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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 12:38 AM Oct 2016

Clinton camp preparing for possibility Trump won't concede

Source: MSN/Associated Press

WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. — Hillary Clinton's campaign is increasingly preparing for the possibility that Donald Trump may never concede the presidential election should she win, a development that could enormously complicate the crucial early weeks of her preparations to take office.

Aiming to undermine any argument the Republican nominee may make about a "rigged" election, she hopes to roll up a large electoral vote margin in next month's election. That could repudiate the New York billionaire's message and project a governing mandate after the bitter, divisive presidential race.

Clinton's team is also keeping a close eye on statements by national Republican leaders, predicting they could play an important role in how Trump's accusations of electoral fraud might be perceived. That's according to several Clinton campaign aides, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss internal strategy.

Campaign officials stress they are not taking the outcome of the election for granted. But Clinton and her team have begun thinking about how to position their candidate during the postelection period. Long one of the country's most polarizing political figures, Clinton has begun telling audiences she'll need their help in healing the country.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-camp-preparing-for-possibility-trump-wont-concede/ar-AAjeYAR



Trump appears to be setting up his future media venture on the premise that he is the rightful President even if he were to lose. While this is not surprising, it could create instability if Hillary only scores a narrow victory with Republicans retaining majorities in Congress. Thus, it is a good idea for Democrats to try to run up the score as much as they can to avoid any idea that a message of hate, sexism and xenophobia represents a viable path to power.
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Clinton camp preparing for possibility Trump won't concede (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2016 OP
She should just ignore the fact that he exists. Just go about her business. After November 8... George II Oct 2016 #1
They must prepare for any eventual outcome relayerbob Oct 2016 #3
Agreed awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #15
There's really nothing he can gain from denial sotheyclaimDem Oct 2016 #2
But, If His Goal Is To Set-Up An Alt-Right Media Outlet... TomCADem Oct 2016 #4
I thought that Breitbart sotheyclaimDem Oct 2016 #7
But Imagine The Network Built Around A Self-Proclaimed President in Exile... TomCADem Oct 2016 #9
Welcome to DU! mahina Oct 2016 #11
Thanks! sotheyclaimDem Oct 2016 #13
Sarah Palin was enormously popular with those nutjobs. MADem Oct 2016 #16
Unless the election is insanely close as in 2000, with serious allegations of fraud plus recounts anneboleyn Oct 2016 #39
I think he will do anything he can to keep attention on himself The Genealogist Oct 2016 #28
Trumps KKK supporters will not be satisfied. rusty quoin Oct 2016 #5
There are plenty of Liberals GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #37
Just wait until Breitbart and the other vile hordes start demanding that Congress not recognize geek tragedy Oct 2016 #6
It's Scary and blue-wave Oct 2016 #8
Like she gives a shit if Trump concedes. Nov. 9, he's irrelevant to politics, she's #45. Coyotl Oct 2016 #10
"Long one of the country's most polarizing political figures, Clinton..." PSPS Oct 2016 #12
Misogyny on a nationwide scale milestogo Oct 2016 #14
The asshole is going to pretend to be a president in exile.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #17
He might find a place at the embassy in Ecuador if he behaves himself. Alternately, Siberia anamandujano Oct 2016 #34
Alternatively, Columbia with all that sniffing.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #38
Crush him at BlueMTexpat Oct 2016 #18
So what happens if Trump barely wins LiberalLovinLug Oct 2016 #19
In that case, break out the champagne, cigars, and blondes JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2016 #20
Yes, as a matter of fact, he could possibly win. EL34x4 Oct 2016 #24
Your post reads like right wing talking points Democat Oct 2016 #26
Keep whistling past the graveyard... EL34x4 Oct 2016 #27
Your concern is noted n/t NastyRiffraff Oct 2016 #29
That was bloody rude LiberalLovinLug Oct 2016 #33
You expect AA and Latino voters to sit home and let Trump win? emulatorloo Oct 2016 #30
only if the election heaven05 Oct 2016 #36
Not Constitutionally necessary. The racist rapist is toast. nt onehandle Oct 2016 #21
He WILL be toast AFTER the votes are counted. anamandujano Oct 2016 #35
ignore him or arrest him for sedition mwrguy Oct 2016 #22
Who cares if Sergeant Spraytan doesn't concede? Rocknrule Oct 2016 #25
I know the plan mercuryblues Oct 2016 #31
there is no legal requirement for him to concede. she does not need his concession. niyad Oct 2016 #32

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. She should just ignore the fact that he exists. Just go about her business. After November 8...
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 12:49 AM
Oct 2016

....he becomes a non-factor.

