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molova

(543 posts)
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 03:26 AM Oct 2016

FBI Director James B. Comey under fire for his controversial decision on the Clinton email inquiry

Source: Washington Post

This time the loudest criticism has come from Clinton and her supporters, who said Friday that Comey had provided too little information about the nature of the new line of investigation and allowed Republicans to seize political ground as a result. The inquiry focuses on Clinton emails found on a computer used by former congressman Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.), now under investigation for sending sexually explicit messages to a minor, and top Clinton aide Huma Abedin, who is Weiner’s wife. The couple have since separated.

“It is extraordinary that we would see something like this just 11 days out from a presidential election,” John Podesta, the chairman of Clinton’s presidential campaign, said in a statement. “The Director owes it to the American people to immediately provide the full details of what he is now examining. We are confident this will not produce any conclusions different from the one the FBI reached in July.”

Officials familiar with Comey’s thinking said the director on Thursday faced a quandary over how to proceed once the emails, which number more than 1,000 and may duplicate some of those already reviewed, were brought to his attention.

Comey had just been briefed by a team of investigators who were seeking access to the emails. The director knew he had to move quickly because the information could leak out.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-director-james-b-comey-under-fire-for-his-controversial-decision-on-the-clinton-email-inquiry/2016/10/28/fbad009c-9d57-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_comey-810pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

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FBI Director James B. Comey under fire for his controversial decision on the Clinton email inquiry (Original Post) molova Oct 2016 OP
Hes plain incompetent at his job Foggyhill Oct 2016 #1
Comey is a political hack, and he is very competent at his job GreydeeThos Oct 2016 #2
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Oct 2016 #42
Yup. I truly think there is something much more malicious than simple incompetence on display here. WIProgressive88 Oct 2016 #44
He should be removed immediately mwrguy Oct 2016 #3
You don't think that wouldn't cause an even bigger shit storm? Upin Oct 2016 #14
Removed by who? former9thward Oct 2016 #43
Reports I've heard say that they don't even know for sure what they have and that it's possible Arkansas Granny Oct 2016 #4
I don't think it matters if the emails were already investigated forthemiddle Oct 2016 #8
Who said any emails had any classified information? LisaL Oct 2016 #12
Isn't that what was the FBI said during the intial press conference? Upin Oct 2016 #15
You seem to be confused as to what we are talking about. LisaL Oct 2016 #16
I was referring to the initial conference... Upin Oct 2016 #17
I am talking about these supposedly new emails Comey told the congress about. LisaL Oct 2016 #20
I think Comey went out of his way to say nothing either way... Upin Oct 2016 #21
He claims he doesn't know anything either way. LisaL Oct 2016 #22
That's not on him though... Upin Oct 2016 #23
How is it not on him? LisaL Oct 2016 #31
If he doesn't it comes out via Trump instead... Upin Oct 2016 #33
How would have Trump known about any of it? LisaL Oct 2016 #36
They do maintain public records of the status of the investigation (even if not in gritty detail)... Upin Oct 2016 #38
frickin FBI should investigate Trump's ties to Pooty-poot and how the emails wordpix Oct 2016 #47
Your allegations, while creative, are not supported by evidence. LanternWaste Nov 2016 #60
Which part do you find to be incorrect? Upin Nov 2016 #61
No, the FBI is supposed to wait until they know the emails matter! A rumor from Trump campaign anneboleyn Oct 2016 #55
Exactly, he was in a no-win situation. Ka hrnt Oct 2016 #35
What was going to leak? LisaL Oct 2016 #37
That they'd found a device/email would have leaked... Ka hrnt Oct 2016 #40
Seriously? LisaL Oct 2016 #41
What press conference? The last one by the FBI on any emails was back in July. George II Oct 2016 #26
That's what I was referring to... Upin Oct 2016 #27
That's speculation. yardwork Oct 2016 #30
obama should demand his resignation and an immediate investigation into Comey beachbum bob Oct 2016 #5
Yes, but that would reek of political payback groundloop Oct 2016 #25
Neither Obama (who appointed him) or Clinton can get rid of him. former9thward Oct 2016 #45
The director in 1993 was fired, so yes they can be fired. This is gross abuse by Comey (imho) anneboleyn Oct 2016 #56
Sesisions in 1993 was fired for cause. former9thward Oct 2016 #57
well Comey has sealed his fate, I think Hillary will be looking for a new FBI director wordpix Oct 2016 #48
She'll have to wait a while. Sand Rat Expat Oct 2016 #59
Comey's explanation to FBI employees: "...there is significant risk of being misunderstood." riversedge Oct 2016 #6
He thinks it's the middle of the election season? LisaL Oct 2016 #11
"I don't want to create a misleading impression"---well, Comey, you did just that wordpix Oct 2016 #49
In the past Comey donated to John McCain’s campaign in the 2008 presidential election and to... FreeStateDemocrat Oct 2016 #7
If this "may be" important and may not, safeinOhio Oct 2016 #9
What you are suggesting would break the law. former9thward Oct 2016 #46
Crooked Comey is a sniveling servant of the GOP nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #10
While this is not great... Upin Oct 2016 #13
This is what happens when you play nice and hire Republicans. sarcasmo Oct 2016 #18
Sure does. LisaL Oct 2016 #24
So what wanderingcat Oct 2016 #19
Director Comey needs to put up or shut up. dubyadiprecession Oct 2016 #28
He doesn't need to do anything unless the Attorney General kicks his ass to do it!!! FreeStateDemocrat Oct 2016 #29
He doesn't even have the emails. LisaL Oct 2016 #32
It is as speculative as saying, there might be a link between Director Comey and Beastiality. dubyadiprecession Oct 2016 #34
I don't see Comey as the mastermind here. briv1016 Oct 2016 #39
re: "following orders:" DOJ told him not to do it, but I get your drift about RNC wordpix Oct 2016 #50
This is an unpopular view (donning flame-retardant suit) but moonscape Oct 2016 #51
Weak or not, he interfered in a presidential election in a wild abuse of his position. There is no anneboleyn Oct 2016 #54
story quickly morphing from Clinton to Comey DeminPennswoods Oct 2016 #52
As he should be! This is unprecedented and political motivated. Jnew28 Oct 2016 #58

