Poll: Three out of five Texans who support Trump want secession if Hillary becomes president

[Faygo Kid]

Source: Houston Chronicle

If anyone needs proof that the presidential race between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton truly is dividing the country, they should look to Texas.

According to poll results from Public Policy Polling released Tuesday, three out of five Texans who support Donald Trump said they would support seceding from America if Hillary Clinton becomes president.

Data from the left-leaning polling firm shows that Trump leads Clinton by a margin of 50 percent to 44 percent in Texas. This is far from the landslide win for Mitt Romney in the 2012 election. Four years ago, Romney beat President Barack Obama 57.2 percent to 41.4 percent.

According to the polling results from PPP, only one out of four Texans support seceding from America generally. But when faced with the possibility of a President Hillary Clinton, a majority of Texans said they'd rather leave. . . .

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/politics/election/article/Poll-Three-out-of-five-Texans-support-secession-9146807.php

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Yeah, so-called, self-described "patriots" who can't accept the results of an election - kind of like the one in 1860. How did that work out for you, Texas?

[muntrv]

1. Don't like taxes and regulations? Move to Somalia.

[R Merm]

14. Let them go,

they can build their own freaking wall and leave us alone.

[MosheFeingold]

22. +1 n/t

[Hortensis]

72. Exactly. If only we could let that "3 out of 5" of a few idiots

go be "free." Happy fantasy.

Of course we, including U.S. Texas, would only end up with refugees crossing that border, looking for better lives in the U.S. And we'd have to worry about a failing nation on our border.

[ToxMarz]

39. Let them go, but the land and resources are ours

They can self-deport.

[Scruffy1]

55. They are blowing smoke.

Like a temper tantrum. I'd love to Texas go back to Mexico, but there not going to give up the federal money and jobs. Without federal money both Oklahoma and Texas would be dirt poor or worse, especially with oil prices down.

[Moonwalk]

83. I would be more than happy to create a kickstarter to buy them all one-way tickets to Somalia...

...all you can eat meals on the cruise, free beer and going away party included! I'm sure they'd love it there. No taxes, no government. And they'd have all sorts of opportunities to use their guns. Paradise.

[forgotmylogin]

67. Texit!

Make sure they don't get any support from the US and they can build their own army and a wall if they want it.

[lapfog_1]

81. Don't just let them go...

kick them the fuck out.

Sorry DemoTex and other Texas Democrats... but without Texas... we would probably never have to worry about a repuke President and likely a repuke House ever again.

[lark]

59. Somalia also works for the open carry freaks.

PLEASE move there drumpfhadists. I will help in whatever way possible to have you no longer be part of our beautiful country. You don't deserve it.

[oberliner]

60. Or the Cayman Islands

Which seems more likely for the upper echelon Trumpians.

[dawn frenzy adams]

71. Oh no.

You would sick a bunch of virulent racists on Somalia? The Somalians have suffered enough from western intervention.

[JaneQPublic]

2. Another plus for a Hillary win.

Sorry DU Texans.

[PersonNumber503602]

11. Hey now...

I am in Texas :p

I know it isn't going to happen, but I have given some thought to what action I would take if it were to happen. Obviously packing up and leaving comes to mind first, but then I think if everyone rational or semi-rational person did that then it would ensure the creation of a hell for those not able to escape.

[JaneQPublic]

26. Run! Save yourself!

And, by the way, Maryland would welcome you with open arms.

[jayschool]

42. Come to Colorado

But don't bring the attitude of one of your fellow Texans, who once told me: "You know what we Texans call Colorado? Texas State Park."

Yeah, leave that one down south.

[bluestateguy]

3. Fine. But then NASA and all those NASA jobs in Houston go back to Uncle Sam

nt

[KatyMan]

7. Shit, not just that

San Antonio is one big Air Force base, isn't it? Not to mention Fort Hood. Not to mention that secession means cutting off Medicare, Social Security, all small business loans will suddenly be due, no highway money...these people are too stupid for words.

