FBI releases docs from 2001 Rich investigation days before election
Source: CNN
Washington (CNN)The FBI on Tuesday -- one week from Election Day -- released heavily redacted files from its 2001 investigation of President Bill Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich.
The release quickly drew complaints from Democrats who have assailed FBI Director James Comey for his decision last week to tell Congress the bureau was reviewing emails potentially related to Hillary Clinton's private server.
The bureau Tuesday posted 129 pages from its 2001 investigation of Rich, a former hedge-fund trader who had been indicted on multiple counts of tax evasion.
Bill Clinton pardoned Rich on his last day in office, one of his most controversial decisions as president.
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/01/politics/fbi-clinton-marc-rich-investigation/
My comment? WTF?? Are you kidding me??
ebbie15644
(1,214 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Becoming a party hero pays in the millions, I'll bet.
Upin
(115 posts)The release was posted on Twitter by @FBIRecordsVault, an account that posts material from FOIA requests on subjects of public interest.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)That's why your not supposed to comment
On cases
And they'll me now that Comeys bureau diesn't violate the hatch act... give me a break
At best he's allowed the FBI to become a cesspool of right wingers with a partisan sgenda
citood
(550 posts)They will.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)from the FBI regarding the timing (so far CNN has not received a statement).
wordpix
(18,652 posts)about it. Also said the announcement came via a Twitter acct. that hadn't been used for about a year.
Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)I mean really really reslly wrong
2001
It's time The DOJ issues comments
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)is because of Ephram Zimbalist Junior (I never knew and never care who senior was) who had this campy show called the
"F B I"
It always showed them as smart, honest, tough and invincible. The reality was far different, from the very start.
J. Edgar Hoover made a point of searching out, blackmailing, and threatening gays for the crime of being . . . gay.
In 1965, Fred Cook wrote a book called "The FBI nobody Knows." If you were female, Black, Italian, Jewish, Gay, liberal, you would not even be interviewed for a job. If you read the wrong magazines, including The Nation, Mother Jones or a plethora of foreign papers or periodicals, you were suspect. The organization he created without any congressional oversight, supervision, or input, was little more than a goon squad used to further his agenda. More than a few presidents actually feared him, and for good reason.
He was an evil, greedy, manipulative man and the organization still suffers because of that. Check out the political battles in 1906-1909, and how conservative congressmen, at virtual war with Roosevelt (Teddie) decided that the DOJ needed its own secret agents. Voila, the FBI was born.
As an aside. In exchange for approving scripts (this was in the days that the FCC actually censored TV programs, for sex, violence, use of language, even topics like Nixon on Laugh-In), the FBI shared some tall tales with the writers of F B I that were changed solely to make the FBI look good and invincible. Hoover even had a problem with the star of the show, given that Ephram Zimbalist was born to a russian. Reluctantly, he agreed to his getting the role.
There has never been a time that the FBI was the ideal, clean and corruption free organization. That is only an image promoted by the FBI. With the help of a cowed and ineffective media. And with the help of fearful politicians who really feared Hoover.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)We've got our fucking domestic counterintelligence bureau pulling for the Russian pawn.
It's time to clean house and send every Bush-era appointee left in our damned government "into the hole," just like W Bush did. Let them finish out their careers under a mountain in Pennsylvania--without the nuclear keys.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)of the ship is failing at his job
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)with campaign finance reform, overturn Citizens United, and a blackout
period surrounding elections
This could have been done anytime
This is now political payback for whatever
Dirty tricks
Hekate
(90,681 posts)groundloop
(11,519 posts)I'm kind of conflicted on this, because I see clearly that Comey is trying to damage Hillary's campaign. However, what if there was new, damning, irrefutable evidence that had just came to light about tRump raping that young girl? Should that be withheld until after the election?
Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)But even for trump, I would not want the fbi to meddle in the election
Considering those cases are settled
And pushing them back a week would not have made a diff, it seems people have been holding on to those for a long while deliberately to release Now
The FBI is now working against HRC
There is no more doubt
red dog 1
(27,799 posts)As far as Trump raping that young girl...it's a civil lawsuit, not a criminal case.
