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brooklynite

(94,858 posts)
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:31 AM Dec 2016

The Comet Ping Pong Gunman Answers Our Reporters Questions

Last edited Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: The New York Times

On Wednesday, I spoke with Mr. Welch, who goes by his middle name, Maddison, by videoconference at an old hospital building adjacent to the citys jail. In his first news media interview since his arrest, Mr. Welch appeared downcast and at times distracted as he answered questions for 45 minutes, the maximum time allowed by the jail. I just wanted to do some good and went about it the wrong way, he said.

What was his original plan?
Mr. Welch, the father of two daughters, said he woke up Sunday morning and told his family he had some things to do. He left Smallsbury, a nickname for his hometown, for the 350-mile drive to Washington with the intention of giving the restaurant a closer look and then returning home. He wanted to shine some light on it. As he made his way to Washington, he felt his heart breaking over the thought of innocent people suffering. Once he got to the pizzeria, there was an abrupt change of plans. Mr. Welch would not say why he took a military-style assault rifle inside the restaurant and fired it. According to court documents, Mr. Welch said he had come armed to help rescue the children.

What did he think when he discovered there were no children at the pizzeria?
The intel on this wasnt 100 percent, he said. However, he refused to dismiss outright the claims in the online articles, conceding only that there were no children inside that dwelling. He also said that child slavery was a worldwide phenomenon.

Where did he learn about the fake news involving Comet?
He said it was through word of mouth. After recently having internet service installed at his house, he was really able to look into it. He said that substantial evidence from a combination of sources had left him with the impression something nefarious was happening. He said one article on the subject led to another and then another. He said he did not like the term fake news, believing it was meant to diminish stories outside the mainstream media, which he does not completely trust. He also said he was not political. While once a registered Republican, he did not vote for Donald J. Trump. He also did not vote for Mrs. Clinton. But he is praying that Mr. Trump takes the country in the right direction.

Read more: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/07/us/edgar-welch-comet-pizza-fake-news.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0&referer=http://www.nytimes.com/



Notwithstanding his wife and children, I think the prosecutor needs to ruin his life to send a message to the people responding to Trump's hostility to his opponents; maximum sentence, no plea bargaining
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The Comet Ping Pong Gunman Answers Our Reporters Questions (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2016 OP
This moran has a moran for a lawyer jpak Dec 2016 #1
The intel wasn't 100%. Afromania Dec 2016 #2
military style weapons mercuryblues Dec 2016 #18
We can only hope his idiocy serves as a lesson to the millions of others duped by fake news. LonePirate Dec 2016 #3
and that schools require papers/projects where credible sources only are cited wordpix Dec 2016 #13
He goes by his middle name Maddison ToxMarz Dec 2016 #4
impression something nefarious was happening. IronLionZion Dec 2016 #5
He's clearly shooting for a diminished capacity defense. n/t MrModerate Dec 2016 #6
He woke up and found himself floating in the toilet. gordianot Dec 2016 #7
"May require...incarceration?" lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #10
Justice in America is slippery. gordianot Dec 2016 #12
His profile would be horizontal right now, had he been brown. lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #14
Exactly gordianot Dec 2016 #15
Yep, he had a gun, was brown, so we killed him on the spot, a terrorist. In this guy's RKP5637 Dec 2016 #27
He's just keeping it one hundred. graegoyle Dec 2016 #8
Needs to look in a mirror DK504 Dec 2016 #9
"The intel on this wasn't 100%" ??? Canoe52 Dec 2016 #11
No he should wear a sign that says "Federal Bureau of Prisons" for 30 years lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #16
It's amazing 2naSalit Dec 2016 #17
"he did not vote for Donald J. Trump" BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #19
Agreed world wide wally Dec 2016 #24
I wonder what radio shows he listened to on the way to Washington? csziggy Dec 2016 #20
On his show some nights ago he was totally wound up about Clinton / Podesta and pedophiles. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #28
That's why I suspect this gunman listened to right wing radio on his 350 mile drive csziggy Dec 2016 #33
Why is someone like Alex Jones allowed to walk? Loki Dec 2016 #21
Exactly!!! His show has nothing to do with free speech, it's mostly all hate speech and he sits back RKP5637 Dec 2016 #30
Republicans fooled another internet newbie who believed, everything online & in his email is true. Sunlei Dec 2016 #22
This is exactly why we're all screwed! ananda Dec 2016 #23
And IMO there are millions like him in the US. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #32
Two key phrases stuck out to me in this article. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #25
Wouldn't surprise me a bit if Trump Politicub Dec 2016 #26
drumpf is more show than go. lark Dec 2016 #31
His ass can sit in a jail cell for so long it grows there. lark Dec 2016 #29
Assault Style Weapon bpj62 Dec 2016 #34
Why won't anybody say the words "radical Christian terrorist????" yardwork Dec 2016 #35
Wonder why he shot through the floor KT2000 Dec 2016 #36
Wonder why he shot through the floor wideglide103 Dec 2016 #37
That's for sure! n/t KT2000 Dec 2016 #38
I bet the white guy gets off light. SpankMe Dec 2016 #39