[Golden Raisin]

82. And the next big hurricane or other natural disaster

they can find the money and resources to bail themselves out and not rely on the big, bad, oppressive Feds.

[awoke_in_2003]

85. Plus a lot of military contractors...

and Chevy, Toyota- they would all pack it up.

[NickB79]

98. Texas would be run by the Mexican drug cartels within a year, two tops

Texans may have a lot of weapons, but so do the drug cartels. And Uncle Sam would take all his big guns with him when he leaves.

The drug cartels would simply buy off any officials they can, kill those they can't, and make Texas their own little kingdom.

[displacedtexan]

4. Good. We'll save a fortune in matching federal funds.

Of course, we'll have to establish charitable outreach for the oppressed inside their borders and provide refugee status visas for those hoping to escape their new regime. Because their bargaining power in treaty negotiations will be pitiful.

[berksdem]

5. Well...

I would be absolutely okay with that as long as we can make sure Trump is included in the deal.

[whatthehey]

6. People keep saying this is a fringe position

But nobody serious thinks Clinton will take TX, implying more than 30% (50%+ Trump support times 3/5) of Texans will be looking to secede.

[forest444]

27. It is a fringe position in that only a minority of Texans would favor anything so rash.

Even if it is a vocal minority.

And yes, it's very unlikely Dems can win Texas' 38 electoral votes anytime soon (as nice as that would be); but if Hillary can come within single digits, she might help Democratic candidates take back a couple of House seats from the Texas delegation - even with all the Gerrymandering there.

[whatthehey]

29. 30%+ is a freaking big fringe.

[forest444]

35. That it is.

They have a similar problem with these types in the Deep South as well.

I know a number of Southerners - even some Republicans - that are mortified when they hear of these things; "I hope someone's keeping an eye on them; they f'ing serious," I was told once.

Well, they may riot a little (like they did in Ole Miss on election night 2012); but I really don't think they're up more any more trouble than that.

[getting old in mke]

10. Yeah

I was having problems reconciling that with Hillary at 41%.

[whatthehey]

30. Digging into details, a fair number (20%) of Clinton supporters agree.

[oberliner]

9. How many Americans want secession if Trump becomes president?

I would imagine it could be a pretty significant number.

[YOHABLO]

53. Did you mean leave the country? Trump is a terror for the entire world mind you.

[oberliner]

58. I could see Vermont wanting to secede

Maybe join up with Canada?

[mnhtnbb]

12. Maybe Santa Anna will have his revenge. Mexico could annex Texas.

And since Texas wants to secede, the US could refuse to intervene.

How about that?

[Jim Dandy]

13. A lot of sedition in Trumperville

Why do they hate America?

[The CCC]

19. A lot of sedition in Trumperville

Nearly 50 years of the Southern Strategy.

[randr]

15. Maybe we can sell it back to Mexico

[onehandle]

16. Buh-bye! nt

[austinlw]

17. Trump is down to a single digit lead in Texas

Similar to Montana, Utah, and others. We already know from PPP that the Trump edge in Texas is coming from those over 65. Younger folks here in Texas are going to be voting for Hillary Clinton. Those Anti-American Texans can leave the US if they want to. The rest of us patriotic Texans will be happy to stay right here in the USA and make Texas blue.

[Paladin]

36. Now, now. Don't spoil the DU Texas Haters' fun.

The way things are going, they'll have to find a new target for their regional hatred, soon enough.

[greymattermom]

38. So if Texas leaves the US

will the over 65 crowd still get Medicare and Social Security?

[metalbot]

62. I don't think you have to live in the US to collect SS

...but Medicare coverage would require you to live in the US.

[Boomer]

18. Don't let the door hit you on the way out

I say that as a native born Texan, who -- thank god -- doesn't live in that state anymore. Just let me opt for American citizenship when they break away.

[Uben]

20. I wish they would secede

Not the whole of Texas, but just the ones who want it. We'll give them a few hundred acres out in the desert of Western Texas. No mineral or water rights. Let em go at it. They'd come crying back in a week. I was born and have lived in Texas my entire 61 years, and I know all too well that there are some really ignorant people here. They are low-information people who repeat what they hear at prayer meetings or hog-slaughters. That's the extent of their knowledge of current events.

