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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 06:41 PM Oct 2016

GOP Senator: 'Nobody Really Believes' That Next Prez Should Get SCOTUS Pick

Source: Talking Points Memo

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) made admissions that could be awkward for his Republican Senate colleagues trying to block President Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court.

In an interview published Monday, Flake conceded that nobody in the Republican Party "really believes" that late Justice Antonin Scalia's Supreme Court seat should be left for the next president to fill. As proof, he flipped the scenario around and envisioned a Republican president currently in the White House and nearing the end of his term.

"Our position shouldn’t be that the next president ought to decide. Nobody really believes that, because if this were the last year of a Republican presidency nobody would say that," Flake told the Daily Beast.

He added that the Senate's position "ought to be to confirm the most conservative justice to replace Scalia," to maintain balance, even if that means confirming President Obama's Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jeff-flake-merrill-garland-supreme-court

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GOP Senator: 'Nobody Really Believes' That Next Prez Should Get SCOTUS Pick (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2016 OP
It's not "The Scalia Seat", asshole - elections have consequences maxsolomon Oct 2016 #1
If Hillary wins and we get the Senate Obama should withdraw his nomination ToxMarz Oct 2016 #2
Why should she nominate Garland at all? chuckie29 Oct 2016 #6
Is this sarcasm?? GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #9
Not happening GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #8
I agree, I don't think of Obama as a weak character. He won't pull Garland back off his pick..nt vkkv Oct 2016 #10
No, he should not... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #30
The President should withdraw Garland's name as a nominee tomorrow. GOP had their chance. TeamPooka Oct 2016 #18
I hope President Clinton nominates a super liberal Marthe48 Oct 2016 #3
OK, but it would work better if Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #4
Of course Marthe48 Oct 2016 #23
Super liberal woman of color TeamPooka Oct 2016 #19
I hope she nominates President Obama Generic Brad Oct 2016 #21
Michelle would have his head. Arkana Oct 2016 #35
Me too! burrowowl Oct 2016 #24
She will have opportunities... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #31
GOP is changing their argument bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #5
I think the are going to reverse course and confirm him in the lame duck session DefenseLawyer Oct 2016 #7
Yeah- They're scared of who the candidate will be in the next administration. NBachers Oct 2016 #11
a president cimton should nominate obama rdking647 Oct 2016 #12
Except that Obama isn't interested ... n/t moonscape Oct 2016 #14
That has been said about a thousand times... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #32
Or Bill Clinton :) n/t forgotmylogin Oct 2016 #16
Too old... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #33
What about Michelle Obama? forgotmylogin Oct 2016 #38
What about awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #39
Garland will not be seated LoverOfLiberty Oct 2016 #13
Where are you getting that? Has Reid made any indication *at all* .... Hekate Oct 2016 #36
Not that I know of LoverOfLiberty Oct 2016 #41
This is the first salvo of the lame duck session hearings alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #15
Great, now let's start the treason trial against the GOP leaders for undermining the US Constitution TeamPooka Oct 2016 #17
You mean those Saintly Self-righteous Christian Senators bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #20
This is quite a curious situation. They have no idea what Trump might do if he's elected. truthisfreedom Oct 2016 #22
They know who Trump's SCOTUS nominees will be. He listed them. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #26
Republicans are scared Jeb Bartlet Oct 2016 #25
Some of them are also scared Tinyhands might actually win. Hekate Oct 2016 #37
Their fear is that Clinton would nominate someone like Ginsburg. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2016 #27
Depends on who wins the Senate Retired George Oct 2016 #28
and we have a winner dembotoz Oct 2016 #29
The filibuster does not need to go... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #34
For a second there, I thought this meant the GOP wouldn't confirm ANY new justices 'til 2021. Ken Burch Oct 2016 #40

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
1. It's not "The Scalia Seat", asshole - elections have consequences
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 06:47 PM
Oct 2016

Obama even nominated a compromise candidate!

I'll stick by my original prediction: Lame Duck confirmation of Garland.

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
2. If Hillary wins and we get the Senate Obama should withdraw his nomination
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 06:53 PM
Oct 2016

The Senate MUST abolish the filibuster (at least for judicial nominations, including Supreme Court) and Hillary should nominate a true progressive. Then on her second pick she should nominate Garland. They need to learn a lesson.

chuckie29

(9 posts)
6. Why should she nominate Garland at all?
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:14 PM
Oct 2016

If the Democrats win the Senate, name Michelle Obama and then Elizabeth Warren and then Cornell West and then Noam Chomsky. I hope that Garland's nomination is withdrawn the day before the election. Show the Republicans the price of playing games with the Supreme Court.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
9. Is this sarcasm??
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:47 PM
Oct 2016

Cause the idea that anyone would be stupid enough to nominate West or Chomsky is just laughable. No senate, Democratic or Republican would approve them.