mercuryblues

(14,552 posts)
18. military style weapons
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:35 PM
Dec 2016

military style jargon, yet to chicken shit to actually join the military. Instead he goes into a family restaurant and starts shooting with unarmed parents and kids there. Too fucking chicken shit to go to a shooting range and randomly shooting.

A volunteer fire fighter who was let go because he failed to show up for calls. Too chicken shit to show up to put out fires.

Wants to be a hero.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
13. and that schools require papers/projects where credible sources only are cited
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:12 PM
Dec 2016

Most teachers do require only credible sources for papers and projects but certainly, it should be stressed in every class. This moran never got the lesson.

IronLionZion

(45,601 posts)
5. impression something nefarious was happening.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:53 AM
Dec 2016

"There's something going on" is as much the Trump slogan as "Make America Great Again".

Even though this dude didn't vote for him, Trump is the answer to all our questions.

Trump and his people have fostered a culture of hate and spread misinformation and distrust that leads to violence.

F people like this

gordianot

(15,249 posts)
7. He woke up and found himself floating in the toilet.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:58 AM
Dec 2016

To be fair we humans have all said and done things that were wrong based on bad assumptions and false information. This is a case of truly epic proportions. I doubt this person has any conscience and may require physical incarceration to make the point.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. "May require...incarceration?"
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:02 PM
Dec 2016

He is a menace to society and should be locked up until he is too old to carry a weapon.

gordianot

(15,249 posts)
12. Justice in America is slippery.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:09 PM
Dec 2016

You can hope but seldom does it work out. Obviously his profile allowed him to shoot up a Pizzeria and survive, and same profile will protect him in court.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
27. Yep, he had a gun, was brown, so we killed him on the spot, a terrorist. In this guy's
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:34 PM
Dec 2016

case, oh, he just misinterpreted what he read, meant no harm.

graegoyle

(532 posts)
8. He's just keeping it one hundred.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:58 AM
Dec 2016

'Lots' of 'sources' 'weren't 100 percent'.

How many people take a rifle to 'look into' a business? Show of hands?

DK504

(3,847 posts)
9. Needs to look in a mirror
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:00 PM
Dec 2016

" ... he felt his “heart breaking over the thought of innocent people suffering.”

Is this moran serious? He's worried about "innocent" people? Did he look at or think of his kids before he voted? He obviously doesn't giver a damn about innocents.

Canoe52

(2,949 posts)
11. "The intel on this wasn't 100%" ???
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:09 PM
Dec 2016

Poor guy also thinks he's some kind of special ops.

I disagree with the opinion expressed that his life should be ruined, some kind of punishment yes, I personally like the idea of him having to wear a sign for a year that says I AM A MORAN - ask me why (mis-spelled on purpose) oh and definitely take away his gunz.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
16. No he should wear a sign that says "Federal Bureau of Prisons" for 30 years
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:24 PM
Dec 2016

He shot up a restaurant for no reason at all. Is this complicated?

2naSalit

(86,880 posts)
17. It's amazing
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:28 PM
Dec 2016

how many "used to be special ops" guys are running around with big guns when they have never seen a day of service to anyone but themselves. And they always claim they are doing something for the welfare of others when they pull their stunts.

BumRushDaShow

(129,806 posts)
19. "he did not vote for Donald J. Trump"
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:51 PM
Dec 2016

LIAR.

All the so-called "media" pushing this crazy CT shit is part of Drumpf's propaganda machine.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
20. I wonder what radio shows he listened to on the way to Washington?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:51 PM
Dec 2016

The article says the trip was 350 miles - did he drive the entire way with only the voices in his head getting him worked up? Or did he listen to Alex Jones - "He has listened to Alex Jones, whose radio show traffics in conspiracy theories and who once said that Mrs. Clinton “has personally murdered and chopped up” children."?

