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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:31 PM Aug 2016

Trump Suggests Shooting Clinton, Her Supreme Court Picks, Or Both

Source: Huffington Post

Donald Trump on Tuesday warned his supporters that if Hillary Clinton were elected president and appointed members to the Supreme Court, there was nothing anyone could do about it – but then added that, given the Second Amendment, maybe there was.

“If she gets to pick her judges ― nothing you can do, folks,” Trump said at a Wilmington, N.C., rally with a shrug. “Although: the Second Amendment, people, maybe there is. I don’t know.”

What Trump was actually suggesting was not clear. However his veterans affairs adviser found himself in hot water when he said that Clinton should face a firing squad over her use of a private email server.

Trump’s campaign did not respond to queries about his remark, but at least one person attending the rally appeared to sense the comment was out of bounds.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-clinton-shoot_us_57aa2f6de4b0ba7ed23dd652

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Trump Suggests Shooting Clinton, Her Supreme Court Picks, Or Both (Original Post) onehandle Aug 2016 OP
WTFH hibbing Aug 2016 #1
Oh he does know, he just suggested people supporting the second amendment.. dubyadiprecession Aug 2016 #57
It's not about anarchy PJMcK Aug 2016 #81
No doubt about it! Humpty Trumpty just fell from the wall. forest444 Aug 2016 #2
Yes, that was the moment media realized they couldn't portray her as a credible candidate emulatorloo Aug 2016 #11
Right. This is a MAJOR red line, and exactly what candidates in banana republics do. forest444 Aug 2016 #18
Media needs to do their damn job on this one emulatorloo Aug 2016 #20
Hear, hear. forest444 Aug 2016 #24
Fortunately, Trump's supporters don't have the balls skepticscott Aug 2016 #36
It only takes one PJMcK Aug 2016 #83
If they weren't cowards and bunglers to a man skepticscott Aug 2016 #108
HELLO Skittles Aug 2016 #120
Um, we're in the same room skepticscott Aug 2016 #124
you're acting like it would courage to be an assassin Skittles Aug 2016 #129
I wouldn't count on that. volstork Aug 2016 #85
LOL Skittles Aug 2016 #111
That's for damn sure... Aristus Aug 2016 #117
No...where the fuck did you get that? skepticscott Aug 2016 #118
really? Skittles Aug 2016 #119
Balls aren't needed central scrutinizer Aug 2016 #123
Wow...gee...I never would have known that skepticscott Aug 2016 #125
so then why the BALLS comment? Skittles Aug 2016 #130
Agree !! Kathy M Aug 2016 #97
It's called sedition. roamer65 Aug 2016 #3
Exactly right Patiod Aug 2016 #145
Unfortunately, I can guarantee that this anoNY42 Aug 2016 #4
... SunSeeker Aug 2016 #19
CNN is talking about that right now - and that idiot Trump surrogate is sticking up for him. George II Aug 2016 #5
I'm glad they're at least discussing it. forest444 Aug 2016 #10
The Rump apologist on CNN said Ligyron Aug 2016 #63
Right? And the idiot news woman didn't ask why Trump said that would be adigal Aug 2016 #77
Duncan Hunter Junior. As a Californian, let me be first to apologize for him. calimary Aug 2016 #104
Come on, guys. He's "joking." Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #6
The Secret Service should jokingly detain him and take him in for a critical evaluation... 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #12
ABSOLUTELY! Mme. Defarge Aug 2016 #54
Or just conveniently be unavailable for a couple hours Bob Buttons Aug 2016 #132
I believe his private security crew works alongside the Secret Service. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #135
his word for it is "sarcasm". unblock Aug 2016 #13
When you knowingly plant a seed in people's deranged minds, it is not really a joke. appleannie1 Aug 2016 #28
Exactly, and he has lots of right win nutjobs with mental issues, amongst his followers. You don't OnDoutside Aug 2016 #89
True that. fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #106
Are you joking TC? SCVDem Aug 2016 #48
Of course it isn't. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #49
Unfortunately, Mark Halperin and his fill-in co-host, Donny Deutsch, are spinning it that way. calimary Aug 2016 #105
The guy behind him was totally apalled. lark Aug 2016 #146
Doesn't matter whether he calls it "joking" or not Texin Aug 2016 #58
Of course it doesn't matter. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #67
If he said something like that in a TSA line he'd never see the inside of a plane. nolabear Aug 2016 #99
In today's world, one simply does not joke about shooting another human. In_The_Wind Aug 2016 #7
Nastiness personified. lark Aug 2016 #8
Cheney is smart get the red out Aug 2016 #29
Hey Donnie, First, Take A Big Step Back.... Grassy Knoll Aug 2016 #9
Hahahaha a la izquierda Aug 2016 #42
Twitter is blowing up over this VMA131Marine Aug 2016 #14
It's as clear as Sharron Angle bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #15
When Sharron Angle invoked "Second Amendment remedies," it cost her the election. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #16
WOW.....I thought I had heard it all....but NOOOOOOOO..here is more!!!!!!!!!!! Stuart G Aug 2016 #17
Just saw this on Twitter PasadenaTrudy Aug 2016 #21
What seriou piece of shit. angrychair Aug 2016 #22
Color me shocked. They're actually leading with it. calimary Aug 2016 #103
I agree Cali angrychair Aug 2016 #109
It was a mixed reaction in the crowd Bob Buttons Aug 2016 #134
This is a huge story Johnny2X2X Aug 2016 #23
Yep. It's the headline at ABC News right now. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #45
absolutely, this should fucking finish him off, for good. Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #93
*should*, but sadly, you know it probably won't. Bob Buttons Aug 2016 #133
A new low, even for this piece of talking garbage Politicub Aug 2016 #25
Total POS JDC Aug 2016 #26
Welcome to DU, JDC. calimary Aug 2016 #107
Houston and Louisiana Shootings Show... TomCADem Aug 2016 #27
Asshole vadermike Aug 2016 #30
Fuck this big Cheeto. nt TeamPooka Aug 2016 #31
