Pence chides woman calling for 'revolution' if Clinton wins

[TomCADem]

Source: CNN

Newton, Iowa (CNN) — Indiana Gov. Mike Pence dissuaded a female supporter Tuesday from starting a revolution in the wake of a Hillary Clinton victory in a passionate exchange here in Iowa during a town hall.

The woman, who identified herself as Rhonda, expressed concern about voter fraud in the upcoming elections saying that she was scared of the outcomes.

"Our lives depend on this election. Our kids' futures depend on this election and I will tell you just for me, and I don't want this to happen but I will tell you for me personally if Hillary Clinton gets in, I myself, I'm ready for a revolution because we can't have her in," she said emotionally.

Pence shook his head a little, saying: "Don't say that."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/mike-pence-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-election-2016/index.html

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I do not know whether this reflects well or poorly on Pence. On the one hand, Pence is not going the bat shit crazy route and seems to be trying to manage the level of rhetoric that is emanating from his campaign. On the other hand, Pence is enabling and giving legitimacy to Trump whose efforts to stir up unrest are treasonous.

[forest444]

1. You just try it sweetheart.

And bring Sharron Angle and Failin' Palin along. It wouldn't be any fun without them.

[snooper2]

37. This Rhonda lady will be a great revolutionary leader with her gold hat

[bulloney]

45. Is her hat made out of tinfoil?

[hibbing]

2. But he's aready batshit crazy n/t

[emulatorloo]

3. So how exactly is Hillary threatening her life and her children's lives?

[oberliner]

26. This is the insanity the Fox News and the crazy RW talk show people have convinced folks of

It really is a testament to how powerful the Hillary hate can be.

[saltpoint]

4. "What you will do, madam, is respect

the decision of the majority vote. It's expected of you as a citizen in a Constitutional republic."

Wish he'd said that instead.

[rpannier]

16. In this instance I'm going with Pence's response

It would have lead to an argument since the woman bringing it up was already living in the 'voting fraud' universe of republikkan politics
I think his handling of it was probably best since she appears to be unable to be reasoned with

I think he handled it about as well as you can with someone who is weird
Move on ASAP

[saltpoint]

39. Could be. Pence's politics are

repulsive to us, but he does have a level of self-awareness that his running mate lacks.

In pretty short order I think Pence's polish and poise are going to be put to the test, since it's clear quite a few other Republicans want the same job in 2020 that Pence does. A Pence-Cruz feud looks almost inevitable. That could be a lot of fun to watch.

[rpannier]

48. The Inquisition Deux

Both trying to out Torquemada each other

[saltpoint]

49. : ) And may both suffer career-ending

political injuries.

[barbiegeek]

36. Can I copy what you wrote and put it on twitter. It's brilliant

[saltpoint]

38. Hi, barbiegeek. Sure -- but I think it's

probably from a high school history class many moons back.

The sad part is that Pence (although he did talk the woman out of her comment somewhat) just didn't go far enough. Progressives endured 8 years of Dubya, and my god that was a hell of a long haul.

[csziggy]

40. Heck liberals put up with 8 years of frickin' Reagan followed by 4 years of Bush Sr!

I'm old enough I remember struggling through 8 years of Noxious Nixon and the despair that his re-election in 1972 gave us.

When Dubya was elected, then re-elected I seriously considered moving out of the country but I have far too many ties to pack up and leave. And I love this country too much to leave it to whackadoodles like that woman who was talking to Pence.

My ancestors fought for this country to BE a country and for our independence from English kings. I'm not leaving and I'm not going to let nuts like most of the Trump supporter destroy my country.

[saltpoint]

41. Love it. You make way too much sense for

an average voter!

And you're right about all those long years under GOP fixers and thugs and mediocrities.

There are video clips of John Kennedy speaking at various times and places. After listening to a news cycle now of Trump and Pence, I like to listen to Kennedy on those clips. It brings back a very high standard of public service and offers relief from the tawdriness of Trump's public words and actions.

[treestar]

51. Well put!

[saltpoint]

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Thank you.

[trixie]

5. I hate that Trump makes we agree with Pence

Normally I would hate everything he stands for. Pence being the voice of reason?

[egeorgequi]

54. Fear not, Pence is just like the rest of them. Maybe Shinier,

but the thing he didn't say to her is - Don't Do That, he only said don't talk about it

[trixie]

55. Yep you are rfight

Pence slunk back into the slime trail.

[Missn-Hitch]

6. I'm your huckleberry.

[orwell]

7. That's Deplorable!

[Hulk]

8. FBI needs to keep an eye on these nutjobs.

There are hundreds of these deplorable idiots just crazy enough to do something violent too.

[Chicago1980]

9. It was a kind of tepid pushback IMO.

[Midnight Writer]

10. Absolutely lukewarm. He went on to say the real revolution will be November 8.

Hardly an effective push back against someone who seriously believes that the Trump support will rise up and overthrow our country.

Trump will tacitly encourage this kind of BS. He will fell vindicated if there is violence and bloodshed over his defeat.

[DFW]

11. Trump doesn't even agree with him on the date

Trump just misspoke and said in public that election day was November 28th.

[trusty elf]

18. Quote: "...if we don't win, all it is is a little asterick* in history."

*sic

He's asterick rolling his supporters!

