Mitt Romney: Obama Campaign Promises As Good As Kardashian Wedding Vows

[onehandle]

Mitt Romney made an unusual dig at President Obama on Sunday, comparing him to Kim Kardashian.

"I’ve been looking at some video clips on YouTube of President Obama, then candidate Obama, going through Iowa making promises," he said. "I think the gap between his promises and his performance is the largest I’ve seen, well, since the Kardashian wedding and the promise of til death do we part."

Romney's comments came at a campaign stop in Council Bluffs, Iowa. The GOP candidate has recently doubled down on courting Iowa voters in a last minute push to win the January 3rd caucus.

The Kardashian reference is one of a few recent attempts for Romney exhibit cultural awareness. The candidate, who is generally known for his lack of pop culture savvy, made a reference to I Love Lucy last week and in May, claimed that his favorite book is Twilight. In 2008, he famously took heat after randomly quoting the song "Who let the dogs out?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/01/mitt-romney-obama-kim-kardashian_n_1178976.html

Doubt there will be a slight bump in youth vote for Obama again next year, but I definitely know they won't go to the polls for this douchebag.

[ejpoeta]

1. one could say the same thing about romney's campaign policies.

[Joe Bacon]

13. The pot calls the kettle black!

But there are lots of fools who will actually swallow that because of their hatred of the President.

[Thaddeus Kosciuszko]

2. "attempts for Romney exhibit cultural awareness."

Cultural awareness...?

[Richardo]

12. I'm surprised he didn't refer to Elizabeth Taylor, Mickey Rooney or Zsa Zsa Gabor.

....or Henry VIII for that matter.

[tropicanarose]

18. hahahaha! Epic! So true.

[treestar]

22. Yeah, like it's surprising for him to know that stuff

The Little People have an interest in.

[christx30]

38. It is funny

It's like he thinks he's people!

[SpiralHawk]

3. Willard's handlers are 'positioning' him against Obama -- as if he'd already won the R nomination

shrewd -- to use occult Republicon strategery to plant the occult seed thought in people's minds that this is all about

Mitty Vs. Obama.

When really, it is still Willard Vs. the Rest of the Clown Car O'RepubliCronies

[Warren Stupidity]

4. Weren't Mitten's grandparents from some sort of True Love Mexican outpost of fundy lds?

He might want to not talk about marriage so much.

[Bucky]

21. Religious bigotry is never a winning strategy. Stick to policy.

[Warren Stupidity]

23. Bigotry? Bigamy? Polygamy?

Just saying one should avoid throwing that particular stone if one's house is made of glass.

[Bucky]

24. Let's take these one at a time, Mr Stupidity

Bigoty: I know of nothing Romney does that's prejudiced against any demographic group (except the middle class, of course). Maybe you could enlighten me. So far, in a field of Newt's racial dog-whistles, Paul's toxic newsletters, Rick Perry's "brothering" of Herman Cain and Santorum's general mysogyny, Romney's not really stood out for hatred (other than the usual Republican contempt for the Bill of Rights).

Bigamy: Romney's one of the few Republicans this year who's only had one wife. He is a member of a church that officially denounced polygamy long before he was born. If you have even a shred of evidence to show he's a bigamist, please share.

Polygamy: See above.

Which brings us back to bigotry: See, the only reason to bring up the topic of polygamy is because of something that Mormons used to do more than a century ago. It makes as much sense to attack Mormons for polygamy as it would to attack Democrats for slavery. After all, 150 years ago, people called Democrats supported slavery. But, of course we changed our minds, just as the mainstream Mormons did over a century ago.

Democrats are at least a political group. Mormons are a religion. So when you start slurring a Mormon for polygamy, based on nothing more than his religious affiliation, you are engaging in religious bigotry. You're dragging religion into a political discussion and using it, without any basis in fact, as a platform for spewing hatred and lies. That is the very basis of religious bigotry--not just pre-judging, but actually slurring a religion based on lies.

You are a bigot, Warren. This is not an insult; it's a factual description of your behavior. I don't know why you choose to throw out the usual liberal standards of (1) opposing religious prejudice and (2) seeking to wall off religion from politics. But I do wish you'd leave the hate-mongering to the Republicans. It's not like Romney doesn't have a dozen other areas on which you could attack him. But of course doing so would require leaning facts. I supposed resorting to religious bigotry does keep one from having to learn facts.

[kurtzapril4]

25. Ummmm...Ever seen that show

called Sister Wives, I believe? It's about a Mormon polyganous family. Mormons ARE currently practicing polygany. Sorry. It's not bigoted to point out that some Mormon men still keep multiple wives. And I'd be willing to bet it's a lot more common than reported.

[Bucky]

27. The LDS that Romney's a part of rejects polygamy and any Mormons who practice it.

Let's stick to the realm of facts and avoid error-based sweeping generalization. The tiny denomination calling itself "Fundamentalist Mormons" do practice polygamy. They are not part of the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints. These are two religions who are radically divided on the very same issue that you and Warren S. are attacking them on.

