Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal refuses to implement Obamacare despite Supreme Court ruling

[Roland99]

Source: Yahoo

The Supreme Court upheld President Barack Obama's health care law on Thursday, but Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a possible Republican vice presidential contender who has refused to establish a federally mandated health care exchange in his state, said Friday that he will continue to ignore it.

"We're not going to start implementing Obamacare," Jindal said during a conference call with Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell. "We're committed to working to elect Gov. Romney to repeal Obamacare."

Under the Affordable Care Act, states must set up a health insurance exchange program by Jan. 1, 2014, and will receive grants from the federal government to implement it. Several Republican governors, including both Jindal and McDonnell, have put off setting up the exchanges in the hope that the law would be repealed or struck down by the court. Now that the law has been upheld, Jindal said he won't change course and is looking to presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney to lead the repeal effort if he takes office in 2013.

"Here in Louisiana we have not applied for the grants, we have not accepted many of these dollars, we're not implementing the exchanges," Jindal said. "We don't think it makes any sense to implement Obamacare in Louisiana. We're going to do what we can to fight it."

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[cindyperry2010]

1. then they need to sue his dumb ass

[ladjf]

2. His "grandstand" is about to go up in flames. nt

[Freddie Stubbs]

17. The law provides for the feds to set it up if the states don't act

[onenote]

25. States are not required to set up exchanges, which will make suing him somewhat difficult

The law provides that if a state elects not to set up an exchange, the Federal government will set one up for that state.

[cindyperry2010]

34. excuse me

you are so much smarter than all the rest of us bow before the rude jerk

[otohara]

84. Troll is Gone

applause

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. He is a disgusting idiot.

[arcane1]

4. Too busy cashing in on teaching students that the Loch Ness Monster is real?

[Seedersandleechers]

5. Louisiana is a poor state and many could benefit from the ACA

How does this jackass keeps getting elected?

[RKP5637]

29. It gives real insight into why Louisiana remains a poor state with

their wisdom of whom they elect.

[Roland99]

37. ha...the freeper whose post was hidden really has a handle on things, eh?

Michigan has a Repuke Gov and a Repuke-led legislature.

[RKP5637]

40. Thanks for posting! I was thinking the same, and CA just got rid of Schwarzenegger

in 2011. As usual, the freepers are clueless.

[Harry Monroe]

49. Because people here are idiots

[nanabugg]

6. Why would anyone want to elect officials who defy our own laws? What kind of example is that?

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This should be what the Dems talk about on guest appearances on TV. They are setting the tone for out and out disorder, unlawful acts, and defiance of our own laws. The party of "Law and Order" has become the party of lawlessness and disorder. They have effectively stopped the fight against illegal arms sales to foreign countries thanks to the NRA influence, they are encouraging more fraud and abuse by fighting against more regulation of the banking and other financial institutions, and they are encouraging outside terrorists to use their anti-government rhetoric to attract anarchists and foreign sympathizers with terrorists groups like al-quadea to swell their ranks with anti-American hooligans.

[RKP5637]

31. They should be called out for what they are, American Terrorists. n/t

[mahatmakanejeeves]

7. Massive Resistance

Massive Resistance

Pickett will take Cemetery Ridge; just you wait and see.

[happyslug]

21. Every time I think of Pickett's Charge, I remember the exchange between Picket and Lee

After the attacked had failed, Picket, who as commander of the attacking unit had stayed in the rear, where he belonged, so he could better direct the attacking units (i.e. shift any artillery support as needed, shift reinforcement units as needed).

Anyway, after the charge had failed, Lee was forming his surviving units to resist an expected Union Counter attack. Seeing Picket just standing around, he yelled at him to get his men ready. Picket's response is legendary "I have no men". Lee's response is also known "You did not lose them, I did" and rode away to prepare for the expected Counter attack (Which did NOT occur).

[mahatmakanejeeves]

74. That was 149 years ago this week.

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Lee and the Army of Northern Virginia were headed through Frederick County,* Maryland, on their way north. Soon they would be in the obscure rail junction of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.

