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Eugene

(61,964 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:08 PM Jun 2016

Supreme Court declines to rehear union fees dispute

Source: Reuters

The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a request by public school teachers in California asking the justices to rehear a major challenge to fees that unions collect from non-members on which the court split 4-4 in March.

The non-union teachers, represented by the Washington-based Center for Individual Rights conservative group, launched a long-shot effort to get the court to reconsider its decision. That request was denied without comment.

The decision in March was a victory for unions, preserving a vital source of cash for organized labor.

The 4-4 split, which left intact lower court rulings in favor of a teachers’ union in California, was made possible because the court was shorthanded after the death of conservative Justice Antonin Scalia in February.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-unions-idUSKCN0ZE1O3



World | Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:51am EDT
WASHINGTON | BY LAWRENCE HURLEY
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Supreme Court declines to rehear union fees dispute (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2016 OP
Well, I appreciate the favor Scalia did us. Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #1
. Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2016 #2
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #3
Its amazing really how much one "man" could help the COUNTRY so much by his.........absence winstars Jun 2016 #5
Why do non-Union members have to pay union fees??? AllTooEasy Jun 2016 #4
That's just it AwakeAtLast Jun 2016 #9
What a silly reply StoneCarver Jun 2016 #10
I swear ... I wish the next time this type of whiner suit is brought ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #6
The law would have the opposite effect Dhantesvz Jun 2016 #7
To quote Mr. Potter, "You're worth more dead than alive!" Coventina Jun 2016 #8
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. Yep ...
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jun 2016

3rd time I've found myself saying that in the last couple of days ... but I credit it to the universe, not scalia.

AllTooEasy

(1,261 posts)
4. Why do non-Union members have to pay union fees???
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jun 2016

So if I want to be a teacher in Cali, I must give up part of my check even if I don't want the union negotiating benefits on my behalf???

Just tell non-union members "No money, no benefits". "Good luck negotiating that compensation package by yourself, jackass".
 

StoneCarver

(249 posts)
10. What a silly reply
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 08:21 PM
Jun 2016

Unions cover job titles. If non-Union people, fair share, didn't pay any dues but got the same benefits, it would be the end of unions. Unions have to defend and apply the contract equally, or else they'll get sued.
God if non-Union people could not pay dues And the company could give higher benifits to the non-Union folks until they broke the union, and then they'd slash benifits to all in the job class or title! No offense but you obviously have no idea how this works, and you're probably terrible at chess.
Stonecarver

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. I swear ... I wish the next time this type of whiner suit is brought ...
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jun 2016

A legislator would draw up legislation and call it "The Freedom from Collective Bargaining" bill, wherein ... all employees of companies operating under a collective bargaining agreement shall have the right to avoid paying union dues by opting out of the terms of the agreement. At which point, the employee shall have the right to negotiate the terms and conditions of their employment on an individual basis ... assuming the employer is will to bargain with an individual employee.

Dhantesvz

(12 posts)
7. The law would have the opposite effect
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jun 2016

If such a law was passed any intelligent employer would offer the non-union employee a rate/benefit comparable to the union so as to discourage union membership. Trying to save a few bucks on a single employee compensation will matter less to the employer than getting individuals to leave the union. Union contracts are primarily about the bylaws established; these dictate the interaction between the employer and employee in regards to grievances, punishment, bonuses, termination, pace of work, etc. Often these rules prevent the employer from managing the business in the optimum way, and can harm the consumers. Therefore every business should do what it can to prevent a union from ever forming. This is coming from a former union member who will always support union membership.

Coventina

(27,195 posts)
8. To quote Mr. Potter, "You're worth more dead than alive!"
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jun 2016

Republicans are just shooting themselves in the foot, over and over again, by refusing to seat Obama's SCOTUS pick.

Dead Scalia - the gift that keeps on giving.....

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