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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 11:28 AM Oct 2016

Dozens of former GOP lawmakers announce opposition to Trump

Source: The Hill

October 06, 2016, 11:02 am

A group of 30 former GOP lawmakers signed a blistering open letter to Republicans on Thursday, warning that Donald Trump lacks the “intelligence” and temperament to be president and urging the party to reject the GOP nominee at the polls on Nov. 8.

The group includes several former lawmakers who have openly opposed Trump from the start, including former Sen. Gordon Humphrey (R-N.H.) and former Rep. Vin Weber (R-Minn.). But more than half of the former lawmakers on the list are announcing their opposition to Trump for the first time.

The group includes former committee chairmen, lawmakers from swing-states with decades of experience on Capitol Hill, one of the first openly gay members of Congress, and one member who led investigations on Capitol Hill into scandals involving the Clintons.

“Our party's nominee this year is a man who makes a mockery of the principles and values we have cherished and which we sought to represent in Congress,” the group said in a statement. “Given the enormous power of the office, every candidate for president must be judged rigorously in assessing whether he or she has the competence, intelligence, knowledge, understanding, empathy, judgment, and temperament necessary to keep America on a safe and steady course,” the letter continues. “Donald Trump fails on each of those measures, and he has proven himself manifestly unqualified to be president.”

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Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/299592-dozens-of-former-gop-lawmakers-announce-opposition-to-trump



The full list of signers:

Steve Bartlett (R-Texas)

Bob Bauman (R-Md.)

Sherwood Boehlert (R-N.Y.)

Jack Buechner (R-Mo.)

Tom Campbell (R-Calif.)

Bill Clinger (R-Penn.)

Tom Coleman (R-Mo.)

Geoff Davis (R-Ky.)


Mickey Edwards (R-Okla.)

Harris Fawell (R-Ill.)

Ed Foreman (R-Texas) (R-NM)

Amo Houghton, Jr. (R-N.Y.)

Gordon Humphrey (Senator, R-N.H.)

Bob Inglis (R-S.C.)

Jim Kolbe (R-Ariz.)

Steve Kuykendall (R-Calif.)

Jim Leach (R-Iowa)

Pete McCloskey (R-Calif.)

Connie Morella (R-Md.)

Mike Parker (R-Mo.)

Tom Petri (R-Wis.)

John Porter (R-Ill.)

Claudine Schneider (R-R.I.)

John “Joe” Schwarz (R-Mich.)

Chris Shays (R-Conn.)

Peter Smith (R-Vt.)

Edward Weber (R-Ohio)
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Dozens of former GOP lawmakers announce opposition to Trump (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2016 OP
Meanwhile, the current crop twiddles their thumbs. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2016 #1
Precisely! The current crop are just a bunch of mooching slugs. ffr Oct 2016 #2
On the other hand the majority on that list are also to blame for people like Rubio, Ryan and Trumps cstanleytech Oct 2016 #7
Vin Weber, the poster child marybourg Oct 2016 #27
They are scared of a revengeful tyrannical Donald J tRump, just in case he wins by slim chance. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #3
Yep. They should go down with the ship. TonyPDX Oct 2016 #11
Yes, key word being "former" nt hibbing Oct 2016 #14
I guess working only 111 days this year is to much for Ryan and McConnell turbinetree Oct 2016 #18
Jim Leach is gonna sting in Iowa alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #4
bunch of late-come Johnnies vlyons Oct 2016 #5
They didn't reform after the Romney debacle LakeArenal Oct 2016 #6
With the exception of Chris Shays (who should have been a Democrat), they really are. forest444 Oct 2016 #8
Good I suppose, but FAR too late. rivegauche Oct 2016 #9
You have to admire the way he's bringing people together. TonyPDX Oct 2016 #10
Yes. A modern day version of Capt. Smith of Titanic fame. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2016 #12
At least Capt Smith awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #28
It is an amazing list of states they represent. eom IllinoisBirdWatcher Oct 2016 #13
They waited this long, to make sure Drumpf PunksMom Oct 2016 #15
Welcome to DU, PunksMom! Just goes to show us all - the term "chickenhawk" applies more broadly calimary Oct 2016 #20
Absolutely agree Calimary! PunksMom Oct 2016 #25
Shocked to see Jim Kolbe on that list. Coventina Oct 2016 #16
WOW! Trump "has proven himself manifestly unqualified to be president.” LOL. Coyotl Oct 2016 #17
While in Texas they have this going on .............a hypocrite, who's only concern is the ....... turbinetree Oct 2016 #19
Whatcha gonna do Ranch Penis? NBachers Oct 2016 #21
Too little .... too late BlueCollar Oct 2016 #22
Former California Congressman, Pete McCloskey, bailed on the Republican party years ago (2007)... Brother Buzz Oct 2016 #23
How about denouncing the currently elected obstructionist swine. RaymondLuxuryYacht Oct 2016 #24
K&R red dog 1 Oct 2016 #26

ffr

(22,669 posts)
2. Precisely! The current crop are just a bunch of mooching slugs.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 11:40 AM
Oct 2016

But don't worry, they're come back to the center after they're out of office and tell us that back then (today), we were right all along.

