should run for office from Texas and show what he's made of.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. San Antonio's mayor is a part-time position, it's a second job.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016

The city manager has all the real power there. Or at least they did when Castro was mayor.

There's a serious "where's the beef" question with this guy.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
26. I have never heard that before.. do you have any documentation regarding that?
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jun 2016

Regardless you seriously think Trump's "experience" measures up to Julian's??

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
33. No, but I think Sarah Palin's experience does measure up to Castro's, which is a problem.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jun 2016

(obviously intellectually and temperamentally and ideologically she's a million times worse, just talking about paper qualifications)

Remember when McCain tried to attack Obama as unqualified and then named her as his running mate?

The VP shouldn't undermine the core argument against the opponent.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
37. I think Castro has a lot going for him, but he really does need some more political seasoning
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:53 PM
Jun 2016

before he can be ready for the big leagues.

that said, it's Clinton's call, so if she's okay with him he must be solid.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
62. Wasilla has a population of 8,600
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 06:40 AM
Jun 2016

San Antonio has a population of 1.4 million, which is double the population of Alaska.

HUD has more employees than Wasilla has citizens.

Castro went to Stanford and got his JD from Harvard. Sarah Palin went to a branch of the University of Idaho with a degree in communications.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
34. I just read up on the San Antonio part-time mayor issue.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jun 2016

So yes, you are clearly correct about that. I had no idea. I still think Castro is an excellent candidate.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
20. Trump kills the whole GOP meme about "career politicians" being inherently bad
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jun 2016

Maybe people will realize "career politician" means someone who knows what they are doing.

No one ever says "I don't want a "career doctor" treating my cancer," or a career mechanic looking at my car or a career contractor building my house.

Just get me someone who listens to talk radio hosts talk about medicine, cars, or housebuilding, then bloviates about what he heard in a bar to take care of me.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
7. What no Joe Lieberman?
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jun 2016

Just kidding (is he even still alive?)...how about Rahm Emanuel (he's still alive) or "Jamie" Dimon or Lloyd Blankfein (they have lots of money).

- for those how do NOT have a funny bone.

Response to fasttense (Reply #7)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. Warren is easily a better choice than Kaine and especially Castro.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jun 2016

Castro's elected experience consists of being the part-time mayor of San Antonio.

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
19. Regarding Warren, the Pres cannot fire the VP for speaking out, right?
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jun 2016

I think Elizabeth is more valuable in the Senate... more valuable to progressives and the nation, and Massachusetts.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
21. VP has a much bigger podium and makes news every time he/she speaks.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

Biden's comments about marriage equality being a good example.

JudyM

(29,293 posts)
24. VP can also be shut up by POTUS and have her sphere of influence severely restricted.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jun 2016

Even if they were to come to an agreement on what Warren's sphere of action would be, Clinton could always change it at the drop of a hat.

I suspect Warren has her eye on the White House for future years after witnessing from a safe distance what Bernie has been able to accomplish. She knows she'd have the votes in the future and getting in line as VP would give her a better portfolio of executive experience. It's a win-win for Clinton because she can completely control Warren if she's VP, as well as wrangling in far more of Bernie's supporters.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
35. White House can ask the VP to be quiet, but they can't fire the VP.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jun 2016

And Biden is proof they can't shut the VP up.

JudyM

(29,293 posts)
39. Severely limiting responsibilities is also shutting up, as in, no authority to opine.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jun 2016

Including being assigned to some vanilla responsibilities that require attention.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
14. The real question is, "Who should be #46?"
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jun 2016

45 needs to pick the best person to be President in 2024. So, born after 1960.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
27. If the Bernie campaign should have taught Hillary anything...
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:41 PM
Jun 2016

it's that swing voters and even some conservatives respect politicians who actually stand by their beliefs over the decades even when their beliefs offend the very wealthy.

When the state someone is from and their gender and/or ethnicity is the most notable thing about them, they do not fit that profile.

BeyondGeography

(39,385 posts)
28. Warren, because let's kill Reagan once and for all
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Tue Jun 21, 2016, 02:14 PM - Edit history (1)

The Republicans are basically asking us to crush them. I say, for the good of the country, we take them up on it.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
40. I think that Tim Kaine would be a good choice.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jun 2016

I looked over the list of potential vice president candidates on wikipedia. There are many good choices. Whoever he or she may be, I will enjoy watching them destroy what ever psycho Trump picks as his vice president when they debate each other.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
43. Castro is the picture definition of an empty suit.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jun 2016

Never been a governor or served in Congress. Just a figurehead position as mayor of SA and HUD Secretary. It makes me sick that he's even being considered.

bigworld

(1,807 posts)
47. Absolutely -- he's the one pick that would make me reconsider a vote for HRC
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jun 2016

She needs to pick the best qualified person. Period. And he is most definitely not ready to be president at this point in his life.

I just don't understand his appeal.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
50. Al Franken. Warren needs to stay in the Senate. Franken's quick intelligence/ wit
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jun 2016

and watchability as VP would help Clinton and the Dem Party enormously. Minn has a Dem Gov so no fear of replacing him with a Rep.

Kaine is determined to keep pot a crime among other retro positions (he's a corporatist, voted for fast track so pro TPP too) He brings zero to Clinton, in fact doubles down on her attackables. He might be "likeable" on the Hill, but so what? Means nothing in this age of obstruction.

Castro is just too young and inexperienced. Brings no support to the campaign or presidency that Clinton doesn't already have.

I agree with Charles Pierce that Warren can be much more powerful as committee chair when Dems retake the Senate. Franken's
increased visibility as VP, that would be an increased benefit to our Party & Clinton's presidency.

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
60. Tim Kaine is a poor choice, he voted with the Rethugs on fast track
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:44 AM
Jun 2016

total 3rd way DLCer type, pro TPP. Will alienate the progressive base.

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