From a guy MFM008 Aug 2016 #32
Trump didn't "appear" to do it, dobleremolque Aug 2016 #33
Trump hints at assassination of #HillaryClinton by gun rights supporters #2ndamendment riversedge Aug 2016 #34
He really went there randr Aug 2016 #35
I thought everyone siad Putin is his close friend Geronimoe Aug 2016 #37
I'm beginning to think he's deliberately sabotaging his own run. closeupready Aug 2016 #38
"Stochastic Terrorism" is what this is. Plain and Simple. KeepItReal Aug 2016 #39
I hope once this is all over and Hillary is firmly seated in the Oval Office geardaddy Aug 2016 #40
Is the media so myopic, the candidate so deranged, and Americans so overwhelmed, that a candidate FailureToCommunicate Aug 2016 #41
Report from the Guardian geardaddy Aug 2016 #43
what the actual F*CK mindfulNJ Aug 2016 #44
Gabby Giffords might have a thing or two to say about this. n/t Saviolo Aug 2016 #46
That goddamn seditious traitor MynameisBlarney Aug 2016 #47
Agree 100% apcalc Aug 2016 #51
Can you imagine kimbutgar Aug 2016 #50
Some dare call it,,,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2016 #52
He'll claim it was a joke. Too bad... Beartracks Aug 2016 #53
Of course he will. He always does. Texin Aug 2016 #72
my concern that he would stick to the teleprompter and sound like a rational adult was ill founded renate Aug 2016 #55
If I had written such remarks on a internet forum, you can bet your ass Purveyor Aug 2016 #56
What does he have to do or say? mgardener Aug 2016 #59
I'm sure they've already deemed him unfit for office...they just don't know.... Moonwalk Aug 2016 #88
I hope it's been reported to the Secret Service at least several hundred times. 47of74 Aug 2016 #60
Considering they were five feet away... brooklynite Aug 2016 #62
Why wasn't he cuffed immediately? truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #64
Has he heard about Gabby Giffords and palin? bearssoapbox Aug 2016 #61
Security briefings jumptheshadow Aug 2016 #65
I'll declare what no one on this thread seemingly has the intestinal fortitude to declare. Trust Buster Aug 2016 #66
Sure sounded to me like he's trying to get her killed. calimary Aug 2016 #122
For weeks before Rabin's assassination in Israel, chants of "death to Rabin" we're heard and Trust Buster Aug 2016 #127
The man is insane Jim Dandy Aug 2016 #68
Welcome to DU, Jim Dandy. calimary Aug 2016 #112
Thank you! Jim Dandy Aug 2016 #115
And YOU TOO could have millions and millions of followers... True Dough Aug 2016 #147
the 1st presidential candidate that should be in a FBI cell. pansypoo53219 Aug 2016 #69
The issue is that if ANY Democrat "joked" about assasinating anyone, that would be the end of Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #70
Just watch DFW Aug 2016 #71
"The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of people who disagree with me politically Rocknrule Aug 2016 #73
On CNN now Johnny2X2X Aug 2016 #74
It was clear. He said it would be a horrible day adigal Aug 2016 #75
I think he may have to drop out. Didn't think he would before, but this could do it. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #76
No matter how the matter is parsed... sanatanadharma Aug 2016 #78
This topic is all 5 trending now threads on DU nt IronLionZion Aug 2016 #79
WaPo: Trump appears to encourage gun owners to take action if Clinton appoints anti-gun judges mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2016 #80
Hillary and SCOTUS simply cannot 'abolish the Second Amendment'. Stonepounder Aug 2016 #82
This has to be criminal. A major party candidate hinting at inciting deadly force if they FighttheFuture Aug 2016 #84
Private citizen did something like that, it would trigger a visit from the Secret Service/FBI. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2016 #87
The media should shut him down. They have no obligation to broadcast these bund meetings. PSPS Aug 2016 #86
Don't let him get away with it. It was intentional. He knows what it means. He'll play innocent... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #90
"What Trump was actually suggesting was not clear." Martin Eden Aug 2016 #91
When you have to say that, you've lost. yardwork Aug 2016 #96
Is ANYBODY truly surprised by this? BigDemVoter Aug 2016 #92
This is proof positive that Trump has been punking us with his campaign LynneSin Aug 2016 #94
I think that's unprecedented. yardwork Aug 2016 #95
I was just going to post this. Holy shit! WHAT is that man thinking? PatrickforO Aug 2016 #98
What the bloody he**???!!!?? AllyCat Aug 2016 #100
All right. That's enough for me. neeksgeek Aug 2016 #101
Thank you, neeksgeek. calimary Aug 2016 #114
Thank you and thank you for calling the Repug office. More need to do that. riversedge Aug 2016 #136
I'm tempted to hit Free Republic or Discussion to see how the half-wits and dullards LanternWaste Aug 2016 #102
I don't hate my computer... 47of74 Aug 2016 #143
He is amping up his claim that he could... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #110
American media refuses to print his last line after "I don't know" amazona10 Aug 2016 #113
I don't remember another Presidential nominee who advocated assassinating his opponent. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2016 #116
A few years ago, one of those gun-crazed teabaggers came right out and asserted that Aristus Aug 2016 #121
We had a Senate candidate six years ago who advocated "2nd Amendment remedies" calimary Aug 2016 #126
Unbelievable colsohlibgal Aug 2016 #128
There must be repercussions for bile. lonestarnot Aug 2016 #131
He sure says "I don't know" a lot. Also... Beartracks Aug 2016 #137
His last grasp to get out of running....what a useless turd. ileus Aug 2016 #138
This is what the destruction of the GOP looks like. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #139
Shouldn't the Secret Service be all over this? PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #140
18 U.S. Code § 879 47of74 Aug 2016 #142
The Insanity train keeps on chugging. sarcasmo Aug 2016 #141
If the them of his campaign is "Let's Lower the Bar" truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #144