Neither the FBI nor the NYPD would have any "new, damming, irrefutable evidence" relating to a civil lawsuit.
What could come out before the election regarding Trump's alleged rape of a 13-year-old girl, is if a new witness came forward, but that's not very likely.
The hearing for that case is now set for Dec 16 in NY Federal Court
"Why is MSM refusing to cover Trump's underage rape lawsuit?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512541574
christx30
(6,241 posts)But 15 year old information on a closed case has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with anything else in the world. Why not bring up the XYZ affair from 1797 why they're at it? Any new information on Watergate? I guess not, since that was a republican corruption, and not smoke and mirrors to defame a Clinton.
blm
(113,059 posts)Clinton pardoned Rich for Poppy Bush. Everything else was distracting HORSESHIT!
Hekate
(90,681 posts)rockfordfile
(8,702 posts)FBI needs a cleaning.
sunnystarr
(2,638 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)It's always been corrupt since its founding, it just hasn't usually been this blatant, obvious and partisan about it.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)This is insane!
groundloop
(11,519 posts)There's simply no other way to explain this. Comey has to know that these actions will end his career, it must take some mighty strong convincing to get someone to go take such drastic measures.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 1, 2016, 07:25 PM - Edit history (1)
that Comey looks like a hostage victim, as if someone has a gun to his back or a loved one.
red dog 1
(27,799 posts)and has promised even more money if Trump is elected..
THAT would motivate an evil bastard such as Comey to do whatever he can to help Trump.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)and he's getting burned up
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)ronnie624
(5,764 posts)As if the FBI hasn't been oriented toward fascism from the beginning.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Presidential election.
They need to motivate Republicans who have been turned off by Trump to still vote so they have down ticket numbers. Also, they could be trying to reinflame doubts in Democrats who weren't keen about Hillary to depress those likely Democratic down ticket votes.
I've been wondering if the whole thing was timed. It's clear this and the purposefully cryptic reopening of the emails was timed so it would still be a question mark on Election Day.
Was the timing of the Daily Mail article about Weiner also purposeful? After all, his exchanges with the girl apparently occurred much earlier this year. Was the reporting held back until September to produce an October surprise?
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)And Comey demeanor comes across as someone who is either being blackmailed or bribed big time.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)First October surprise against Democrats that reporter has launched.
Hmmm.
Putting the info together for a post I'll put up soon.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)This should be considered a clear and present danger to our Democracy.
red dog 1
(27,799 posts)If President Obama wanted to, he could immediately put Comey on "administrative leave" and direct Attorney General Lynch to begin proceedings on getting an indictment of Comey for violating the Hatch Act,
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)Your view is not even remotely consistent with reality.
SDJay
(1,089 posts)I was expecting it to be from Andy Borowitz or some other satire writer. It's not. Holy shit.
What's next? The double-secret file on what really happened with Vince Foster? Unbelievable.
At this point I think President Obama's and AG Lynch's hands are almost being forced. This freaking guy needs to be fired and perhaps arrested. If this isn't electioneering I guess I don't know what is.
Sickening.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)that's the way politics works.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)and he would have to be to engineer this. Not only does nobody care, but it undercuts any scheme related to the email letter.
Something is very off about this.
napi21
(45,806 posts)been on Comey big time since he exonerated her on the Email investigation. They've ignored his calls, wouldn't even acknowledge him when passing in the halls of Congress. I think they mentally got to him so badly he figured he could placate them with this new "emails found story", BUT that didn't do enough damage, so he tried the only other tidbit he could find, and that was the OLD story about Bill.
I'm racking my brain to think of a solution to VICIOUS behavior of what seems like the majority of Pubs!! So far I hsaven'tw found any ideas.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)I didn't know about how he was treated, but makes sense. Expecting them to be adults is too much to ask.