Listen Linda! Listen! You're not hearing me!

[forest444]

24. ^ Thread winner.

There's nothing like first-hand insight when it comes to stories like these (or for anything really).

[whatthehey]

33. 60 % of Trump supporters in TX, and some Clinton supporters, are not a "few hundred acre" issue

We are talking something approaching 10 million people extrapolated from this sample.

[Ilsa]

76. Thank you!

I got bashed for tx-bashing. Born & raised here. Love so much about it except the idiots to cling to the republicanism that is turning Texas, more and more, into a third world country.

[Vinca]

21. Two words: buh bye

[47of74]

25. Texas should split into five states

Then all the nuts who want to leave can have one of the four component states somewhere in the middle of nowhere and live out their dreams of teabag glory, with the understanding that they can go fuck themselves if some disaster should befall them.

[SwankyXomb]

90. Won't happen

Who gets the Alamo?

[Helen Borg]

28. I bet they still want their Federal handouts though...

[dkhbrit]

31. "majority of Texans said they'd rather leave. . . ."

It doesn't say that. It says that 3/5 of people who'd vote for Trump would want to leave. So that's maybe 30% of Texans.

[TexasBushwhacker]

92. MATH!

Thank you.

[apnu]

32. Lets do the math!

538 has the average Texas poll at 42.7% Trump to 35.5% Clinton and 5.6% for Johnson. So what the OP is saying is 3/5 of 42.7% of the Texas population wants to secede if Hillary becomes Madam President.

Some how I don't think we'll be rid of Texas that way, as a clear majority of Texans want to say in the United States.

[austinlw]

40. Ooooh math, a radical concept...

It's big talk. Just like the notion of voting for Trump, it's not exactly something that's been carefully thought through. I wish all the Texas haters would scrutinize their own broad generalizations as thoroughly as they do those of their political opponents. It certainly
doesn't come across as very open-minded nor progressive.

[oswaldactedalone]

34. Don't let the screen door hit you

on the ass on your way out. Good riddance morans.

[LanternWaste]

96. Yet its not moronic to speak as if this would actually come to fruition?

Yet its not moronic to speak as if this would actually come to fruition?

[cstanleytech]

37. So what it really means is its to late for 3 out of 5 Trump supporters

to see a surgeon to get their heads extracted from where its wedged up their ass before permanent brain damage is done due to a lack of oxygen.

[LakeArenal]

41. Proceed..

[frogmarch]

43. Ye Haw!

Let 'em.

[misterhighwasted]

44. I wish Tx good luck without FEMA when the flooding begins.

Have fun.

[Motley13]

45. Bye

[bucolic_frolic]

46. Self-deportation, please

Make it easy for them

Lump and leave. (Lump sum and deport).

[hamsterjill]

47. Texas needs to go back to its natural state.

That state being the state of BLUE!

Most of these asshole Trump supporters are idiots who have moved here within the last 20 to 30 years. They aren't "real" Texans.

This sixth generation Texan would be happy if the Trump supporters would go elsewhere and allow the state of Texas to return to that which it was - BLUE.

My beloved Texas gets a bad rap because the idiot extremists are always doing something to get themselves into the news. The crazies have come in and taken over. The rest of us are trying desperately to maintain some common sense and we are working hard to get out the vote and take Texas back.

We'll be quite happy if they choose to move elsewhere.

[pwb]

48. Texans won't vote for no New Yorker.

Wait, what?

[keithbvadu2]

56. But they'll vote for a couple of Connecticut Yankees, Dubya and elderBush.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

49. Good-bye suckas!

[TwistedTinkerbelle]

50. Lord I am so tired of this...

That bit of info says 3 out of 5 Trump supporters, not 3 out of 5 Texans. Big difference. So that makes it roughly 30% of Texans, not the majority.

Do you really think for one minute the powers that be would allow a Texas secession when to do so would wipe out a lot of big businesses here and *gulp* force the new nation to impose taxes???Hell no. You can kiss that whole scenario goodbye, it ain't happening.

