2 men wounded by accidental discharge at Florida gun show
Source: Associated Press
2 men wounded by accidental discharge at Florida gun show
Oct 4, 4:18 AM EDT
FORT MYERS, Fla. (AP) -- Authorities say two men were wounded when a gun accidentally discharged at a southwest Florida gun show.
The News-Press (https://goo.gl/qv0aVt ) reports that the accident occurred Sunday in North Fort Myers at the Lee Civic Center.
The Lee County Sheriff's Office says one man was reloading a gun when it fired. The bullet hit the man's finger and then hit another man's foot. Officials are classifying the shooting as an accident and no criminal charges are expected.
Authorities didn't provide details about the extent of the men's injuries.
Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GUN_SHOW_INJURIES_FLORIDA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-10-04-04-18-16
(Short article, no more at link.)
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)Negligent, not accident.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Words matter.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)Grammar, not grammer.
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)When people, myself included, correct grammar or spelling in another post, it always seems like they make a spelling or grammatical error in their correction.
I try to spell check and proof my posts before I hit "post", but inevitably I always screw it up.
EDIT: And lo and behold...I did it again.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)What specifically removes 'accident' as an accurate descriptor? Was it desirable? Did it occur intentionally? Did it result in harm or loss?
Accident: an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss
(additionally, prior to advertising our own quick wit through the correction of others, we should practice all due diligence to correct ourselves forehand as well, else advertise ourselves as holding others to a higher standard than we may in fact, hold ourselves to...)
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)Henceforth negligent.
ileus
(15,396 posts)probably a glock.
Yonnie3
(17,434 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts). . . there's no law against being dumb as a rock.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)They'd have to lock up most of the state!
Sancho
(9,067 posts)People Control, Not Gun Control
This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that werent secured are out of control in our society. As such, heres what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. Im not debating the legal language, I just think its the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because its clear that they should never have had a gun.
1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learners license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.
Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a drivers license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)It helps assure that people know what they are doing and are mature enough to own a firearm. It makes us all safer, just as licensing drivers makes us safer.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)Those who care enough about gun issues don't like your ideas and those who like your ideas don't care enough about guns (or don't have enough clout) to do something.
But follow some reasoning please and address a few questions:
The Bill of Rights was established to "...prevent misconstruction or abuse of (government) powers..." by protecting certain rights of the people. (Side note: It doesn't say citizens nor does it say residents; it says people.) What gives you the idea that the government could or should license a protected right? Assuming you have a justifiable and ethical defense for that, what makes you think people should be required to prove their emotional and mental suitability?
Who is it takes develops mental and emotional criteria for this 'superficial worthiness' exam?
Who bears the financial burden of challenging this judgement used to suppress the exercise of a protected right?
In specific, would people under a certain temporary stress be subject to restrictions? Would a hostile divorce qualify? If one of the partners was granted an order of protection, be allowed in spite of the emotional situation or given a pass for general protection?
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)Just another example of why knuckle draggers should not be allowed to have guns.
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)when you love your guns
jpak
(41,757 posts)idiots
yup
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)The NRA wants to say that "guns don't kill people" but they want us to believe that guns accidentally discharge. Can't have it both ways.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)that this was a negligent discharge, not an accidental one.
hack89
(39,171 posts)which means operator negligence.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... Florida Men. Geez. News reporting these days!
packman
(16,296 posts)Hate to see anyone shot , but somehow that seems appropriate with a loaded gun at a gun show. Maybe the event should have been advertised as a "Gun and Bullet" show.
truthisfreedom
(23,146 posts)Everything is wrong with this article. What happened and how it was reported.
Aristus
(66,328 posts)How could this happen?