hibbing

(10,109 posts)
1. WTFH
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:33 PM
Aug 2016

This country, I swear. I wish I would have noted the date, but I remember exactly where I was when I was listening to Hannity on the radio saying Obama must be stopped by any means necessary.

Peace

dubyadiprecession

(5,720 posts)
57. Oh he does know, he just suggested people supporting the second amendment..
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:40 PM
Aug 2016

Trump is suggesting that someone out there should shoot hillary. I'm sure some of his supporters are capable of murder. Trump is about anarchy and hannity shares the same mindset.

PJMcK

(22,047 posts)
81. It's not about anarchy
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:33 PM
Aug 2016

Sorry if this sounds didactic, dubyaiprecession. Anarchy, noun, a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.

Donald Trump is all about authority where he is the one in control. He has stated that he'll effectively throw out the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, ignore the separation of powers and very possibly use nuclear weapons. He really wants to be a dictator and control all the levers of power. If elected president, it's likely he would curtail most of our rights and expand the police militarily in order to enforce his rule. This is not anarchy, in fact, it's quite the opposite.

Sean Hannity, of course, is a jackass and needs a powerful father figure to tell him what to do.

Both of them are idiots.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
2. No doubt about it! Humpty Trumpty just fell from the wall.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:34 PM
Aug 2016

This is the very thing Sharron Angle did with her call for "Second Amendment solutions" in 2010 (which, thankfully, cost her the race).

forest444

(5,902 posts)
18. Right. This is a MAJOR red line, and exactly what candidates in banana republics do.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:46 PM
Aug 2016

I certainly hope Hillary offers an official response to what basically amounts to a call for her assassination. She would be more than entitled, given what Trumpolini just said.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
24. Hear, hear.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:52 PM
Aug 2016

If Hillary or ANYONE around her is injured in any kind of attack, Trump will have blood on his hands.

The news media should know by now that he'll probably never apologize for those remarks; at most he'll issue a lukewarm "clarification" (and I doubt even that). It's incumbent on them to hold him accountable now.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
36. Fortunately, Trump's supporters don't have the balls
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:09 PM
Aug 2016

to actually do something like this. Trump is a bully, but they're not even that...they let someone else do their bullying for them. Cowardice on top of cowardice.

PJMcK

(22,047 posts)
83. It only takes one
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:37 PM
Aug 2016

Keep in mind that most presidential assassins and would-be killers were loners with a political perspective behind their plan. This is specifically why Donald Trump's comments are especially abhorrent. All he has to do is incite just one crazy person.

Donald Trump is a despicable man. He's also an idiot.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
108. If they weren't cowards and bunglers to a man
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:44 PM
Aug 2016

you have to believe someone would have tried to take a shot at Obama.

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
111. LOL
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:05 PM
Aug 2016

are you insinuating courage is needed to gun hump, and that male body parts are needed for courage? please....gun humpers are the biggest cowards on the planet

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
118. No...where the fuck did you get that?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:46 PM
Aug 2016

it sounds like you're searching pretty hard for a reason to be offended.

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
119. really?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:47 PM
Aug 2016

"Trump's supporters don't have the balls to do something like that."

WTF is that supposed to mean?