It's identical to accusing any regular mainstream Muslim, like Muhammed Ali or Fareed Zakaria, of being a Wahabist because there are Muslims. The two religions (fundy Mormons and the LDS) may have roots in the same scripture, but they are anything BUT the same group.

The LDS will excommunicate anyone who practices polygamy. So for all your TV watching, you apparently missed the main point--the family shown on Sister Wives are not LDSers. You are happily joining Warren in religious bigotry. With all the stupid shit Romney believes in and openly professes, I don't know why you have to go and attack him on an entirely fabricated issue.

And for your final point--yes it most certainly IS bigoted "to point out that some Mormon men still keep multiple wives" because you're deliberately conflating two different denominations for the purpose of smearing the LDSers with the illegal behaviors of the Fundamentalist Mormons.

And yet if anyone said that same "they all seem the same to me" approach when it came to Hispanics or Jews or Blacks, what would you're response be? You'd rightly call that race or religious-based hatred. It's hate speech. Calling out Mormons for polygamy--when it's Mormon DAs in Utah and Idaho who vigorously pursue polygamists--is also hate speech.

If you can't stop keeping stuck in these prejudices, please at least have the honesty to quit calling yourself a liberal. Liberals judge people by the content of their character, not based on who their grandparents used to be.

[Occulus]

29. Didn't Mormans shovel a shitpile of cash into getting Prop 8 passed in CA?

Who are the bigots again?

[Bucky]

31. Yes, many of them are bigots. That does not permit you to engage in hate speech.

Good heavens, think through the morality of what you're saying. Your argument comes down to this: "SOME Mormons are bigots against gays, therefor we are justified in spreading lies and engaging in hate speech against ALL of them as a group."

That's not morality--that's tribalism. The whole point of being liberal is that you profess liberty for all people and reject prejudices based on tribe, race, religion, & other factors. People should be judged on what they do & say, not on what they happen to be. This is thte essense of liberalism and of being an enlightened human being in general.

Hell, I'm certain Romney's among those who are bigoted against gays--that doesn't excuse you or me from engaging in hate speech about him. You won't defeat hatred with lies; you only feed it.

[Occulus]

35. Hmmm. Nope, no sale.

I don't have to play nice with people who would pass laws, or see laws passed, that restrict my basic human rights. I don't have to tolerate them, I don't have to respect their beliefs, and I don't have to welcome them 'as a liberal' in any sense of the word. I don't have to compromise with them, I don't have to respect their social mores, and I certainly do not have to allow their poison to unchallenged.

Calling Romney and the Mormon (and Christian, while we're at it) faiths "bigoted" is only the truth, and I will not ever stop doing so.

"People should be judged on what they do & say"

Mormons and Prop 8. They proved their bigotry openly and proudly and I don't need to respect it in the least.

[AlbertCat]

36. That does not permit you to engage in hate speech.

No, but the general nuttiness of Mormons does not prevent anyone from saying that Mormons are as loony tunes as Scientologists or Unificationists or any loopy cult that professes to believe complete bunk. I wouldn't trust anybody who fell for such nonsense. The more common theists are bad enough. There's no need to layer the gobbledygook on.

[Bucky]

39. Perfectly agreed. I'm happy to leave religion out of politics.

That's the easiest way to avoid hate speech. My only objection were (1) the spreading of falsehoods, (2) the introduction of religious questions into a political argument, and (3) the perpetuation of religious hatred. I don't like it when Republicans do it, so I won't stay quiet when DUers do it.

Now some might argue that it was Christians who introduced religion into politics. Agreed. But they didn't do so here in DU, where our conversation was going on and where blatant hate speech was being used. Since the DUer trying to rationalize the hate speech has quit doing so in this thread, the matter's over.

I will only point out to you that among the people who "profess to believe complete bunk" and "who fell for such nonsense" include Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, JFK, MLK, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama. They may be suckers, but I certainly trust them (to a limited degree) to do the right and necessary things for governing the country.

[Warren Stupidity]

26. Romney's grandparents were polygamous.

We aint talking 150 years ago. If he is going to bring up marriage, which he does quite regularly when performing his republican obligation to denounce homosexuality, his religious traditions are fair game.

Mormons don't get a pass on marriage equality.

Oh and no, I am not bigoted, I think all religions are just about equally stupid. But thanks for taking it to the personal level. I always enjoy getting down in the mud.

[Bucky]

30. Ah, the old "Grandfather Clause". So you're keeping company with racists?

By the way, you're wrong. Romney's grandparents Gaskell and Anna Pratt Romney were monogamous. They were married in Mexico but moved to the US to raise Mitt's father, George. His mother's parents were also monogamous--Harold LaFount and Alma Robison were both mainstream Mormons who never lived in Mexico.

I guess you just assumed that his grandparents were polygamists because they were Mormons. That is categorically bigoted (and historically ignorant) behavior. I wish you would quit engaging in hate speech. It's against the DU rules. Please don't tell me that youre one of those people who thinks the rules against hate speech on DU don't apply when we're hating on people whom we disagree with.