If she worries about him and his antics, she just feeds his after-election commercial promotions.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
3. They must prepare for any eventual outcome
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 12:55 AM
Oct 2016

That's Obama's 3-D chess, he plans responses for every foreseeable outcome. And no one, in any party, can argue that she doesn't go into things prepared!

sotheyclaimDem

(32 posts)
2. There's really nothing he can gain from denial
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 12:55 AM
Oct 2016

Baseless court challenges are a technical possibility, but wouldn't serve his objective (unless he wants to cause as much hassle as possible until January as revenge).

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
4. But, If His Goal Is To Set-Up An Alt-Right Media Outlet...
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:01 AM
Oct 2016

...that caters to the millions of right wing crazies who truly believe that foreigners are being funneled into the U.S. in order to vote for Democrats, and that he is the rightful President, then he needs to play along with this idea. Sure, he will not be successful, but the drama of his tantrum and the instability it creates could create buzz for a new media outlet that caters to the right wing alternate reality.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
9. But Imagine The Network Built Around A Self-Proclaimed President in Exile...
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:22 AM
Oct 2016

...with the roughly half of Republicans who think that Hillary Clinton has only won by virtue of the fact that non-Americans were permitted to fraudulently vote? I bet he can also get significant funding from Russia, as well as scoops from Russian hacks.

Put another way, right now, Brietbart is just one of many alt-right outlets like the Blaze, World Nut Daily, Etc. However, if you fold in Trump, and perhaps sign Sean Hannity, then you have crazy town dream team built around a self-proclaimed President. After all, Trump has a stronger following among the right wing base then most other establishment Republicans.

Finally, if you were Russia, wouldn't you offer financial support for this pro-Russian President. Trump would be like Edward Snowden on steroids.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
16. Sarah Palin was enormously popular with those nutjobs.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:04 AM
Oct 2016

She fired up her own internet channel and sold subscriptions.

That didn't last too long, though.

I don't think Trump has the staying power or discipline to head up a network. He's an evil asshole, but he's no Murdoch--Murdoch, at least, knows how to hang on to his money and the banks don't lock their doors when he walks by.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
39. Unless the election is insanely close as in 2000, with serious allegations of fraud plus recounts
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 08:54 PM
Oct 2016

I think the wind will go out of the Trump sails VERY quickly. Who will care? He will lose steam (he is already is as people have noted), and the alt-right types will move on to other "heroes." And I don't think the election will be anything like 2000 in terms of the numbers or recount craziness. And there are already sites devoted to alt-right conspiracy theories, "news," etc -- Breitbart, Alex Jones, plus many others on YouTube.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
28. I think he will do anything he can to keep attention on himself
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 12:03 PM
Oct 2016

He loves attention. He loves the swooning, worshipful crowds who are as blind to reality as he is. Even if he knows he has been soundly drubbed, he will still do whatever he can to keep attention on him.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
5. Trumps KKK supporters will not be satisfied.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:05 AM
Oct 2016

I don't know what they will do, but Trump primed them for violence.

His white supremacist followers have more ammo than other regular Americans. I don't know what they will do, but Don has implied the thing to do is strike back...nuts of the gun...strike back.

He wants armed followers to go to urban centers and intimidate black voters.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
37. There are plenty of Liberals
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 05:16 PM
Oct 2016

With no shortage of guns and ammo. Not that it will matter. If a bunch of Kluxers show up in the inner cities with guns, they will get themselves dead. And by police, not ordinary citizens.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. Just wait until Breitbart and the other vile hordes start demanding that Congress not recognize
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:06 AM
Oct 2016

the electoral votes cast by Florida and Pennsylvania.

Will Jeff Sessions join with Louie Gohmert to move to reject those states' electoral votes?

Such a motion wouldn't pass either house but it would provoke huge backlash.

blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
8. It's Scary and
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:16 AM
Oct 2016

Something that we all should be concerned with. What will they do after Hillary wins? With Donald refusing to acknowledge acceptance of this elections' result, it appears as though they have a plan "B" to me.

I would hate to see it. We as a people and a country are better than that. What happens in 4, 8, 12 years from now or in the off year congressional elections? Will they try to block any progress with Hillary as they did with Obama and with Bill? We need to stay strong and united for Hillary and for our country.

The other day I watched a video with Steve Schmidt, who was John McCain's campaign manager, almost at the point of tears. He stated that what happened in Germany in the 1930's was not because Fascism was strong, but because democracy was weak. He's spot on. We all need to remember this every day, stay strong and fight for our democracy in the years ahead.