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
33. That's why I suspect this gunman listened to right wing radio on his 350 mile drive
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:51 PM
Dec 2016

Which just helped him work himself into a frenzy over this imagined evil.

Protection of free speech should not include protecting malicious lies.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
21. Why is someone like Alex Jones allowed to walk?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:02 PM
Dec 2016

They convey this filth and then sit back while other's take these profound lies to the ultimate deadly fruition. The only way this stops is if we put in place, and insist on, consequences for spreading lies that could cause loss of life or danger. This isn't free speech, this is hate speech.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
30. Exactly!!! His show has nothing to do with free speech, it's mostly all hate speech and he sits back
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:38 PM
Dec 2016

and collects the dollars. The US really needs to think about where it's headed with this crap spewing.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. Republicans fooled another internet newbie who believed, everything online & in his email is true.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:16 PM
Dec 2016

Republicans allowed the anti-Obama and anti-Hillary crap 'news' to thrive, they even backed & funded many of those places. like their dead buddy Breibart, the life of the party at republican events.

ananda

(28,890 posts)
23. This is exactly why we're all screwed!
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:16 PM
Dec 2016

People like this have no rational ability to hear
facts or logic.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
25. Two key phrases stuck out to me in this article.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:29 PM
Dec 2016

1"...he took a military-style assault rifle inside the restaurant.."


2."..recently having internet service installed at his house.."



This guy obviously fits a stereotype congruous with so many angry and deranged white males.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
26. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if Trump
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:30 PM
Dec 2016

swoops in and pays for his defense.

Why? It will encourage others to use violence as means to an end.

lark

(23,182 posts)
31. drumpf is more show than go.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:39 PM
Dec 2016

Just like he didn't step in to pay legal fees for issues created by his deplorables during his campaign, he won't step up here either. They have already fired Flynn's son for spreading the lie, so would be hugely surprised is he takes any supportive action.

bpj62

(999 posts)
34. Assault Style Weapon
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:57 PM
Dec 2016

In addition to the AR-15 he had a high capacity magizine attached to it as well as a large caliber handgun. When they searched his car they found a shotgun. Excuse my naivety here but one generally does recon work in a subtle way so that they do not draw attention to themselves. This guy came ready for some action.

My genuine concern is that these fake news stories are going to get someone killed. The right has some truly touched people out there and they are armed. I hope Comet Ping Pong Pizza sues the crap out of the people thst originated this story because it has put them in danger. The idiots on the right called it Pizzagate.

yardwork

(61,737 posts)
35. Why won't anybody say the words "radical Christian terrorist????"
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 02:08 PM
Dec 2016

/sarcasm

Personally, I think this man has mental health issues, exacerbated by his listening to hate radio and hanging out on fake news websites.

If he were Muslim, we'd be hearing a lot of screeching right now. Those usual suspects are silent about this white Christian man.

 

wideglide103

(3 posts)
37. Wonder why he shot through the floor
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 02:30 PM
Dec 2016

Why didn't the cops shoot him? If he'd have black he would have been dead, many times over.

SpankMe

(2,972 posts)
39. I bet the white guy gets off light.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 02:37 PM
Dec 2016

If a black man with a powerful rifle went into a business and fired off a shot, he'd have been considered a threat and gunned down by police. But, Mr. Welch was given every opportunity to surrender and walk out un-killed.

I'm sorry for invoking race in this case as it isn't really relevant. But, it is a thought that I have when crazy armed white guys survive a police encounter while unarmed black men do not.

What's infuriating about this case is that Welch and others believed this story, but then upon being shown it was sourced form a fake news article, they still say that it "needs further looking into" because "where there's smoke, there's fire" or that it's true until proven otherwise. This is a sense of reasoning and logic that has no validity and that's hard to refute because it's so crazy and stubborn.

Pundits keep saying that the divisions in America are due to both sides being dismissive of the other and not making an effort to listen to the other side and understand their point of view. Conservatives are bad for vilifying liberals for wanting expanded health care, LGBT rights, abortion rights, and on and on because we believe these things help people and that we're righting some wrongs. Conservatives aren't listening to our reasons for advocating for these things and instead say that we're doing it because we "want to destroy America".

But, conservatives believe that Hillary Clinton is operating a child sex ring out of an underground bunker at a D.C. pizza restaurant and that she has chopped up live children - and yet *WE* are the ones being close-minded for vilifying them and not trying to understand their point of view?

The reality is that it's mostly one sided: the conservatives are vilifying us for believing in normal things. We're vilifying conservatives for actually being villains!

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