By the way, saying that you regard all religions as equally stupid doesn't excuse you for singling out one religion in particular to spread lies about. It's your categorically bigoted behavior (he lies and hate-speech directed at one particular religious minority) and not your personal beliefs, that are at question here. You can believe what you want. But the rules explicitly state that DU is not to be used as forum for spreading hate speech and bigoted propaganda.

[Warren Stupidity]

33. Right, great grandfather. Whatever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helaman_Pratt
founder of one of the major fundamentalist lds groups.

Again, what I said, and what I will continue to say every time Mittens opens his yap about marriage, is that he should think twice about going on about how some sky being decreed one man-one woman, seeing as how his family had quite a different idea about what their sky being decreed not so long ago. Apparently sky beings change their sky being minds quite a lot.

But do keep up the threats, they are very persuasive.

[Bucky]

34. For someone who rejects religion, you sure seem to rely on the "sins of the father" argument

I just don't see how you can be comfortable with saying that something that Romney's great-grandfather did is a sound basis for attacking Mittens now--let alone when it's something that the last three generations of Romneys have rejected.

Now I wholeheartedly agree with you that anyone who wants to base laws on what their gods, faith, or religion dictate should "think twice." In fact, I'll go one further--they should abandon that train of thought altogether. Laws should be based on human rights and social ethics and this generation's responsibilities to the future, but never on religion.

Religion doesn't belong in politics, ever, and its obnoxious whenever the Republicans drag their views on God into the public sphere. This is where we seem to part ways. I think it's a bad idea to ever bring religion into politics. You continue to bring up 3-generation old disputes into a discussion about today's issues.

I certainly didn't want to threaten you. My intent was to remind you of DU rules and the prohibition against hate speech. I strongly oppose prejudice and bigotry and misinformation, because I've seen it used against me and my friends. I find it particularly irksome when it comes from my side of the political spectrum. Hatred is always wrong, even when it's directed against those whom we disagree with. I'm sorry that you see it differently.

[Gringostan]

5. Kim Kardashian may be an untalented

Kim Kardashian may be an untalented, gold digging publicity hound; but I would trust her long before I would trust mittens. Also, I would much rather have KK at my house for a few months then mittens in the White House for 4 years. I know what KK could take, but mittens and his cleptocrats could clean us all out.

[no_hypocrisy]

6. There goes the Kardashian voting block . . . . .

[66 dmhlt]

7. Two sites Document Romney's Flip Flops ...

This one keeps a running tab, and it's up to 77:
http://www.multiplechoicemitt.com/

This one is a fun Multiple Choice test on Romney's positions (HINT: You can't go wrong with "All of the Above&quot :
http://www.democrats.org/which-mitt/quiz

[Kahuna]

8. Keep saying stupid, petty stuff like that. It helps the president... Look

at how well it worked out for mccain and palin.

[truthisfreedom]

9. Once again, an attempt at emasculating a President who has killed terrorists.

mittens has bitten off more than he could ever chew.

[Xipe Totec]

10. I think his magic shorts are on too tight nt

[rocktivity]

11. One rimshot, coming right up!

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[Rene]

14. that statement shows what a nasty man Mittens truly is

all he has in his kit bag are slams.....he's not a person of substance or anyone I'd ever want to know

[otohara]

15. Really Willard?

can't wait for him to say this shit while he's standing next to the president - corny remarks and that stupid nervous laugh are going to go over like a led balloon.

[denverbill]

16. And the bad things about Romney is he might actually keep some of his campaign promises.

[deacon]

17. Romney goes Vaudeville. n/t

[Bossy Monkey]

19. You go, Shecky n/t

[Bucky]

20. He's got a sharp joke writer on his staff. He's doing a lot of zingers lately.

No wonder he's frontrunner in the parade of clowns.

[ingac70]

28. McCain pulled the same shit, comparing Obama to Paris Hilton....

then proceeded to make a reality TV show out of the GOP by selecting Caribou Barbie.

[Vogon_Glory]

32. Invalid Comparison. At Least The Kardashian Sisters Mean To

Invalid comparison. At least the Kardashian sisters seem to actually try to carry through with their vows when they wed (or re-wed) with their various spouses--unlike Republican politicians making promises to the general electorate.

[KeyserSoze87]

37. Why is Mitt Romney so obsessed with President Obama?

I mean, I know he's probably going to be the nominee who will run against him, but this is ridiculous. Whenever he says anything, he always bashes Obama in some way. Pretty much his entire campaign has revolved around making our president look bad.

[surrealAmerican]

40. Twilight?

What is he, an 11-year-old? I have a very hard time believing that if he read Twilight, and would still say that.

As to the Kardashian reference: I just have to wonder who's writing this material for him. They must be almost as clueless as he is.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

41. This sounds like part of the RNC strategy that was discussed here a couple of days ago.

They're already underway with it it would seem.


BTW Mitt has been making a lot of comparisons between Obama and various historical figures lately. Anybody want make a $10K bet that we don't make it to the end of October without Mittens (or the RNC) making an Obama/Hitler comparison?