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
125. Wow...gee...I never would have known that
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 08:09 PM
Aug 2016

You mean someone can shoot a gun without having, like, actual testicles?? Amazing. I learned something today.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
145. Exactly right
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:17 AM
Aug 2016

I was calling it treason in an argument with a Trumpanzee, but it's not. it's sedition

 

anoNY42

(670 posts)
4. Unfortunately, I can guarantee that this
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:35 PM
Aug 2016

is going right into the ears and brain of my insane neighbor.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
10. I'm glad they're at least discussing it.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:41 PM
Aug 2016

The worst thing that could have happened, is for our our lamestream media to have pretended that this didn't just happen.

We all remember Sharron Angle's call for "Second Amendment solutions" - and Gabby Giffords' attempted assassination just two months later.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
63. The Rump apologist on CNN said
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:50 PM
Aug 2016

it was just a reference to the NRA taking her to court over anything she proposes.

Riiiight....
 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
77. Right? And the idiot news woman didn't ask why Trump said that would be
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:09 PM
Aug 2016

a horrible day!!!!

Do your damn job!

calimary

(81,441 posts)
104. Duncan Hunter Junior. As a Californian, let me be first to apologize for him.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:38 PM
Aug 2016

He's AWFUL. He already was, but this shit he tried so hard to shovel - this is BEYOND the beyond.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,191 posts)
6. Come on, guys. He's "joking."
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:37 PM
Aug 2016

Don't you know him by now?

He'll say something jaw-droppingly outrageous. And then he'll say he's "joking."

So relax.

He's "joking."

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
12. The Secret Service should jokingly detain him and take him in for a critical evaluation...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:41 PM
Aug 2016

of his sense of humor. Seriously.

Bob Buttons

(51 posts)
132. Or just conveniently be unavailable for a couple hours
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 09:14 PM
Aug 2016

...kidding. But maybe they could secure the room, not let him know, and just put a little fear in him. I'm sure we've all seen how he reacted in that airport hanger a while back when the Secret Service had to rush the stage, he was behind the podium in like half a second. Without these brave folks taking care of him, he would shit his pants.

appleannie1

(5,068 posts)
28. When you knowingly plant a seed in people's deranged minds, it is not really a joke.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:57 PM
Aug 2016

He planted the seed then will say it is a joke to cover his a s. That way if they do shoot her and say he told them too, he comes out stinking but free.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
89. Exactly, and he has lots of right win nutjobs with mental issues, amongst his followers. You don't
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:00 PM
Aug 2016

joke about stuff like that.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
106. True that.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:42 PM
Aug 2016

Remember the good ol' days when Sara "Bible Spice" Palin put targets on Democrats pictures. Then Gabby Giffords got shot. I think she was just funning too.

calimary

(81,441 posts)
105. Unfortunately, Mark Halperin and his fill-in co-host, Donny Deutsch, are spinning it that way.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:41 PM
Aug 2016

ON MSNBC's "With All Due Respect" show.

I've seen the video. Sure didn't look or sound like a joke to me! And the audience didn't react with laughter, as they would - AND as they have - when he's actually made jokes and other drolleries.

lark

(23,147 posts)
146. The guy behind him was totally apalled.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:00 PM
Aug 2016

He sure didn't act like he'd just heard a joke. He acted like he heard a candidate for president incite his followers to murder the other candidate if she became president.

Also, why is the media forgetting to include his statement - That would be a horrible day. Obviously he doesn't think not electing HRC would be horrible, so the explanation totally fails and media is failing to mention that. It would get in the way of their treasured "horse race" meme.

Texin

(2,597 posts)
58. Doesn't matter whether he calls it "joking" or not
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:42 PM
Aug 2016

Here's the deal: if the average person in the country made a statement like that and it was in a public place and someone made a complaint to management or called the FBI, it would get the speaker's ass hauled in by the Secret Service and they'd be interviewed and probably looked at pretty strenuously.

Remarks like that are taken seriously by the Secret Service and the country has laws against language that can incite violence or cause a mass public reaction. Shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded theater that results in a mass evacuation that leads to other patrons' injury or death will get that person arrested on felony charges and would not only result in prosecution, it could also lead to civil suits by those injured in the melee.

That very similar remark lost Sharron Angle the election last cycle and allowed Harry Reid to keep his Senate seat (though, truthfully, he probably would have won it any way). In any event, it was the last nail in her coffin, so to speak. And people were wondering if this despot-in-waiting had "turned a corner" because of his tepid and half way human-sounding speech yesterday. Everyone was musing if this meant he had put his typical loose cannon behavior in a storage box. Well, I guess this answers that question. It was little more than 24 hours later and this is his answer to that question. Resoundingly so.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
99. If he said something like that in a TSA line he'd never see the inside of a plane.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:29 PM
Aug 2016

It's absolutely the most dangerous thing he could do.

lark

(23,147 posts)
8. Nastiness personified.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:38 PM
Aug 2016

I have always thought that Cheney was the nastiest person ever in politics, well, I see I have to change my mind on that. It's Drumpf, far and away the worst, most destructive, hate filled rich jerk to ever enter American politics. Cheney is a demon, but Drumpf is the devil himself.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
29. Cheney is smart
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:59 PM
Aug 2016

Evil as hell, YES, but smart. Drumpf is a stupid kind of evil, but one that says what the most angry and stupid people in our country want to hear, which is more disgusting by the day.

bucolic_frolic

(43,258 posts)
15. It's as clear as Sharron Angle
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:44 PM
Aug 2016

This man stops at nothing.

