Bernie Sanders says he will vote for Hillary Clinton in November
Source: NBC News, reported on Bloomberg television
On Morning Joe:
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Bernie Sanders says that he will vote for Hillary Clinton.
Asked on MSNBC's Morning Joe whether he will vote for Clinton in November, Sanders responded "Yes."
The Vermont senator, who has not yet formally ended his 2016 campaign, said that stopping Donald Trump from becoming president must be an overarching goal.
But Sanders also dismissed the idea that he should withdraw from the Democratic race now that Clinton has secured the nomination.
"Why would I want to do that when I want to fight to make sure that we have the best platform that we possibly can, that we win the most delegates that we can?" he said.
Sanders also insisted that his continuing presence in the race is not causing disunity in the Democratic Party.
"You talk about disunity. I talk about involving the American people in the political process," he said.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141499320#post10
Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/bernie-sanders-says-he-will-vote-hillary-clinton-n598251
FarPoint
(12,360 posts)For Sanders to Endorse Hillary Clinton. Time to ' bend the knee" as in Game of Thrones.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Really, nobody, ... nobody should be surprised by an announcement such as this.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)bjobotts
(9,141 posts)Why won't he disclose his tax returns etc and Hillary's paid speeches both seem to be more divisive than informative but I was surprised at how little Bernie makes.
"... It appears that Bernie was embarrassed about releasing his tax returns because of how little he makes. He eats $4 plates of spaghetti for lunch and up until half way through the race his suits were off the rack at "Gentleman's Warehouse" where you get 2 suits for the price of one and each suit is reversible polyester so each suit is in fact 2 jackets, 2 vests, and 2 pairs of trousers. His shoes were from "Payless". He drives a 1981 Dodge Colt. " -Jose Wales comment.
Gives some perspective on Bernie's motivations to continue on to the convention in order to influence the party platform. Clinton seems to agree with Sanders on many of his proposals since they also agree with what a majority of voters according o the polls claim they want.
Here's the link. http://www.weeklystandard.com/bernie-earned-less-in-year-than-hillary-made-in-single-speech/article/2001999
This demonstrates the 2 sides of the dem party that are coming together in this political revolution and the 2 views Hillary will represent in her 50 state political revolution.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)One hour later he came out with a statement saying "in all likelihood" he will vote for her. He's probably seeing how much he can insert liberal policies in the platform given that he garnered more votes for a 2nd place finish in history. Maybe he's also waiting to see if Hillary picks a progressive or centrist for VP.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 24, 2016, 06:11 PM - Edit history (1)
Hillary had more than 17M people vote for her in 2008 and conceded 4 days after the last primary. She also didn't make any demands at the convention and released her delegates so that Obama could be nominated by acclamation. Hillary acted with class and was gracious in defeat.
SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)It all depends on what you are trying to achieve. Bernie Sanders wants a Platform that reflects the obvious choices of the American people. Not like the last election, when Obama ran on Universal healthcare, but we got a bank bale out and Hillary care instead.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Which obviously, due to his age, he won't. He wants to get rid of super delegates and have only open primaries.
I strongly disagree with open primaries. His supporters could have bothered to find out the voting regulations of their states and joined the party ahead of the primaries. Why should anyone who doesn't belong to a party be allowed to decide on who that party's nominee should be? The hell with that!!! Have some skin in the game and join a party, if they want to vote in a primary.
As for the super delegates, I can take them or leave them. Since their implementation in 1984 they have never subverted the will of the people. The candidate who ended the primary season ahead in pledged delegates became the nominee. Sanders acts as if they didn't exist he would have won the nomination. In reality, it wouldn't have made any difference. Hillary is ahead by more than triple the pledged delegate advantage that Obama had in 2008, aside from having 3.7M more votes than Sanders.
Bottom line, I don't get why he thinks that he has the right to attempt to change the party's platform. Hillary didn't make similar demands in 2008, and Obama was only ahead by 102 pledged delegates. If he really wants to advocate against voter suppression, then he should demand that caucuses be eliminated. They are the most undemocratic process of them all.
SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)Party affiliation is at an all time low in the U.S. Look that up. States like New York have closed primaries for the sole purpose of excluding non-establishment candidates like Bernie, who didn't make speeches to, or get money from Wall Street.
People should not have to support a corrupt system in order to be allowed their Constitutional right to vote. The election process should be reformed so that any registered voter regardless of their political affiliation could vote for the candidate of their choice. In New York the state's closed primary process exclude nearly 3 million residents from voting on April 19.
It's a rigged system and everyone knows it, but some people like it, since they couldn't win otherwise.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)No one stopped Sanders' supporters in NY from registering as a Democrat to vote for him in the primary. If they couldn't be bothered to know the voting regulations in NY, that's not the state's fault.
Independents have a right to vote, but they don't automatically have the right to vote on who should be the nominee of a party that they don't belong to. Why should they? Would you walk into the Elks Club, for example, and expect to vote on who runs it? Of course not, you would first have to be a member in good standing.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)But when we don't allow independents in then we are encouraging them to start a major 3rd party. I thought we didn't want to do that.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)C'mon...we fact check here...this isnt FOX News...look for yourself...even DU has it in the news feed now.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)In 2008 Hillary received 17,857,501 votes and won 23 contests. Sanders received 12,956,336 votes and also won 23 contests. How does his total surpass Hillary's????