That flag at the Wikipedia page? I've never seen that before now. I don't keep up with that stuff, though.

Faulkner:

Pickett's Charge

For every Southern boy fourteen years old, not once but whenever he wants it, there is the instant when it's still not yet two oclock on that July afternoon in 1863, the brigades are in position behind the rail fence, the guns are laid and ready in the woods and the furled flags are already loosened to break out and Pickett himself with his long oiled ringlets and his hat in one hand probably and his sword in the other looking up the hill waiting for Longstreet to give the word and it's all in the balance, it hasn't happened yet, it hasn't even begun yet, it not only hasn't begun yet but there is stll time for it not to begin against that position and those circumstances which made more men than Garnett and Kemper and Armstead and Wilcox look grave yet it's going to begin, we all know that, we have come too far with too much at stake and that moment doesn't need even a fourteen-year-old boy to think This time. Maybe this time with all this much to lose and all this much to gain: Pennsylvania, Maryland, the world, the golden dome of Washington itself to crown with desperate and unbelievable victory the desperate gamble, the cast made two years ago....

* Correction: Washington County, Maryland. See: Hotchkiss map at Library of Congress

[mahatmakanejeeves]

80. Southern Manifesto

This is a more fitting reference, on the grounds that it involved many states, not just Virginia.

Southern Manifesto

The Declaration of Constitutional Principles (known informally as the Southern Manifesto) was a document written in February and March 1956, in the United States Congress, in opposition to racial integration in public places. The manifesto was signed by 99 politicians (97 Democrats) from Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia. The document was largely drawn up to counter the landmark Supreme Court 1954 ruling Brown v. Board of Education.

[SDjack]

8. Bobby still has tears in his eyes. His staff needs to get a grip and read the ACA.

For states that don't set up exchanges to implement the law, Pres. Obama will send federal carpet baggers in to set it up and operate it. That means no participation by the state. I don't think that Bobby wants to lose out on the "control" and patronage.

[RKP5637]

35. Bobby will probably send in the National Guard against the Feds, that's how lame he is. n/t

[Incitatus]

55. Of course, the President can take command the National Guard.

I'm no lawyer, but for Bobby to try something like that sounds like treason.

[RKP5637]

62. Oh, I don't think he would really go that far, but then again, I don't

think some of these governors play with a full deck. I could imagine hearing threats of this or that. Some of these governors have no respect and do not care for all of the people in their state. Often they seem to represent a fringe majority that barely got them into office.

[Brother Buzz]

9. Bobby wants that VP pick

[FirstLight]

11. omg...

romney/jindal = dumb & dumber!

[RufusTFirefly]

15. +1. Exactly. n/t

[dynasaw]

10. Aren't Governors supposed to Uphold the Law

Refusing to Implement should make them law breakers not to mention throwing their constituencies under the bus.

[former9thward]

16. The Roberts decision, which so many on this site are celebrating, said the states

don't have to implement the medicaid provisions. Still celebrating?

[onenote]

26. This isn't the medicaid provision we're discussing

Its the Health Insurance exchange provision and the law never mandated that a state set one itself. States were always allowed to elect not to do so and to let the federal government set up the exchange in that state. There is no penalty in the law for a state that doesn't set up its own exchange.

[nxylas]

23. The tenth amendment says governors only have to obey federal laws if they agree with them

At least it does in the Tea Klux Klan version of the Constitution.

[Adsos Letter]

12. Channeling John C. Calhoun?

What a loser.

[wordpix]

13. Big Government, get my beaches cleaned up when Big Oil spews all over them!

But don't tell me what to do about insuring the thousands who are uninsured for health care.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

59. brilliant !

[AllyCat]

14. John Doe Walker is saying the same thing here in Wisco.

Cannot believe this state voted for that crook again. We already have a system in place, but he doesn't want to pay for it. He's cutting Badgercare (including kids). And 57% of Wisconsin thinks that is just grand.