His crazy supporters will be plotting by dusk.

Secret Service should be on this fast.

SunSeeker

(51,664 posts)
16. When Sharron Angle invoked "Second Amendment remedies," it cost her the election.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:45 PM
Aug 2016

Leave it to Dumbass Don to repeat the worst of the GOP.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
17. WOW.....I thought I had heard it all....but NOOOOOOOO..here is more!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:46 PM
Aug 2016


Joking about the ...2nd Amendment. implying ....... an idea of taking care of an opponent.....

That one is almost worse than the others...????

calimary

(81,441 posts)
103. Color me shocked. They're actually leading with it.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:36 PM
Aug 2016

I was switching between MSNBC and CNN. They're all leading with it.

Mark Halperin even announced at the top of his show (With All Due Respect) that (paraphrasing here) - "well, we had planned to lead with the latest polls out today, but Donald Trump just said something that's changed all that." He looked rather aghast. Then went on to follow his fill-in cohost, Donny Deutsch, who insists Trump was joking. Yeah. My Ass. I tweeted to both of them: "For the Love of God, it WASN'T a joke!" And, having watched that video clip several times now, not only here on the internet but ON CNN and ON MSNBC, nobody was laughing. NOBODY in his audience was reacting as if what he just said was a joke.

This is NOT a joke.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
109. I agree Cali
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:48 PM
Aug 2016

It's not a joke. His is a disgusting piece of shit. For a candidate or anyone, to talk like that is inexcusable and these people should be embarrassed and humiliated to make excuses for him.

Bob Buttons

(51 posts)
134. It was a mixed reaction in the crowd
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 09:20 PM
Aug 2016

From what I saw, at least 20% of the audience was grinning and nodding their head like they do anytime he says something they think they should "react" to. (Not sure how many of those people are really engaged in the moment, TBH.)

In my mind, that's actually the scarier part. There was a bearded man in red who seemed to say "oh wow" right afterward, looked disturbed by it, looked to the woman next to him who was laughing, and he seemed to slowly accept "oh ok this was a joke, I guess I'll smile." The fact that so many people were totally fine with it seems way worse than no reaction at all.

Then again, there were quite a few people who got up and left after that. So I guess there's hope yet for some of us.

Johnny2X2X

(19,108 posts)
23. This is a huge story
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:51 PM
Aug 2016

This needs to lead on every channel tonight. This is the most outrageous thing he's said or done in a campaign full of outrageous things. And law enforcement needs to get involved now!

calimary

(81,441 posts)
107. Welcome to DU, JDC.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:44 PM
Aug 2016

We've just gone WAY beyond the pale.

Every time Trump has said what I think is surely the most outrageous thing he or anybody else could ever say, he tops himself.

On a scale of HORRIBLE, this is right up there with "if we have nukes, why can't we use them?" Having trouble at the moment trying to decide which quote is worse.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
27. Houston and Louisiana Shootings Show...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:56 PM
Aug 2016

...how the Second Amendment remedy works in real life, rather than as Trump/Cruz/Ernst taking point.

vadermike

(1,416 posts)
30. Asshole
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:00 PM
Aug 2016

Screw him .. So much for e pivot He's gonna tank the house of Reps Blue wave !! I am worried for Hillarys safety Paul Ryan John McCain unendorse please speak up

riversedge

(70,286 posts)
34. Trump hints at assassination of #HillaryClinton by gun rights supporters #2ndamendment
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:07 PM
Aug 2016


Maharshi Patel ‏@maharshipatel 4m4 minutes ago

Trump hints at assassination of #HillaryClinton by gun rights supporters #2ndamendment #uscons


Donald Trump
Trump hints at assassination of Hillary Clinton by gun rights supporters

Republican presidential nominee says ‘second amendment people’ could stop Democrat choosing undesirable supreme court justices if she is elected
Donald Trump
Donald Trump speaks to at University of North Carolina in Wilmington on Tuesday. Photograph: Eric Thayer/Reuters

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Donald Trump has hinted at the assassination of Hillary Clinton by supporters of gun rights.

The Republican nominee was speaking at a rally in Wilmington, North Carolina, about the next president’s power to appoint supreme court justices. “If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” he said, adding: “Although the second amendment people – maybe there is, I don’t know.”

The second amendment to the constitution protects the right of Americans to bear arms. Trump has accused his Democratic rival of wanting to abolish it, a charge that she denies.

“This is simple—what Trump is saying is dangerous,” said Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook. “A person seeking to be the president of the United States should not suggest violence in any way.”

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Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
37. I thought everyone siad Putin is his close friend
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:09 PM
Aug 2016

would he not just get Russia to do whatever he wants?