I think "Little Asterick" is a good nickname for Drumpf.

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[DFW]

20. Maybe he sees himself as Asterix?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix_(character)

[trusty elf]

25. ......

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[DFW]

31. That brings up a question better left unanswered

If you brought that to France before the election, would the French arrest you or give you an award for service pour la république?

[trusty elf]

32. Bonne question!

I'll see if I can get a reaction from any of my French friends.

[DFW]

35. Keep me informed!

I actually met one guy down there (2ième to be exact) yesterday who only half-jokingly hoped Trump would get elected, but he admitted it was for purely selfish reasons (je l'éspère pour moi, mais pas pour vous). He is a dealer in precious metals and knows the price of gold would triple overnight if Trump won. Today, I'm near Utrecht, where you won't find a Trump supporter anywhere unless some idiot American tourist with more money than brains is parading around somewhere.

[alp227]

12. Sorry Mikey. You courted these voters, you own her words. nt

[Cha]

13. trump has brainwashed that shite into their wee heads..

now it's his less crazy VP running mate who has to be the voice of reason.

pence is as sociopathic as they come.. but sounds like he's not into blood shed.

[TeamPooka]

14. "We don't have revolutions. This is America. We have elections every 4 years. Revolutions are for

countries where you don't get to express yourself at the ballot box."
That's the correct answer Gov. Pence.

[Lucky Luciano]

33. But voter fraud!!!!!11!!!!!1

[treestar]

52. This!

Exactly

[C Moon]

15. it used to be "the bible told me so." Now it's "Fox News told me so." or "AM radio told me so."

[rpannier]

17. I think Pence will be the second happiest person in the USA after HRC the Wednesday after election

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I think he sees himself as the guy standing on the beach and here comes the tidal wave
No place to run or hide
He f*cked up worse on this decision than he did on the hate bill he signed

He worked Treasury for Dumbya, signed the hate bill and agreed to be Trump's Veep
Doesn't bode well for his own judgment

[Retired George]

21. And Here She Is

Note that she's wearing something shiny on her head...

[PersonNumber503602]

22. Kinda reminds me of the election when Obama was running against McCain

and McCain had some loon talking about how Obama was muslim or something along those lines. McCain had to reign the craziness in. They (or at least their buddies) help fuel the flames that lead to these people thinking they have "normal" views, and sometimes they end up having to confront it head on. I think it's amusing when it happens.

[rpannier]

24. I think he did a pretty good job of dealing with her

I watched her whatever you wanna call it
When he told her not to talk like that she sounded ready to argue with him
Challenge these people, disengage (don't get into an argument because the audience could be full of these whck jobs) and move on
It was good that he mentioned that elections are held at the state level
I think I heard murmurs (maybe they were unaware of that)
The rest of it... meh

[Quantess]

23. Pence seems so oddly reasonable, next to Donald Trump.

He looks sane and composed in comparison.

[HAB911]

27. Trump has lowered the bar so far

Pense seems sane

[Shankapotomus]

29. This is what 30 years

of brainwashing will do. Many on the Right are now ready for violence. Who couldn't have predicted this?

Idiots.

[Turbineguy]

30. I would tell this woman to take heart.

Her candidate lost the election in 1932. But a year later he was made Chancellor of Germany, started World War II and many millions died. So she still has hope.

[mark67]

34. There ain't going to be any revolution folks...

After HRC wins gun sales will soar and there may be a few random acts of violence but that will be about it.

And we learned from W.--Palin---Tea Party---Romney---these people lack the power of introspection. I do predict that a large group may officially break with the Republican Party. And I think Trump will start a viewer subscription/radio talk gig similar to the way Beck made his millions.

But there ain't going to be no revolution. Most of those calling for it are middle aged and living on social security/pensions/disability. This includes the younger set as well: the gun/Ford F-150 types, many of them in debt, with their share of closet prescription drug/opiate addicts.

History shows to have a revolution you need to have at least 20% of the population who are willing to die for a cause. They have the 20% but not the willingness to suffer great discomfort, much less place themselves in mortal danger for the cause. The bird sanctuary guys demonstrated that.

There are the 1%er's and then there is everyone else. I wonder how long it will take for these guys to realize we are on the same side.

[Missn-Hitch]

43. I wish I could agree with your assessment. It's a pressure cooker with plenty of fuel.

Plenty.

Fuel = The Trump Happy Time Patriot Freedom Liberty Radio/TV channels

Talk about a cash cow.

"...there may be a few random acts of violence but that will be about it."

They are like chronic illness. Perpetual wounding and disease. 20%? All they need is better organization which is a stretch, I realize.

Hoping for a resounding ass whoopin' which takes the WH, House and Senate.

[truthisfreedom]

46. When Adolf Sniffler loses, they may have to take his little trumpet lips into custody

for treason or sedition or inciting to riot, and that may trigger violence in the streets itself.

It's my fond hope that he'll just go off and pretend he knows how to golf somewhere far away.

[FigTree]

47. There will be a significant mental-health break-down

Lots of these folks have serious underlying psychological/psychiatric issues and, as a professional, I predict a large number of decompensations after the election.

[Coyotl]

50. Probably staged. Pence promoteds volunteering to be a poll watcher. That's voter suppression.

[Bucky]

56. Good for him saying that. Where'd they get the silly idea their lives depend on this election?