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
1. Hes plain incompetent at his job
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 03:30 AM
Oct 2016

If he had said that those emails were on a device shared by huma and weiner and this was related to the weiner investigation this would not have exploded

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
2. Comey is a political hack, and he is very competent at his job
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 03:54 AM
Oct 2016

Comey is a Republican first. His actions are career ending, but that is what Republicans do.

WIProgressive88

(314 posts)
44. Yup. I truly think there is something much more malicious than simple incompetence on display here.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:31 AM
Oct 2016

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
43. Removed by who?
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:26 AM
Oct 2016

FBI Directors are appointed to a 10 year term. Presidents can't remove them.

Arkansas Granny

(32,264 posts)
4. Reports I've heard say that they don't even know for sure what they have and that it's possible
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 04:44 AM
Oct 2016

that these are copies of emails that have already been investigated. If that is the case, I don't see why it was decided to reveal this info such a short time before the election, unless, of course, you want to do political damage and influence the election.

forthemiddle

(1,459 posts)
8. I don't think it matters if the emails were already investigated
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 06:57 AM
Oct 2016

It matters if they contained classified information, and were on yet another computer that Huma, whom I assume had the security clearance, and Anthony Wiener, who I assume didn't have clearance had in their home.
Maybe I am wrong, but its where the emails, were, not what the emails were about (assuming again, classified info).

Upin

(115 posts)
15. Isn't that what was the FBI said during the intial press conference?
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:06 AM
Oct 2016

It was there but there was no intent etc.. etc..

Upin

(115 posts)
17. I was referring to the initial conference...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:15 AM
Oct 2016

You were talking about the new, or 'new but already investigated' e-mails.

LisaL

(47,345 posts)
20. I am talking about these supposedly new emails Comey told the congress about.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:28 AM
Oct 2016

There is no information suggesting there was anything of any importance in these emails.

Upin

(115 posts)
21. I think Comey went out of his way to say nothing either way...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:33 AM
Oct 2016

Other than the implication that whatever is there was enough to kick the whole thing off again.

The odds they will find anything more than what was found in the previous batches is extremely unlikely though.

Upin

(115 posts)
23. That's not on him though...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:46 AM
Oct 2016

It was either that or keep it under wraps and have it come out later and look like a cover up.

LisaL

(47,345 posts)
31. How is it not on him?
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:36 AM
Oct 2016

If he doesn't know anything about the significance of the emails, why is he sending letters to congress just days before the election?

Upin

(115 posts)
33. If he doesn't it comes out via Trump instead...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:46 AM
Oct 2016

... and he gets to frame the narrative instead of the FBI.

or...

He manages to keep a lid on it until Nov 6th and then the FBI gets accused of cover ups and favoratism.

The least shitty of three shitty choices.

LisaL

(47,345 posts)
36. How would have Trump known about any of it?
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:51 AM
Oct 2016

Unless you think FBI reports to Trump.