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
39. "Stochastic Terrorism" is what this is. Plain and Simple.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:10 PM
Aug 2016

This man is unfit for civilized society.

Period.

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
40. I hope once this is all over and Hillary is firmly seated in the Oval Office
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:10 PM
Aug 2016

That Drumpf is hauled off to prison for tax-evasion and threatening the life of a candidate.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,020 posts)
41. Is the media so myopic, the candidate so deranged, and Americans so overwhelmed, that a candidate
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:11 PM
Aug 2016

could imply his supporters could shoot his opponent, and people are not outraged ?!?

kimbutgar

(21,181 posts)
50. Can you imagine
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:30 PM
Aug 2016

the outrage if Hillary suggested second amendment remedies against Cheeto? Fox would be blaring this on a 24 hour loop. Just when I think Cheeto goes too low he goes lower. He's practically a gopher now.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
53. He'll claim it was a joke. Too bad...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:37 PM
Aug 2016

... the Secret Service doesn't have a sense of humor.

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Texin

(2,597 posts)
72. Of course he will. He always does.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:01 PM
Aug 2016

At some point, though, crap like this reinforces in most reasonable people's minds the fact that he is not decent enough to have the most important job in the free world. Of course it won't matter to his staunchest supporters. These folks are the folks whose forebears supported and participated in KKK raids and rallies and all matter of extremist, knee-jerk fringe groups. They masqueraded (for awhile) as the Tea Party, but anyone old enough to remember the '60s and before all know what this is about. It's never changed and the quieter Republicans know it too. Most won't admit it or they'll claim they're supporting the Republicans because they're fiscal conservatives and they just can't conscience a Democratic-run government, but you scratch the surface of most of them deep enough and you'll find the same scared, sad, sorry, bigots as the loudest and craziest zealots of this sad ass party is at its core. What's happening, though, is the country is becoming younger and more and more diverse, and many more women than men are achieving ever higher education and professional degrees and careers. Women and younger, more diverse and more educated voters will know what this is all about, and they're turning away from this despot, Putin-wannabe more and more by the day.

Sometimes I wonder (and I've actually wondered it from the beginning really), is this guy really serious about wanting to the POTUS. I think it's just his nature, but I'm actually really becoming more and more convinced he wants to be removed from the ticket by the muckety-mucks. I don't think he finds anything but the podium attractive about this and the day-to-day actual job of being President would be a bore to him. Maybe he just wants to see the furor that would result if he was taken off the ticket and the entire Republican party just implodes and the "base" explodes onto the streets. I swear. He's like a really nasty version of The Joker unleashed on the American public. SMDH.

renate

(13,776 posts)
55. my concern that he would stick to the teleprompter and sound like a rational adult was ill founded
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:40 PM
Aug 2016

The Republican candidate for the presidency of the United States of America has just encouraged the assassination of his opponent.

Surely this is the end of his campaign being treated as legitimate by the MSM.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
56. If I had written such remarks on a internet forum, you can bet your ass
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:40 PM
Aug 2016

I would receive a visit from the Secret Service in short order.

I know this as I have received such a visit back during the Bush years for something much less innocuous than this.

mgardener

(1,817 posts)
59. What does he have to do or say?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:45 PM
Aug 2016

To be deemed by the Republicans totally unfit for office.
There comes a time when Republicans have to take a stand.
Calling for killing of his rival is that line in the sand.
He should have called for Republicans to vote.
No, he called for a violent solution to his perception of a problem.

Republicans are despicable people who put party over country.


Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
88. I'm sure they've already deemed him unfit for office...they just don't know....
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:00 PM
Aug 2016

...how to get off this bronco they've decided to ride. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't, but they're probably still hoping his supporters can vote them back into the senate. So they poo-poo him when he says crazy things rather than outright denouncing him and calling him unfit.

So. They hang on for dear life and hope to survive the election season. If they do, they may be able to forget Trump ever happened. I'm not saying they're right, just what I think they're thinking...

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
60. I hope it's been reported to the Secret Service at least several hundred times.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:46 PM
Aug 2016

And they have a little chat with der Orange Fuehrer.

jumptheshadow

(3,269 posts)
65. Security briefings
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:53 PM
Aug 2016

Will Trump continue to get security briefings if the Secret Service is called in?

There's no frame of reference here.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
66. I'll declare what no one on this thread seemingly has the intestinal fortitude to declare.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:53 PM
Aug 2016

THIS MAN SHOULD BE ARRESTED !!! He currently represents the most immediate threat to the security of the United States. He issues a veiled threat to kill he "IF" she is elected. He talks non stop about a conspiracy to rig the elections. His dirty tricks associate Roger Stone has also done so and recently accused Hillary of assassinating four individuals. His crazy supporters are being groomed. THIS CREEP SHOULD BE ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY !!!!!!!!!

calimary

(81,441 posts)
122. Sure sounded to me like he's trying to get her killed.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 08:05 PM
Aug 2016

I am now afraid for her. Knowing the raw tempers and the tendency toward violence that his supporters have already displayed, openly, I fear for her safety. And he's just stoking their fires. They ALL make me VERY worried. Especially since they tend to love their guns... And he's had people at the CONvention a few weeks ago - calling for her death, her being placed in front of a firing squad, her being a devil-worshipper, and her deserving to go to Hell. So this shit is just more of the same, but seriously piled higher and deeper. This is now officially scary.