[judesedit]

20. That election was as crooked as the ones before it. Walker's a loser

Poor Wisconsonians. Their governor cares more about and is more loyal to the insurance companies and big pharma than his own constituents.

[AllyCat]

71. A bit of good news, his right-hand man J.B. Van Hollen (A.G.) has sait he must

follow the law. They'll find another way, but for now, his own crooked A.G is saying he needs to shut up and put up.

[judesedit]

18. Pretty bad when LA own governor doesn't want most of the people to have health care

Poor Louisianans

[Thinkingabout]

19. Bobby Jindal is bad for Louisiana and he is bad for the USA

According to the birthers he does not qualify to run for President and VP because at the time of his birth neither of his parents was citizens of the USA. He has made the state of Louisiana worse than they was before his election.

[atreides1]

24. So he's like Michelle Malkin

An anchor baby...

[southern_belle]

43. Yea, jindal

just screw all of us that live in this f*cking state (and hell, yes, i would move if i could).

[warrprayer]

22. We knew this was coming

[RKP5637]

36. Yep, that sums it up well! n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

60. omg...is that real ??

[warrprayer]

61. I doubt

... that it is real, but it still is funny

[Thor_MN]

72. IIRC, that was something about a online game account being deleted...

Or something to that effect. Tosh.0 had him on the show for an interview.

[Amonester]

70. QUICK! SOMEONE CALL AN...

EXORCIST!

I SAW HIS EMPTY HEAD TWIST A 360!

[warrprayer]

73. Call the Wah-mbulance too! n/t

[RKP5637]

27. I'm surprised some of these governors don't outright kill their

citizens with open fire, that's in essence what they've been trying to do, kill off the residents of their states in one way or another while the ignorant standby and cheer them on.

Some states/governors are so fucked up they've become places not to visit even to drive through. I feel so sorry for the residents.

[Javaman]

33. little alfred E. jindal will refuse to impliment it until he does. nt

[lolly]

45. Yep--and it when it works

And people like it, he'll be taking credit for it.

Like all the anti-stimulus Republican governors and legislators who showed up to grandstand at ribbon-cutting ceremonies for stimulus funded projects.

[NOLALady]

38. A local radio talk show

was discussing death panels with local Doctors.

I couldn't believe it!

The People in this state have the Governor they deserve. SMH!

[secondvariety]

39. Louisiana sucks up Federal money like a Hoover vacuum.

But Jindal now refuses.

[hamsterjill]

41. I was expecting it to be Rick Perry

I was expecting Rick a/k/a Idiot Perry to pull a stunt like this.

I hope there is legal recourse to FORCE these sore losers into compliance.

[aurora the great]

50. Dumb and Dumberer

Oh give Rick alittle time and Im sure he will join JindaL

[justabob]

63. give him a minute

He hasn't yet said outright that he won't follow the law, but.....Texas government is not willing to accept Medicaid expansion, and They have not done any work yet on the policy exchange. There are also many lawsuits already filed and more in the works according to what I read yesterday.

[ronwelldobbs]

68. We Tejanos are waiting for the demographic bomb to go off.

And send Gringo Goodhair back to the Panhandle.
And good riddance!

[hamsterjill]

78. Welcome to DU

As a life long Texan, I join in your exuberation at the time when we get to say "good riddance" to Perry! He's a complete and utter idiot!

[joycejnr]

42. Time to send in the federal troops! n/t

[magic59]

44. Its simple economics

States that do not implement ACA will lose population and businesses. Its a simple talking point that dems should use. People and businesses will be drawn to states that offer affordable health care options.

[JPK]

46. The really funny and ironic thing is.....

Louisiana is just about not only one of the poorest states it is also one of the most racist. I have been there many times and while their current gov would like to think he's one of the "Boys", he is just a tool and the political mafia in that state would dump him so fast if he didn't do what he was supposed to do, he'd be on a boat back to India. Louisiana is a shit hole like AL, MS, GA, SC and NC. States with a really uneducated populace.