Upin

(115 posts)
38. They do maintain public records of the status of the investigation (even if not in gritty detail)...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:57 AM
Oct 2016

We heard for months and months and even more months every time there was a new batch of e-mails to be investigated and reviewed.

When a new batch pops up, keeping it close-hold until post election would speak to partisanship and favoritism. I suspect Comey is trying to rebuild a reputation of political neutrality after the shit storm he just thought he had left.

Maybe Trump finds out about it the way most people do. Friends, folks looking for a favor, reporters, a lapse in security etc.. etc...

Maybe you think that they shouldn't review this new batch in the first place? Then that comes out and it looks like partisanship again.

No matter what it would have come out eventually.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
47. frickin FBI should investigate Trump's ties to Pooty-poot and how the emails
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 02:56 PM
Oct 2016

got out via Wikileaks to begin with

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
60. Your allegations, while creative, are not supported by evidence.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 10:54 AM
Nov 2016

Your allegations, while creative, are not supported by evidence.

Upin

(115 posts)
61. Which part do you find to be incorrect?
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 12:03 PM
Nov 2016

That records were kept or that there was correspondence between the FBI and the investigating committes?



anneboleyn

(5,613 posts)
55. No, the FBI is supposed to wait until they know the emails matter! A rumor from Trump campaign
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 04:23 PM
Oct 2016

is not the same as an official, vague-ass, maximum damage letter from the director of the FBI Comey sent to repubs in congress. The idea that the FBI had to wait or report the day after the election is a false choice. The FBI is supposed to wait until they know the emails actually matter. That might not happen until December or January or who knows.

Ka hrnt

(308 posts)
35. Exactly, he was in a no-win situation.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:50 AM
Oct 2016

Either say something and be slammed by Democrats (and mess with the election) or say nothing, have it leak, and be slammed by Republicans. I would say his screw-up was being too vague in the letter, allowing the right-wingers to take this as "re-opening" the investigation, when it's just going to amount to adding some pickles to the nothingburger.

LisaL

(47,345 posts)
41. Seriously?
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 10:21 AM
Oct 2016

FBI handles numerous investigations into numerous people. Why was he afraid this one going to leak as opposed to all the others?

Upin

(115 posts)
27. That's what I was referring to...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:53 AM
Oct 2016

Way back in the yonder days of earlier this summer...

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
5. obama should demand his resignation and an immediate investigation into Comey
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 05:06 AM
Oct 2016

obvious attempt at sabotaging the presidential election

groundloop

(13,561 posts)
25. Yes, but that would reek of political payback
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:50 AM
Oct 2016

I agree that Comey shouldn't hold the position he does, not after his obvious political partisanship, but him getting fired right now would only add to the shit-storm. He certainly needs to be replaced by President Clinton at her earliest possible convenience, or even better, fired by President Obama after the election.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
45. Neither Obama (who appointed him) or Clinton can get rid of him.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:33 AM
Oct 2016

FBI Directors are appointed to a 10 year term and can't be fired at the whim of a president.

anneboleyn

(5,613 posts)
56. The director in 1993 was fired, so yes they can be fired. This is gross abuse by Comey (imho)
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 04:27 PM
Oct 2016

Unfortunately I don't think people know how malicious and potentially damaging this is -- the msm is talking on and on about Watergate, etc. Absolutely dreadful. Comey sending a vague letter ONE WEEK BEFORE A CLOSE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION is a pretty obvious abuse of power (imho)

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
57. Sesisions in 1993 was fired for cause.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 04:59 PM
Oct 2016

He was accused of misusing official funds. Not the case here.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
48. well Comey has sealed his fate, I think Hillary will be looking for a new FBI director
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 02:58 PM
Oct 2016

How about a woman this time?

Sand Rat Expat

(290 posts)
59. She'll have to wait a while.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:55 PM
Oct 2016

As former9thward pointed out, FBI Directors serve a 10-year term. They can't just be summarily fired by the President, at least not without a compelling (i.e., they were found guilty of some crime) reason. If Comey decides to stick it out and weather the storm, he's in until 2023, a year before Hillary leaves office if she's re-elected in 2020.

Absent finding something that unequivocally shows wrongdoing by Comey, and then successfully prosecuting him for it, he's here to stay.

And how about the best person for the job, regardless of their gender? If Hillary's judgment is that the best person for the job is a woman, terrific. If she gets the opportunity to select a new director and decides to choose a man, who cares, as long as the person selected is the best person for the job?

riversedge

(79,285 posts)
6. Comey's explanation to FBI employees: "...there is significant risk of being misunderstood."
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 06:17 AM
Oct 2016

THE only thing I understand at this moment is that Comey is attempting to sabotage Hillary's election to the presidency!!