And what's even more infuriating - he's just flat-out LYING about her about the 2nd Amendment. She has NEVER said she wants to do away with the 2nd Amendment! Not EVER! Not even slightly! She has never said she wants to change it, amend it, update it, or anything of the kind! In truth, she HAS said quite the opposite - that she supports it and respects the right to bear arms. And she's said so frequently, too.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
127. For weeks before Rabin's assassination in Israel, chants of "death to Rabin" we're heard and
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 08:17 PM
Aug 2016

discounted.

calimary

(81,441 posts)
112. Welcome to DU, Jim Dandy.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:12 PM
Aug 2016

You're not kidding. And THAT'S no joke, either.

This is freakin' HORRIFYING. I hope Hillary's Secret Service detail is paying VERY close attention in the days ahead. I'd guess they will be, after today.

True Dough

(17,314 posts)
147. And YOU TOO could have millions and millions of followers...
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:12 PM
Aug 2016

if you just inherit a fortune, get a reality show and you lose all your marbles!

Welcome aboard the DU, Jim. I'm relatively new to the place as well. Lots of good eggs here.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
70. The issue is that if ANY Democrat "joked" about assasinating anyone, that would be the end of
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:00 PM
Aug 2016

his/her career. It would not be tolerated if it were Hillary or Obama or ANY Democrat.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
71. Just watch
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:00 PM
Aug 2016

It'll be like Fox Noise and the Kansas family planning clinic murder.

"So what if someone actually went out and did what we suggested? We didn't mean it."

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
73. "The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of people who disagree with me politically
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:02 PM
Aug 2016

...er, I mean, tyrants"

- Trump and his supporters

Johnny2X2X

(19,108 posts)
74. On CNN now
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:04 PM
Aug 2016

Saying some people took it as a threat. Um, it clearly was a threat. No ifs ands or buts, he encouraged people to shoot her.

sanatanadharma

(3,722 posts)
78. No matter how the matter is parsed...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:24 PM
Aug 2016

No matter how the matter is parsed, Trump's comments are clearly calling the single-issue 2nd amendment gun owners to bring their armed power threats into the fray.

He is saying that within the Trump tribe trying to stop Madame President, the only political power with enough clout is in the not yet cold dead hands of the armed segment of their big-pup-tent tribe.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,586 posts)
80. WaPo: Trump appears to encourage gun owners to take action if Clinton appoints anti-gun judges
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:25 PM
Aug 2016
Trump appears to encourage gun owners to take action if Clinton appoints anti-gun judges

By Sean Sullivan and Isaac Stanley-Becker

August 9 at 4:30 PM 

This post has been updated

WILMINGTON, N.C. — Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, speaking at a rally in Wilmington, N.C., on Tuesday, appeared to encourage gun owners to take action if Hillary Clinton is elected president and appoints judges who oppose gun rights.

The mogul said that Clinton "wants to abolish, to essentially abolish the Second Amendment," a charge she has flatly denied. He said that if Clinton becomes president, she could appoint judges that would leave Americans nearly helpless on this front.

"By the way, and if she gets to pick — if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks," Trump warned. "Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know."

It was not clear whether Trump was inciting gun owners to use their weapons against judges or a sitting president, or was encouraging some other action.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
82. Hillary and SCOTUS simply cannot 'abolish the Second Amendment'.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:37 PM
Aug 2016

Evidently the Donald still hasn't read the Constitution. They would have to amend the Constitution to nullify part of the Second Amendment. When Prohibition was enacted we amended the Constitution with the 18th Amendment. When we decided it was all a mistake, we had to amend the Constitution again. We couldn't 'repeal' the 18th Amendment, we had to pass the 21st Amendment.

Does the Donald what is involved in amendmending the Constitution? I seriously doubt it.

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
84. This has to be criminal. A major party candidate hinting at inciting deadly force if they
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:41 PM
Aug 2016

do not get their way. WTF?!?!

It's like he has a free pass to do anything right now because he is a nominee for President.

Republicans: Reign in your rabid dog!!!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
90. Don't let him get away with it. It was intentional. He knows what it means. He'll play innocent...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:02 PM
Aug 2016

... and try to make you believe he meant something different, but don't believe it.

We don't have to meet court-of-law prosecutorial standards before we can condemn and call-out behavior like that. We know EXACTLY what he meant! It was an inflammatory lie, followed by a call-to-action for his supporters.

IT WAS A THREAT!!

His denying what he meant by that is along the lines of someone denying that "see you next Tuesday" doesn't mean anything vulgar and misogynistic either.