[juajen]

48. You are painting with a very broad brush. There are plenty of educated and lovely non-racist people

who live in this state. I came to Louisiana in 1982 because my husband was employed by a company that sent him here. I love this state, and it has a lot of charm. We have a wonderful culture. Many of us are in hate with jindal. I do agree that politics in Southern states are colorful, to say the least. I am a progressive democrat and was born and raised in the South.

[BillyJack]

53. You are a rare jewel then eom

[AJTheMan]

47. Governor Piyush Jindal is such an embarassment for our state.

I 100% hope he is selected to run for V.P. so he can get the hell out of here. But wait, that would only work if the Republicans win the White House. Oh god. Four more years of Piyush Jindal.

[Nye Bevan]

82. I don't like him either, but the "Piyush" stuff smacks of racism.

Kind of like the repukes emphasizing the "Hussein" in Barack Obama.

[tblue]

51. Go away, Bobby J.

Just go away.

[Keefer]

52. Well...

Good for him. With Roberts on our side now, Jindal will be out-voted soon enough. .

[DonCoquixote]

54. And the GOP sends their first canary

Into the coal mine to see what happens. I know Rick Scott will probably be next.

[JCMach1]

56. What a dumbass, so he surrenders state power and allows the feds to create the exchange

It is my understanding that's what the law provides for.

And while the Federal Government can't REMOVE Medicaid funds, it can NOT INCREASE it.

[DeSwiss]

57. It's been tried before.....

...and by a bigger wanker than you'll ever be buddy.



- ''Conservatives'' are so boring. I don't believe Jindal's ever had an original idea. Except for maybe changing his name from Piyush to Bobby......

K&R

[Ferretherder]

58. Yep, thet thar's mah guverner....yessiree!

Proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that he has absolutely NO CARE OR CONCERN, WHATSOEVER, for the people who he represents.

Thanks a lot, you idiot tool!




Fuckin' dick.

[Brigid]

64. If Jindal won't implement ACA . . .

Then the Feds will do it for him -- for example, setting up an exchange. At least, that's the way I understand ACA works.

[onenote]

75. Correct. The law doesn't require states to set up exchanges themselves.

[MjolnirTime]

65. So the People in Red States will be the ones to suffer? The won't be Red for long.

[onenote]

76. No, they won't suffer because under the law if a state opts not to set up an exchange,

the federal government does it for them.

I don't approve of any governor or state legislature deferring to the federal government to set up the exchanges, but the allows them to do so and a lot of the comments on this thread appear to be based on a misunderstanding of the law.

[Marrah_G]

66. Yet the asshole will have health insurance for life

As long as he has his.....

[ronwelldobbs]

67. Fine, let's cut Louisiana's highway funds then.

See how they like that.

[onenote]

77. And how do you propose to do that?

And, by the way, the law doesn't require a state to set up exchanges -- in fact it expressly allows states to opt out of doing so, in which case the federal government will step in and set up the exchange for that state.

[Evasporque]

69. ass-hats only care about the "rule of law" when it is something they want...

hypocrite fool assholes...I'm telling you they are pushing farther and farther every year and it will end in another rebellion crushed and a party outlawed...once they decide to disobey the rule of federal law then they are treasonous...!!

[1StrongBlackMan]

79. I must admit ...

I haven't read every comment in this thread (so forgive me if I'm repeating another comment); but Jindal (and McDonnell) refusing to set up the state exchange is a good thing in the march to single payer.

Their refusal (failure) triggers the provision in the ACA where the fed sets up and runs the exchange. Bobby "Deer in headlights" won't be able to later claim that he did something on this matter, as he did with the stimulus dollars.

But there is nothing in the law that would prevent the fed from including a Vermont-style single-payer option as one insurance choices.

You hear that Kathryn Sebelius? In every state that refuses (fails) to set up the exchanges, include a public option as a choice.

[Roland99]

81. pRick Scott changed his mind yet again and now Florida will NOT enact the law either.

[1StrongBlackMan]

83. Good ...

So we can have public options in the federally created exchanges in three states.

I'm holding out hope that Arizona will do likewise; but from what I understand, this state has drawn down some set-up funding.