As for the idea the Dems in Texas aren't doing enough, well hello we're making gains, with a hell of a lot of gerrymandering keeping us under wraps. Have you seen a Texas district map? The damn thing looks like plate of spaghetti noodles. It's that bad. I live in North Texas, Hood County, near DFW. Yes North Texas and no that's not the Panhandle...but hey guess where my congress critter lives? Way the hell out in West Texas, Midland no less. His home office is 300 miles west of me. He has a tiny office here in the county and he's been once in the last three years. He has no vested in interest in this county other than it consistently votes red because it takes in a huge swath of rural area. It's the same with most of the red districts, all them are drawn through the rural areas because those areas almost always vote Republican.

We got some of the map changed, but not enough to make a real difference. The minority vote is key to the success of ending the GOP strangle hold. We're making progress but it's slow. This is the first real shot we've had at making any kind of meaningful impact on the voting map.

Secession talk has been around as long as I can remember and that's going back to the damn 60's. It's nothing new. the only thing that's changed is the idiots have found each via the internet and made their own little pocket of crazy to call home. That's it.

[elleng]

51. Let those people GO!!!

[Jerry442]

52. I've tried doing the secession experiment in my head.

Even if you assume that the secession is amicable (and if things are so amicable, why secede anyway), the entanglements between the public and private affairs of the seceding states and the ones that remain are so numerous and so complicated that it would take years to work them out. And -- here's the fatal flaw: there's no higher court or other governing body to appeal to to resolve disputes.

Just guns. Guns are usually the way these things end up being resolved. Just like the last time.

[Jade Fox]

63. Remember this?

Dear Texas,

I have received your petition to secede from the United States, and have forwarded it to Congress who will act on it with their usual speed.
All military bases in Texas will be closed and personnel will be relocated to bases in the United States, except for a contingency left to guard the Texas-US Border.
Any Texas citizen holding a US passport is required to surrender it immediately. Entry into the US will require a valid Texas passport. Anyone staying longer than 2 weeks will have to obtain a visa.
Funding for highways, transportation, bridges, infrastructure, education, and medical facilities will cease immediately. Your representatives to the US Congress are ordered to leave Washington as soon as possible. All US licenses to do business are revoked.
The FAA will no longer operate your airports, and traffic controllers are terminated. All civil service employees in the country of Texas are terminated.
The FCC no longer operates, so you will be responsible for licensing your own Television, Radio, Telephone, and Internet providers.
Anyone receiving payments for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Disability will have to reapply, and Congress will decide if foreigners are allowed to receive payments from the US Government.
The Coast Guard will no longer operate in Texas waters, so suggest you form your own Navy immediately to protect your borders against foreign invaders, drug smugglers, terrorists, and illegal aliens.

Good Luck,
Barak Obama

ps. Attached is a bill for your portion of the national debt.

[texasfiddler]

54. I am ready to leave

I would love to move my family to Colorado and make it more blue.

[keithbvadu2]

57. Pay your share of the national debt on the way out, deadbeats.

[Jade Fox]

66. Among other things

Dear Texas,

I have received your petition to secede from the United States, and have forwarded it to Congress who will act on it with their usual speed.
All military bases in Texas will be closed and personnel will be relocated to bases in the United States, except for a contingency left to guard the Texas-US Border.
Any Texas citizen holding a US passport is required to surrender it immediately. Entry into the US will require a valid Texas passport. Anyone staying longer than 2 weeks will have to obtain a visa.
Funding for highways, transportation, bridges, infrastructure, education, and medical facilities will cease immediately. Your representatives to the US Congress are ordered to leave Washington as soon as possible. All US licenses to do business are revoked.
The FAA will no longer operate your airports, and traffic controllers are terminated. All civil service employees in the country of Texas are terminated.
The FCC no longer operates, so you will be responsible for licensing your own Television, Radio, Telephone, and Internet providers.
Anyone receiving payments for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Disability will have to reapply, and Congress will decide if foreigners are allowed to receive payments from the US Government.
The Coast Guard will no longer operate in Texas waters, so suggest you form your own Navy immediately to protect your borders against foreign invaders, drug smugglers, terrorists, and illegal aliens.