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016
still_one
(92,190 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Enjoy...
still_one
(92,190 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)negativity is too much fun.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I speak from experience, unfortunately.
peace13
(11,076 posts)The above post breaks the rules and if you are serious, yours does as well.
peace13
(11,076 posts)Best to self delete. The five stages of grief got a hide yesterday and you are continuing the attack.
xocet
(3,871 posts)frequently used against Sen. Sanders, that is how your post comes across.
Is that how you intend it? Sure, it is only implied, but it is a very divisive remark to those who have had such remarks directed at them or at those whom they support.
In the new spirit of civility at DU, would you please retract your comment?
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)This "stages of grief" thing is gratuitous gloating, and an insult to many people in our party. Comments such as this just make it more difficult for Sanders supporters to get over their resentment.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)videohead5
(2,172 posts)He did say he would vote for Hillary.
still_one
(92,190 posts)"Bernie Sanders says that he will vote for Hillary Clinton.
Asked on MSNBC's Morning Joe whether he will vote for Clinton in November, Sanders responded "Yes." "
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)They don't really care how Bernie votes; it's the Bernie supporters they are worried about. He has made similar statements about how he would vote if he didn't get the nomination long ago.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Or will there be lingering resentment that he didn't say this earlier?
Bernie is still carrying on, working hard on the big issues that liberals support--income inequality, corporate money in politics, and health care for all.
still_one
(92,190 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Why is it acceptable for him to campaign, but not for others to campaign against him?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)Many are just attacking him because they resent the fact that he didn't concede to Hillary early on, and that makes them angry. Some seem to be natural bullies who just like kicking him again and again. But, he has now given his support to Hillary. A wider ranging statement of support will probably follow.
However, he is still pushing liberal solutions to issues that are critically important--campaign finance, income inequality and healthcare for all.
barbtries
(28,793 posts)He's asking the people to get involved with their democracy.
DemMomma4Sanders
(274 posts)not workers.....not the middle class, control the media and the narrative.
Gman
(24,780 posts)And have no problem with it.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)I just donated again to his down ticket link. Supporting dems who care about us rthe people!!
Akamai
(1,779 posts)not been emphasized for many years -- the evils of "free trade," income inequality, global warming, bank regulations, the unbelievable college debt weighing down students, increased medical coverage, etc., etc.
Asking him to stop addressing these and other points is ludicrous, I believe.
As one who contributed to his campaign repeatedly, I urge him to continue to focus on these popular points.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)I agree with Republicans 0% of the time.
I will vote for the Democratic candidate. 40% is better than 0%.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)I understand that Hillary is politically adept and taking care to not stray too far from the "possible" but I think that it is important that she feel a constant unrelenting pressure from the left not to drift over to the Republicans in hopes of a groundbreaking "grand compromise."
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Eleanor is one of my biggest influences in molding my political beliefs. In my eyes, the greatest first lady ever, followed Abigail Adams and then Michelle Obama.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Until he officially leaves the race, it's fair game for others to respond to him as a candidate. He has every right to campaign, but so does everyone else.
SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)Yes, but you are overlooking the rules say that nobody can talk about Hillary! However, they are bashing Bernie every day.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)For some reason some on the Hillary band wagon just cannot see the later part of this statement, only the former. Baffling.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)I'm not for protecting gun manufacturers, IMHO.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Making the gun issue number one seems like a loser in the current political equation. Sad but true.
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Human101948
(3,457 posts)And he's too stupid to have a kickback scheme for his own benefit.
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SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-political-and-electoral-reform/
FEELTHEBERN.ORG
BERNIE SANDERS ON POLITICAL & ELECTORAL REFORM
Senator Bernie Sanders demands that the United States elected government represent us, its people. He observes a disturbing trend where the average citizen is disenfranchised, and fears that we are losing what makes America great our system of democracy. Bernie has said:
We are moving rapidly away from our democratic heritage into an oligarchic form of society where today we are experiencing a government of the billionaires, by the billionaires, and for the billionaires.
Loki
(3,825 posts)like Trump. He's a pragmatist, he's a realist, and above all, he's an American. Thank you Bernie.
mucifer
(23,542 posts)instead of morning joe.
longship
(40,416 posts)Never any doubt about that. Not one bit.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)I'm happy I read Bernie's autobiography and understood this of him.
And since my opinion has always been in this election to just follow Bernie's lead, I can now comfortably say I will vote Hillary.
Voting Hillary will not reverse our problems, but it's a best braking system we've got.
First Brexit, next, Trump?
I think not.
SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)OBSERVER NEWS & POLOTICS
The Democratic Party may want to reconsider how they're gambling
By Michael Sainato 02/25/16 12:45pm
Since 2009, the Democratic Party has lost 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats, over 900 state legislative seats and 12 governorships. Although most presidents political parties suffer losses in Congress, Republican gains under Barack Obamas administration have been unprecedented. After the 2014 midterm elections, Democrats suffered so dramatically that the Democratic National Committee organized a task force to review how the party connects their core values with voters. While the rise of anti-establishment candidate Bernie Sanders should serve as a wake-up call, the Democratic establishment has not embraced his candidacy as a means to re-energize their voter base. Instead, leaders of the Party have fallen in line behind Hillary Clinton, who only further alienates the types of voters they should be courting.