Go Hillary Clinton and down ballot Democrats!!!

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
7. On the other hand the majority on that list are also to blame for people like Rubio, Ryan and Trumps
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 11:51 AM
Oct 2016

rise to power in todays GOP because they decided that their goal of gaining majority control in the House and Senate was more important than the American people as a whole so they courted the most extremist voters that they could find in order to achieve that goal.
They got what they wanted but its not without consequences.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
18. I guess working only 111 days this year is to much for Ryan and McConnell
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 01:22 PM
Oct 2016

this all they have worked this year, 111 days out of 365 days, then to top it all off , they talk out of both sides of there mouths, saying this and that about dumpster, that they don't condone what he has said, but will vote for him to have that Supreme Court and have him pencil whipping bills on there agenda.

https://www.legistorm.com/member_of_congress_salaries.html

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
5. bunch of late-come Johnnies
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 11:44 AM
Oct 2016

but I guess better late than never. I have very serious doubts that the Republican party has the will or integrity to reform itself and learn from the current debacle.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
6. They didn't reform after the Romney debacle
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 11:48 AM
Oct 2016

Ole Rinsed Penis did an "autopsy" and defined the problems. I guess their "reform" is doubling down and getting even a worse candidate.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
8. With the exception of Chris Shays (who should have been a Democrat), they really are.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 11:52 AM
Oct 2016

Most of them helped create the monster the GOP is today.

rivegauche

(601 posts)
9. Good I suppose, but FAR too late.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 12:04 PM
Oct 2016

The GOP establishment is oblivious to what at least half their base has morphed into: hateful idiots, deplorables, racists, etc. Fiddled while Rome was burning, and all that. Now they can't control them anymore and they're panicking. Which is fine by me. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

PunksMom

(440 posts)
15. They waited this long, to make sure Drumpf
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 12:52 PM
Oct 2016

has a snowball's chance in hell of winning, no threat from him, and they think they're making themselves look good. I hope all republican's fail miserably in the senate. It's time to clean house!

calimary

(81,250 posts)
20. Welcome to DU, PunksMom! Just goes to show us all - the term "chickenhawk" applies more broadly
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 01:36 PM
Oct 2016

than just to war.

The "chickenhawks" of wartime are those who want war and root for it and are the first to grab their cheerleader pompoms and go "Rah! Rah! Rah!" for war. It's safe to do so because THEY don't have to suit up and ship out and get their own hands dirty. These assholes are taking the safe way out, too. The REAL brave ones are those who actually willingly get their hands dirty, and sign on early, and put their own skin in the game and their own necks at risk. The REAL brave ones in this case are those who stuck their necks out early against Donald Trump, and didn't check which way the wind was blowing before they signed on and put their own skin in the game.

None of these individuals qualifies. Not one. To step up NOW, when you're pretty sure it's safe to do so because you're pretty sure Trump is gonna lose - is bullshit. Cowardly. If any one of them wanted to have real credibility, and show REAL courage, he or she would have stepped up when it was less comfortable or "safe" to do so.

Color me not impressed. Glad they finally spoke up (and/or they finally came to their senses), but they're WAY WAY WAY late to the game.

Same thing with the major media, too. Glad they're FINALLY waking up about how horrible Trump is and how unfit he is for the Presidency, but the time to do so that may have been truly meaningful and courageous, was early-on when his ambitions could have been headed off. The courageous ones - the ones who show TRUE LEADERSHIP, march at or near the front of the line, helping to cut the path through the jungle, willing to take the cuts and scrapes and the hazards ahead for the good of the rest of the group. The chickenshits are the ones safely back at the end of the line, hollering "yeah, me too!"

PunksMom

(440 posts)
25. Absolutely agree Calimary!
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 03:51 PM
Oct 2016

At this stage of the game, it doesn't impress me at all. Like you, this opposition to this disgusting human should have been immediate & game changing. Now they are stuck with this moron. So happy to be a Democrat forevermore😊

Coventina

(27,116 posts)
16. Shocked to see Jim Kolbe on that list.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 01:06 PM
Oct 2016

That guy was the pits.



A reminder that the enemy of my enemy does not make him my friend.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
19. While in Texas they have this going on .............a hypocrite, who's only concern is the .......
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 01:34 PM
Oct 2016

U.S. Supreme Court, that's it, nothing else, that was and his the agenda, and the "republican party" and there enablers created this and they should live with this, they are trying to have it both ways.

We may have a democratic president, but it does no good if the republicans control the house and the senate, and what the right winger from Texas is proving is that he has no principles, and those in the other states calling people to vote republican, they can't have it both ways-----------enough is enough


http://crooksandliars.com/2016/10/ted-cruz-makes-phone-calls

Brother Buzz

(36,423 posts)
23. Former California Congressman, Pete McCloskey, bailed on the Republican party years ago (2007)...
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 02:26 PM
Oct 2016

Here's Pete McCloskey's e-mail announcing his decision to switch parties. Can you say scathing?