Still - the Marc Rich thing smells more like rogue insiders than Comey throwing meat to the Congressional lions, and that Comey has a hot mess on his hands internally.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)Let's see the DUplorable Redhatters defend this!
get the red out
(13,466 posts)This is completely over the top. The FBI doesn't even want to try to covertly meddle in the election, they have effectively put a flashing fluorescent sign over the Bureau screaming it.
Laser102
(816 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)one of these per day until the election, Vince Foster, then Travelgate, then the alien baby, etc.
red dog 1
(27,799 posts)Comey is in clear violation of the Hatch Act, and only the President has the power to fire Comey, or put him on administrative leave, and seek an indictment for Comey's clear violation of the law (Hatch Act)
No one is "above the law"...not even the Director of the FBI.
You can't "sit this one out" Mr. President - you need to step in before Comey does anymore damage.
As Harry Truman so wisely said..."The buck stops here!"
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)it now, this week, it will be seen as partisan revenge instead of a rightful reigning-in of a rogue cabinet official. He's really caught between a rock and a hard place.
red dog 1
(27,799 posts)..the "possibility" that Comey may have violated the Hatch Act.
That should not be viewed as "partisan revenge"...since Comey is not above the law.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)What the FUCK is the FBI's goddamned problem? Could Comey BE any more blatantly partisan? Where the hell is the evidence we KNOW they're sitting on detailing Trump's numerous connections with Russian officials and banks? FUCK Comey, fucking partisan hack.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)Always was a goddamned hack. Obama screwed the pooch here.
Upin
(115 posts)duffyduff
(3,251 posts)That s.o.b. Comey needs to be sent packing. He is SO obvious.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)At this point, the only way Comey keeps his job is if Rump wins, so he will do everything in his power to make that happen.
riversedge
(70,214 posts)Lots of screen shots of tweets included....
Dormant FBI Archives Twitter Account Revived Two Days Ago: Pro Trump, Anti Clinton
http://heatst.com/politics/dormant-fbi-archives-twitter-account-revived-two-days-ago-pro-trump-anti-clinton/
By Louise Mensch | 2:25 pm, November 1, 2016
The verified FBI archives account on Twitter has been dormant for over a year. Two days ago, it started tweeting again with a partisan release praising Fred C. Trump as a philanthropist. Trump was the father of Donald Trump, and was a highly controversial figure particularly over race issues. Today, the FBI archives released negative material on the Bill Clinton Foundation.
A Hillary supporter on Twitter, Dustin Giebel, whom I have interviewed, pointing out the shocking fact that the FBI Archives account had been completely dormant since 2015 before the oleaginous tweet about Fred Trump.
Giebels summation is correct. This tweet on Fred Trump was published Oct 30:
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was immediately preceded by this tweet posted over a year ago in August, 2015.
Meanwhile, an anti-Clinton tweet appeared on the feed today:
The evidence of partisan hackery here comes as there is huge skepticism over unnamed FBI sources who spun to the New York Times that Donald Trump was not linked to Russia (it should be noted that the agency itself has said no such thing, and have briefed Harry Reid on an active investigation).
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DiverDave
(4,886 posts)His ass, then he can make some really big money on faux.
mahina
(17,652 posts)They would step so far out of bounds and I pray to God they fail.
I don't know what the remedy is for this but they must not operate in a partisan manner.
dalton99
(781 posts)Jnew28
(931 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)I don't think Comey is a true partisan hack, but Louis Freeh sure was. He was FBI director from 1991-2001. I'd guess he hired a lot of like-minded agents during his 10 years and they'd be pretty far up the chain of command after 20+ years. Mueller was then appointed to clean up Freeh's mess. I think Comey is still dealing with the problems Freeh created at the FBI.
There's no doubt Clinton will need to appoint a very strong Atty General to clean up the FBI once and for all. I'm sure there are many dedicated agents who are appalled at what's happening now at the FBI.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)to replace Sessions, who was fired by Clinton. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Freeh
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Seriously. He's a subversive piece of shit.