And Warren is too old. And do not accuse me of ageism. She would be fine but any president is going to think more strategic and nominate some with potentially 30 years of service in them.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
8. Not happening
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:38 PM
Oct 2016

Our President is a classy guy and would never make such a dickish move to the guy he nominated. That is a Trump tactic where you step on your people for perceived advantage.

Your saying the president should not get to have his nominee voted on because you do not like him. Instead the next president should nominate a justice you support.

That sounds familiar...

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
10. I agree, I don't think of Obama as a weak character. He won't pull Garland back off his pick..nt
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:57 PM
Oct 2016

and then Obama would make a great Justice Of The SCOTUS.
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
30. No, he should not...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:49 PM
Oct 2016

he is currently the president, and there is currently an opening. This (Senate inaction) is a very disrespectful.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
4. OK, but it would work better if
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:03 PM
Oct 2016

1) Democrats win control of the Senate,

and then

2) President Clinton nominates a super liberal.

Secretary Clinton should not name any possible choices before the election, especially when she is doing as well as she is now. Leave that to tRump.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
21. I hope she nominates President Obama
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:41 PM
Oct 2016

Let the GOP choke on that! A constitutional scholar and a former president. No one can reasonably stop that juggernaut selection.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
35. Michelle would have his head.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 08:42 PM
Oct 2016

She's sick of Washington, and I don't blame her. If Obama were to follow in Taft's footsteps and become the second President to serve on the Supreme Court, she'd probably hate him forever.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
31. She will have opportunities...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:50 PM
Oct 2016

PBO is the president now, and the Senate needs to be shamed into doing their job.

bucolic_frolic

(43,148 posts)
5. GOP is changing their argument
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:05 PM
Oct 2016

Not Obama's pick is now "most conservative justice" pick

This is a trial balloon

When HRC nominates someone they will consistently say "Not conservative enough"
and continue the blockade

This is going to be very tiring

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
7. I think the are going to reverse course and confirm him in the lame duck session
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:20 PM
Oct 2016

And we will be stuck with another authoritarian on the Supreme Court.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
33. Too old...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:54 PM
Oct 2016

we have several more waiting to retire. We don't need 70 year old people- we need to hold the court for more than 3 years.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
39. What about
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 01:11 AM
Oct 2016

actual judges? There are enough out there that we don't have to depend on dynasties to fill seats.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
13. Garland will not be seated
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 08:36 PM
Oct 2016

Harry Reid will not allow a lame duck Senate to name Garland to the Supreme Court.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
36. Where are you getting that? Has Reid made any indication *at all* ....
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 12:09 AM
Oct 2016

...that he thinks Garland is unacceptable?

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
41. Not that I know of
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:32 PM
Oct 2016

and he fully expects that Hillary would renominate Garland. But if Democrats retake the Senate, there is no reason for him to cooperate with McConnell and his ilk.

Sorry I can't find anything concrete on this right now. I would say it was just my opinion but it was much talked about earlier this summer.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. This is the first salvo of the lame duck session hearings
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:18 PM
Oct 2016

In other words, they know Trump is finished and need to lock in Garland.

bucolic_frolic

(43,148 posts)
20. You mean those Saintly Self-righteous Christian Senators
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:36 PM
Oct 2016

the ones who took an oath on the Bible to uphold the Constitution
and faithfully execute their duties?

Lyin' Hypocrites - all of 'em!
Treason is exactly it

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
22. This is quite a curious situation. They have no idea what Trump might do if he's elected.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:45 PM
Oct 2016

And they know for sure they won't like what Hillary does. They've got a really good choice at the moment. It would be really humorous if Obama withdrew his nomination but that will never happen. Obama does things because he means them. He's definitely not capricious.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
26. They know who Trump's SCOTUS nominees will be. He listed them.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 01:11 AM
Oct 2016

They're all right wing nut jobs, right off the Heritage Foundation's wish list.

Jeb Bartlet

(141 posts)
25. Republicans are scared
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 01:09 AM
Oct 2016

that Trump is going to lose. Now they want to vote on Garland. Well bummer for them, Clinton will be in office and she can make her own decisions on Scotus nominee.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
27. Their fear is that Clinton would nominate someone like Ginsburg.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 02:40 AM
Oct 2016

Garland will move the court to the left, but not as far left as it could go. The only reason Garland has not been confirmed is because we have a black President and every Republican in the Senate would rather perform cunnilingus on a Pit bull that give Obama a win.

 

Retired George

(332 posts)
28. Depends on who wins the Senate
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 05:21 AM
Oct 2016

If Schumer becomes majority leader, kiss the filibuster goodbye! President Clinton will have more leeway to go left, although some DINOs will still be there.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
34. The filibuster does not need to go...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:57 PM
Oct 2016

it needs to be the way it used to be- as long as you can hold the floor, you can keep it going. What now constitutes a filibuster is a joke.

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