•••••••••••

McCloskeys have been Republicans in California since 1859, the year before Lincoln's election. My great grandfather, John Henry McCloskey, orphaned in the great Irish potato famine of 1843, came to California in 1853 as a boy of 16, and joined the party just before the Civil War.

By 1890 he and my grandfather, both farmers, made up two of the twelve members of the Republican Central Committee of Merced County. My father's most memorable expletive came when I was a boy of 10 or 11: "That damn Roosevelt is trying to pack the Supreme Court!"

I registered Republican in 1948 after reaching the age of 21. We were the party of civil rights, of free choice for women and fiscal responsibility. Since Teddy Roosevelt, we had favored environmental protection, and most of all we stood for fiscal responsibility, honesty, ethics and limited government intrusion into our personal lives and choices. We accepted that one the duties of wealth was to pay a higher rate of income tax, and that the estates of the wealthy should contribute to the national treasury in reasonable measure.

I was proud to serve with Republicans like Gerry Ford, the first George Bush and Bob Dole.

In 1994, however, Newt Gingrich brought a new kind of Republicanism to power, and the election of George W. Bush in 2000 has led to wholly new concept of governance. The bureaucracy has mushroomed in size and power. The budget deficits have become astronomical. Our historical separation of church and state has been blurred. We have seen a succession of ethical scandals, congressmen taking bribes, and abuse of power by both the Republican House leadership and the highest appointees of the White House.

The single cardinal principle of political science, that power corrupts, has come to apply not only to Republican leaders like Tom DeLay, Duke Cunningham, Bob Ney and John Doolittle, but to a succession of White House officials and appointees. The stench of Jack Abramoff has permeated much of the Washington Republican establishment.

The Justice Department, guardian of of our rule of law, has been compromised. It's third ranking official, a graduate of Pat Robertson's dubious law school, has taken the 5th Amendment.

Men who have never felt the fear of combat, and who largely dodged military service in their youth, have led us into grievous wars in far off places with no thought of the diplomacy, grace and respect for other peoples and their cultures which has been an American trademark for at least the last two thirds of a century. We have lost the respect and affection of most of the world outside our borders. My son, Peter, one of the U.S. prosecutors at The Hague of the war crimes in Serbia and elsewhere, tells me that people of other countries no longer look at the country which countenances torture as a beacon for the world and the rule of law.

Earth Day, that bi-partisan concept of Gaylord Nelson in 1970, has become the focus of almost hatred by today's Republican leadership. Many still argue that global warming is a hoax, and that Bush has been right to demean and suppress the arguments of scientists at the E.P.A., Fish & Wildlife and U.S.Geological Survey.

I say a pox on them and their values.

Until the past few weeks, I had hoped that the party could right itself, returning to the values of the Eisenhowers, Fords and George H. W. Bush.

What finally turned me to despair, however, was listening to the reports, or watching on C-Span, a whole series of congressional oversight hearings on C-Span, held by old friends and colleagues like Pat Leahy, Henry Waxman, Norm Dicks, Nick Rahall, Danny Akaka and others, trying to learn the truth on the misdeeds and incompetence of the Bush Administration. Time after time I saw Republican Members of the House and Senate. speak out in scorn or derision about these exercises of Congress oversight responsibility being "witch-hunts" or partisan attempts to distort the actions of people like the head of the General Service Administration and the top political appointees in the Justice and Interior Departments. Disagreement turned into disgust.

I finally concluded that it was a fraud for me to rema'n a member of this modern Republican Party, that there were only a few like Chuck Hegel, Jack Warner, Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins I could respect.

Two of the best, Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, and Jim Leach of Iowa, after years of battling for balance and sanity, were defeated last November, and it seems that every Republican presidential candidate is now vying for the support of the Pat Robertsons and Jerry Falwells rather than talking about a return to the values of the party I joined nearly 59 years ago. My favorite spokesmen have beome Senators Jim Webb and Barack Obama.

And so it was, that while at the Woodland courthouse the other day, passing by the registrar's office, I filled out the form to re-register as a Democrat.

The issues Helen (McCloskey) and I care about most, public financing of elections, a reliable paper ballot trail, independent re-districting to replace gerrymandering, the right of a woman to choose not to bring a child into the world, a reversal of the old Proposition 13 and term limits which have so hurt California's once superb education system and the competence of our Legislature, are now almost universally opposed by California's elected Republicans, and the occasional attempts at reform by our Governor are looked on with grim disdain by most of them.

From Helen's and my standpoint, being farmers in Yolo County gives us the opportunity to work for purposes which were once Republican, but can no longer be found at Republican conventions and discussions.

I hope this answers your questions about the party and a government I have served in either civil or military service under ten presidents, five Republican and five Democrat ... I doubt it will be of much interest other than to our friends, but it has been a decision not easily taken.

Respectfully, Pete McCloskey

24. How about denouncing the currently elected obstructionist swine.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 02:28 PM
Oct 2016

They can hit the iceberg without trump's presence.

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