Here's a video segment (a short 1:38) to the Steve Schmidt statement. Sorry for the grainy video and audio, but it's the best I could find at the moment.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
10. Like she gives a shit if Trump concedes. Nov. 9, he's irrelevant to politics, she's #45.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:22 AM
Oct 2016

Trump is getting trounced worse than Romney, Senate is about P=0.80 blue, House trending towards P=0.50 blue. Mandate ahead.

Sorry Donald, this isn't a country club you own. Go play in your own sand hole.

PSPS

(13,594 posts)
12. "Long one of the country's most polarizing political figures, Clinton..."
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:33 AM
Oct 2016

That's the key to a non-serious article. This is just the media ginning up more drama so they can keep viewers tuning in after the election to watch the ads they'll get to sell at a higher rate.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
14. Misogyny on a nationwide scale
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:54 AM
Oct 2016

is what makes her a polarizing figure, and puts her in a situation no other president-elect has ever been in. The king of misogyny will lose to a woman and try to create chaos.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
17. The asshole is going to pretend to be a president in exile....
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 03:14 AM
Oct 2016

It will never even OCCUR to him that he is a laughing stock.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
34. He might find a place at the embassy in Ecuador if he behaves himself. Alternately, Siberia
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:29 PM
Oct 2016

would give him a captive audience and following. It's all good.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
18. Crush him at
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 03:25 AM
Oct 2016

the polls! That is the best way.

Frivolous challenges will be treated accordingly, especially if there is an overwhelming margin in Hillary's favor.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
19. So what happens if Trump barely wins
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 05:00 AM
Oct 2016

but there is a lot of evidence of a lot of intimidation, poll closures, lineups, lost ballets etc... also having occurred in mostly Democratic strong ridings.

Has Trump and or his smarter demonic minions masterfully set it up so that our side's protest will have been neutered in that we laughed off HIS concerns earlier? i don't think they're that smart, but it may happen that way anyways.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
24. Yes, as a matter of fact, he could possibly win.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 11:14 AM
Oct 2016

The conventional wisdom today is Hillary is so far ahead that victory is all but assured, so why bother even showing up?

Meanwhile, over at Free Republic they're posting polls showing Trump squeaking into the lead. What if those polls are right and ours, with their huge Democratic samples, are wrong? What if Trump voters crawl through broken glass to go vote and ours, complacent and confident, stay home? What if the evening of November 8th catches us witnessing with dread as Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida slide into the Trump camp?

I, for one, don't think Hillary is as far ahead as others here believe she is. A lot can happen in the next two weeks.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
26. Your post reads like right wing talking points
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 11:38 AM
Oct 2016

"with their huge Democratic samples"

Good luck to you and Trump. Should probably be more subtle next time.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
27. Keep whistling past the graveyard...
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 11:55 AM
Oct 2016

Right wing talking points? Sure... Sorry, but a poll that has Hillary Clinton up by five points in Arizona is bullshit. Not hard to see how they drew this conclusion when the pollsters queried twice as many Democrat as Republican and independent voters combined.

So, yes, I'm a little concerned about the polling. Call it what you want.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
33. That was bloody rude
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:29 PM
Oct 2016

as is the poster below that insinuates EL34x4 is a concern troll.

We all want the same thing, for Hillary to win. Some want to warn of complacency.

I think this election is way different than other elections. You can't just go by polls. Not only is the 'Bradley Effect" in play, but there are also many normally non engaged people that only hear wingnut radio all day if they turn on their radio thanks to Clear Channel buying up all the stations, and Fox News at home. They will vote for Trump because he's a TV Star. Because he's NOT Hillary Clinton. Because he's a man. Because they want to see what happens. Because they hear how close it is and will get out in droves to prove the polls wrong.

See: "Brexit"

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
25. Who cares if Sergeant Spraytan doesn't concede?
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 11:26 AM
Oct 2016

I'm more worried about his gun nut followers. Especially since I'm a poll worker.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
31. I know the plan
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 12:28 PM
Oct 2016

If you all promise not to leak it to the press I'll tell you.


Promise?

ok.

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This is a White house replica in Mclean VA. The sale price is 4.65 Million. Clinton's campaign is in the process of buying it. They will let dump think he won and instill him in there. Of course Hillary will pay for his "staff" His secret service detail will consist of psych ward attendants. His Chief of staff will be a psychiatrist. The search is underway for a Pence look a like.

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