Daniel Dale ‏@ddale8 9h9 hours ago

James Comey's explanation to FBI employees: "...there is significant risk of being misunderstood." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/28/read-the-letter-comey-sent-to-fbi-employees-explaining-his-controversial-decision-on-the-clinton-email-investigation/?utm_term=.d288039e4744#comments

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
49. "I don't want to create a misleading impression"---well, Comey, you did just that
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 03:00 PM
Oct 2016

and if Trumpty Dump wins, it will be largely on you, you POS.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
7. In the past Comey donated to John McCain’s campaign in the 2008 presidential election and to...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 06:46 AM
Oct 2016

Mitt Romney’s campaign in the 2012 presidential election and in has now made a major contribution to Rump's election!

safeinOhio

(36,913 posts)
9. If this "may be" important and may not,
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 07:09 AM
Oct 2016

I would think this would open the door for the IRS or the President to open up and release trump's tax records. It too may be important and we won't know until we see them. While the director has broke with a policy that doesn't, or has never released information about an on going case, let's extend that to the IRS.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
46. What you are suggesting would break the law.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:36 AM
Oct 2016

It is illegal to release IRS tax returns. There is no law saying what the FBI can release in an investigation.

Upin

(115 posts)
13. While this is not great...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:03 AM
Oct 2016

... imagine if/when it comes out weeks or months from now and it gives the appearance of a cover up.

This stuff always comes out.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
18. This is what happens when you play nice and hire Republicans.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:16 AM
Oct 2016


HRC should laugh at any Republican name mentioned for a high ranking position in her cabinet.

wanderingcat

(5 posts)
19. So what
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:24 AM
Oct 2016

This is a simple, if perhaps stupid or naive comment. Other servers have been illegally hacked, both government and others. Despite the political bs, none of Hillary's emails seem to endanger the security of the US.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
29. He doesn't need to do anything unless the Attorney General kicks his ass to do it!!!
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:19 AM
Oct 2016

Pressure was brought to bear to make him disclose unsubstantiated innuendo so pressure needs to be applied to make him be accountable to the American electorate for his politically partisan actions.

dubyadiprecession

(7,304 posts)
34. It is as speculative as saying, there might be a link between Director Comey and Beastiality.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:49 AM
Oct 2016

Should we make assumptions on that as well?

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
39. I don't see Comey as the mastermind here.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 10:01 AM
Oct 2016

He was following orders and now is the fall guy after it blew-up in there face. We should be trying follow this back the source. (RNC)

moonscape

(5,635 posts)
51. This is an unpopular view (donning flame-retardant suit) but
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 03:08 PM
Oct 2016

I don't see Comey as carrying water for Trump or the GOP.

My impression of Comey had been positive because of his courageous behavior when he went to Ashcroft's side. And I saw interviews with him a couple of times and was impressed. He has a reputation for ethics, and so it was alarming when he editorialized about Clinton's email issue at that press conference. And now this, which is unconscionable.

However, I don't see him as a guy lurking just to spring something like this, rather as someone so pressured behind the scenes that he compromised his integrity, and more importantly that of the FBI. He needs to go, but I don't see him as an evil man, just sadly, a weak one in the end.

anneboleyn

(5,613 posts)
54. Weak or not, he interfered in a presidential election in a wild abuse of his position. There is no
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 03:43 PM
Oct 2016

reason to "warn" about new emails one week before the election. The vague language allows republicans to run with the story and could easily lead to the election of a dangerously unstable, entirely inexperienced "candidate" who listens to no one but himself and has ties to Russia. That is precisely the reason that FBI folks are supposed to be silent about investigations until a determination is made. Comey's letter is an obvious curveball.

DeminPennswoods

(17,288 posts)
52. story quickly morphing from Clinton to Comey
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 03:15 PM
Oct 2016

I think the story is changing pretty quickly from Clinton to Comey.

I doubt this hurts her. Sure, it gives CNN, MSNBC and FoxNews something to yap about, but the regular press seems to be moving smartly away from "Clinton emails" to stories about Comey getting blasted from all quarters incl his own FBI staff, DoJ and other prosecutors.

Just a bit ago CNN host tried to fact check the Dem surrogate on about the email possibly involving Clinton and he turned it around on her saying she was right and that no one knows if the email do or don't involve her and that's Comey needs to provide all the details. The CNN host seemed a little taken aback before turning to whoever Trumper was on.

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