Police shoot, kill person armed with blunt object in Kansas

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press

Police shoot, kill person armed with blunt object in Kansas

Updated 4:07 pm, Monday, November 28, 2016


OLATHE, Kan. (AP) Police say officers fatally shot a man outside a suburban Kansas City retail store after he hit one of them with a long wooden rod.

Lenexa, Kansas, police spokesman Dan Friesen says the man was shot near a Wal-Mart in Olathe around 10:30 p.m. Sunday after striking an officer.

Friesen, speaking on behalf of Olathe police, says the rod resembled a martial arts bo stick.


He says officers responded to a report of a man with a weapon and tried to use non-lethal force to subdue him, including an attempt to use a stun gun, but those measures were not effective.


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Police-shoot-kill-person-armed-with-blunt-object-10639346.php

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A terrifying "bo" stick

[cstanleytech]

1. They didnt say it was one just that it resembled one.

For all we know if could have been a pvc pipe with an iron interior concealed inside and if something like that makes contact with someone then the persons probably going to feel it all right.

[exboyfil]

2. This is a quarterstaff document

but it shows they can be dangerous. If the Taser does not work, then the cops do not have a standoff weapon except their guns.

http://www.aaoema.com/the-english-quarterstaff/

George Silver in his Paradoxes of Defence (1599) wrote that the short staff (quarterstaff) had the advantage over the battleaxe, the halbard, the black bill, the two-hand sword, the sword and target, two swords and daggers, or two rapiers and poinards with gauntlets, the long staff and the morris pike. Silver’s claims that a man armed with a quarterstaff could defeat two men armed with swords and daggers or rapiers and poinards may seem hard to believe but in fact his words were borne out by English sailor Richard Peeke who, in 1625 fought three Spanish rapier men at the same time armed only with a quarterstaff. Nonetheless Peeke beat all three men killing one of them in the process. Little wonder then that Zachary Wylde in his 1711 manual The English Master of Defence wrote of the quarterstaff:

…a Man that rightly understands it, may bid defiance, and laugh at any other Weapon…

[rwsanders]

6. I would say this is the man, not the weapon...

Way back when I was in fencing, my instructor had an encounter with a black-belt who wanted to challenge him staff to saber. 2 quick shots to the hands left the black-belt unarmed with a new respect for fencing.

But I do think the officers overreacted. But in my opinion, we've had many more generations to develop a fear of sticks and stick with pointy objects at the end than we have to develop a fear of the gun. So it hit something primal in them and then shot.

I did see video from the UK where a group of officers subdued a man with a machete using riot shields, and no injury to the man or officers.

[tclambert]

3. It's pretty easy to break bones, including skull bones, with a bo staff.

The one in the picture is a pretty iridescent one used for tournaments. A serious bo staff is thicker and heavier, more like a long broom handle or shovel handle.

You can break bones with an escrima stick or a tonfa, also, and those are only about two feet long.

[They_Live]

4. Maybe the popo

should learn some martial arts? Maybe? Or they could just shoot people. Yep.

[christx30]

5. Or maybe this guy just shouldn't have

attacked the police?

[Bradical79]

8. I think you're both right

On one hand, don't bring a "bo stick" to a gunfight. On the other, police physical and mental standards across the country seem to be pretty pathetic more often than not.

[ManiacJoe]

7. Club-type objects are one of the three standard classes of lethal weapons.

The other two being edged weapons and firearms.

The article says less-than-lethal means were attempted before the police moved up to lethal force.

[Vinca]

9. The AP must be mistaken. The guy seems to be white.