Such anti-establishment sentiments are epitomized by Donald Trumps successful emergence as frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, and Mr. Sanders emergence as a viable contender for the Democratic nomination. As former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich recently wrote, these candidates are a symptom of rebellion, not the cause of it.
The establishment is having conniptions. They call Trump whacky and Sanders irresponsible. They charge that Trumps isolationism and Bernies ambitious government programs will stymie economic growth, Mr. Reich said. The establishment doesnt get that most Americans couldnt care less about economic growth because for years theyve got few of its benefits, while suffering most of its burdens in the forms of lost jobs and lower wages.
Mr. Reich continued, arguing thatwith respect to Mr. Trump and Mr. Sandersno matter the results of the 2016 presidential primaries, revolt against the establishment will persist until meaningful reforms are enacted, or those in power are replaced by others more willing to make the changes Americans demand. Such demands wont stop if Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic nominationbut will undoubtably result in Mr. Trump winning the presidency.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)That is what Bernie just said on CBS this morning. He was not asked if he would vote for her, but said he is still not endorsing her. "There is more work and change to be done."
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)DemMomma4Sanders
(274 posts)but Trump is worse.
He specifically stated he is not endorsing Hillary and he will remain in the race.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)the next president nominating three to four SCOTUS justices.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)My conscience simply won't allow it. But I can pull the straight-democratic ticket and do my job without having to do much thinking.
Yes, she will be better than Herr DrumpfenFührer. We can agree on that much.
The revolution will continue. I'm with the revolution. It's the most American thing I can do.
Otherwise....for now... #IMWITHHILLARY!
DemMomma4Sanders
(274 posts)One won't come without the other.
harun
(11,348 posts)Going to wake a lot of politicians up.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Unless Sanders is a nationalist against immigration, how does he benefit from the brexit?
harun
(11,348 posts)It benefits Sanders priorities because Hillary may have to embrace them to win the election.
Meaning she would have to throw the Progressives a bone. If she thinks she can win without doing that, good luck to her.
Democat
(11,617 posts)I think there are plenty of places where they find common ground.
I'm not sure how the brexit may change how Clinton speaks on immigration.
SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)You don't have to be a Nationalist to protect the borders. Every other country does. You couldn't even go to Mexico just to live there unless you could prove you would never be a burden on that country. Countries like Denmark and Sweden have free medical care from cradle to grave, free tuition to college, housing etc...because they are taking care of their own tax paying people.
EU nationals who are currently living and working in Britain will be allowed to stay in the country. They will not deport anyone currently in the country and restrictions will only be for new immigrants. Research has found that immigration had an effect on lower wages, especially for the lower paying jobs.
Sanders has campaigned against the TTP and all the bad trade agreements. This is trade agreements that bypass the public and makes corporations rich, while the people lose jobs and wages go down, they only need us for a market and on election day. All the EU treaties have been illegal, just like our unconstitutional trade agreements. NAFTA was passed without a debate in the congress, surely nobody thinks the Perot and Gore debate was O.K,
George W. Bush's Presidential campaign made fast track part of his platform in 2000. Bush made a speech at the annual Council of the Americas in New York, founded by David Rockefeller. The Council of the Americas played a huge role in the implementation and securing of TPA through Congress. The Trade Preferences Extension Act (TPA) of 2015, gave the Obama administration enhanced power to negotiate major trade agreements with Asia and Europe.
By leaving the EU Britain will no longer be subject to rulings by the European Court of Justice. This court rules on whether member states have broken EU treaties and if the U.S.A pulled out of these international trade agreements we would no longer have to abide by its judgments.
And it is true that a fall in Sterling is not always bad. Exports would be cheaper, and if the EU imposed trade tariffs on British goods those could be partly off set by having a weaker currency.
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)riversedge
(70,214 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Time to defeat Trump.
coco77
(1,327 posts)all of his supporters jump on board if you want to know just do a poll.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)is just too important.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)He is a moral and honorable man. He is determined to see this thought to the convention. I have great respect for him and was deeply moved by his warm welcome during the sit in. Obviously his fellow members respect him!!
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)bjobotts
(9,141 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)We have a lot of work to do to defeat Trump, instead of dilly dallying about nonsense.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)ericson00
(2,707 posts)chapter, closed.
xocet
(3,871 posts)It is also good that he is still trying to shape the party platform to something that will fit progressive ideals better than what it otherwise might.
Also, Sen. Sanders provides potential access to a substantial youth vote that Sec. Clinton was unable to achieve through her initially stated policies.
These potential voters will be needed when the election comes, so this news from Sen. Sanders is very welcome.
SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)You are right and the population is getting younger. The day of the baby boomers is over. I think the revolution has just gotten started.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Let me know when he finally concedes.
sangfroid
(212 posts)Otherwise, so what?