Good Luck,
Barak Obama

ps. Attached is a bill for your portion of the national debt.

[Javaman]

61. and trump is only leading by 6 points now in Texas and may side blue come election day.

so at the end of the day, most of the people here in Texas will want to stay in the U.S.

Living in Texas, there is just so much rampant stupidity, it's truly hard to fathom sometimes.

[ThoughtCriminal]

64. So 30% at best?

In Texas, that would be any weekday no matter who is President.

[Tiggeroshii]

65. How they gonna secede for electing Clinton when the state might vote to elect Clinton?

...

[Cryptoad]

68. Feeling mutual

3 out of 5 Blue Staters want succession if Trump wins

[turbinetree]

69. While the door is hitting you in the proverbial A*** I / WE want "ALL" of my money back, I want the

money we spent on your flooding, your airports, highway(s), bridges, border security, clean water, all of the money you used to sue Planned parenthood through the courts, all of the money you used to disenfranchise voters through the courts, military bases, move Lockheed out of Texas since your building the F-35 down there you all, Bell Helicopter and the V-22, clean food inspections, everything, all the money that was used for hurricane watch, dredging of your harbors, and "all" of the pay that your Congressional establishment has taken, TSA, Border Patrol, should I go on.


Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

And oh yeah, almost forgot, your "boy" guy" your "narcissistic" hypocrite who likes to stiff people out signed contract agreements and makes fun of disabled human beings, having operatives working for foreign establishments to over throw duly elected governments, keep going you know that piece of work right wing, the flaming crashing drumpfster is going to lose---------


http://www.270towin.com/

[vkkv]

70. I know there ARE smart people in Texas, just not enough, apparently..

[mdbl]

73. buncha morons (the 3 out of 5 texans)

that's all i can say about that

[PersonNumber503602]

74. It's less than that actually.

This is 3 out of 5 who support Trump. So that doesn't include any liberal democrats or the conservatives who don't like Trump for whatever reasons t

[TeamPooka]

75. Sorry texas, you're stuck with representative democracy whether you like it or not. nt

[vkkv]

80. !!!!!

[heaven05]

77. don't like this country?

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then GTFO!!!!!!!!!!! Leave, good riddance, don't let the the door hit you and on and on ad infinitum.............idiots.

[Gothmog]

78. It is tough living in Texas at times

The Texas trump supporters are idiots

[tonyt53]

79. Hell, those might be a less percentage than the trumpsters in Idaho.

[GOLGO 13]

84. I'm reasonably certain that noting of value would be lost if they left.

I'm willing to give it a go actually. Oh yes, and take your 38 votes with you.

[matt819]

86. Stop threatening already

Attack the US or try to change the constitution. All hat, no cattle.

[PSPS]

87. More stupid click bait non-story

The same people who comprise "Texans who support Trump" would have claimed they "want secession" if a "negro" were elected president.

[LuckyLib]

88. Happy Trails to You -- just don't take the good Texans with you!

[adigal]

89. I'm for secessiOn for NY if Trump wins. Or I'll just leave

If my fellow Americans are that stupid, they can do without me.

[SwankyXomb]

91. We can just slide Puerto Rico in to replace them

They've even got pretty much the same flag!

[struggle4progress]

93. Uncle Sam kicked Texas's sorry ass in 1865 and can easily do so again if need be

[moondust]

94. Be easier to deport them

to Somalia. FREEDUM FROM GUBMINT!!!!!!!!

How about a GoFundMe project?

[Javaman]

95. I smell BS...

that would mean more than half the state wants to leave.

I seriously doubt that.

[Blue_Tires]

97. it's just mastubatory bullshit

And just like the Brexit, if it did happen the state would immediately begin regretting it the morning after..

And since Texas doesn't have a body of water protecting its border, in 72 hours I'd predict it to morph into "North Mexico"