BigDemVoter

(4,156 posts)
92. Is ANYBODY truly surprised by this?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:11 PM
Aug 2016

This is exactly the sort of thing Trump is famous for. . . . Shockingly unacceptable statements from anybody, but especially from a candidate running for president. . . . But. . . . This is Trump. And his KoolAid drinkers won't care. In fact, they'll love him even more for it.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
94. This is proof positive that Trump has been punking us with his campaign
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:15 PM
Aug 2016

He knows to say that is probably the most wretched suggestion out there and for the rest of us might result in a visit from the Secret Service.

He never expected to get the nomination yet there are so many vile, clueless assholes in this country that are too clueless to realize that this whole race is a fucking joke to Trump.

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
95. I think that's unprecedented.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:19 PM
Aug 2016

The presidential nominee of one of the major parties just suggested assassinating the other.

Face palm.

PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)
98. I was just going to post this. Holy shit! WHAT is that man thinking?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:25 PM
Aug 2016

And more importantly, where do we draw the line? Trump is already CLEARLY unqualified, and now he's suggesting the unthinkable????

WHAT THE FUCK?

I'm boiling about this because YOU JUST DON'T DO IT, EVER. NOT EVER.

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
101. All right. That's enough for me.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:33 PM
Aug 2016

I was a Bernie supporter right up to the DNC. I'm registered in NC as an unaffiliated voter. Tomorrow I will change that to Democratic. I decided during the convention that I'm voting for Clinton. There was never a chance of me voting for Trump but this... This is beyond the pale. I called the local Republican headquarters and told them so too.

calimary

(81,441 posts)
114. Thank you, neeksgeek.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:17 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:48 PM - Edit history (1)

Great to have you with us. We need you. Thank you for this vote of confidence. To me, it actually means more simply because it comes from someone who had been a Bernie supporter (and I'm sure in many ways, many Bernie supporters still do have great faith in him, even those who've become willing or even eager to vote for Hillary).

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
102. I'm tempted to hit Free Republic or Discussion to see how the half-wits and dullards
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:34 PM
Aug 2016

I'm tempted to hit Free Republic or Discussion to see how the half-wits and dullards are rationalizing his statement as anything other than what he really said.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
143. I don't hate my computer...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 11:27 PM
Aug 2016

....so I would never make it go to RimJob Land or DI.

Is RimJob Land still up and running or did the hamster powering the PC-XT finally give up the ghost and crash?

3catwoman3

(24,032 posts)
110. He is amping up his claim that he could...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:00 PM
Aug 2016

...shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose any voters. There were no consequences to that statement.

Will there be consequences to this one?

I feel like I am living in a damned banana republic.

amazona10

(8 posts)
113. American media refuses to print his last line after "I don't know"
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:13 PM
Aug 2016

and it's "But I'll tell you what, it'll be a horrible day." Don't you think this confirms his intention? Why isn't it on the Huffington Post or in the media clips?? It's being edited.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
116. I don't remember another Presidential nominee who advocated assassinating his opponent.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:34 PM
Aug 2016

or a Supreme Court Judge.

Aristus

(66,446 posts)
121. A few years ago, one of those gun-crazed teabaggers came right out and asserted that
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:51 PM
Aug 2016

the 2nd Amendment gives people the right to shoot the President. (He was talking about Barack Obama, of course; he probably worshipped at the feet of GWB...)

I have no doubt it is to people like that that Trump was speaking...

calimary

(81,441 posts)
126. We had a Senate candidate six years ago who advocated "2nd Amendment remedies"
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 08:09 PM
Aug 2016

if she and her fellow CONS didn't get their way at the box office. Sharron Angle was her name and she was trying to unseat Harry Reid in Nevada. She was unsuccessful, Thanks Be To GOD!

I see that particular audio clip resurfacing today in some of the coverage. GOOD! This is who they are, over on that God-forsaken side of the aisle. Now they don't even tiptoe around it anymore.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
128. Unbelievable
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 08:22 PM
Aug 2016

This is so beyond anything I remember, wow.

Anyone who still plans to vote for hm is as insane as he is.

Wow. Just bizarre and what an indictment of what has become of the Republican Party.

And if Faux News defends this they will have hit a new low.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
137. He sure says "I don't know" a lot. Also...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 09:36 PM
Aug 2016

... "You tell me." Often he uses these phrases together, right after implying something nefarious, or saying something dangerous. It's actually pretty passive-aggressive. It's a way to imply and threaten while leaving yourself an "out" to claim it was just a joke, or you were misunderstood or "taken out of context."

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ileus

(15,396 posts)
138. His last grasp to get out of running....what a useless turd.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 09:41 PM
Aug 2016

Just quit already and stop throwing BS comments out hoping to be forced out of the race.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,894 posts)
140. Shouldn't the Secret Service be all over this?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:20 PM
Aug 2016

Shouldn't they sit Trump down and explain to him, in words of no more than one syllable, why he can't say these things?

Can't a person be arrested for such talk?

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
142. 18 U.S. Code § 879
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 11:25 PM
Aug 2016

Yeah he could. 18 U.S. Code § 879 says making threats against both the wife of a former President and now a candidate for the Presidency are big no-nos. It doesn't say a fucking thing about not being valid if the idiot who makes such threats later says he's only joking. And it says he could be fined or imprisoned for up to 5 years.

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