America Belongs to White Men, Alt-Right Founder Says

[Blue Shoes]

Source: The Intercept

There were no Nazi salutes this time, at least. But Richard Spencer, the white supremacist Trump supporter trying to make racism cool by rebranding it “alt-right,” gave another rabble-rousing speech on Tuesday night, this time at Texas A&M University.

In case there was any ambiguity about his message, video posted on Twitter by Josef Winkler, a college sophomore who was repulsed by Spencer’s statements, showed him boasting that, because of the conquest of North America by European invaders, “America belongs to white men.”


Read more: https://theintercept.com/2016/12/07/america-belongs-white-men-alt-right-founder-says/

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Before the election, I thought these sorts of beliefs had died out. It makes me pretty depressed to see that they haven't.

[TwilightZone]

1. They were still around.

Trump has just given them national exposure and validation.

It used to be that they were mostly pockets of misfits - the Michigan Militia, the Freemen, etc. Not anymore.

[ret5hd]

3. Pockets of the CIA, pockets of the FBI, many small police forces.

Not as uncommon as you think.

on edit:

[TwilightZone]

16. Racists have always come from all walks of life.

That's nothing new. We should probably be more surprised when it's "regular" people than when they come from institutions that have inherent historical bias.

[Raster]

2. Alt-Reich...

...much more honest it the original German.

[ZoomBubba]

4. Alt-Rightism is a tricky pony to break ...

... because you have to undermine what is essentially the rebel appeal for it. It's anti-establishment and they love Trump, not because he's one of them (he doesn't seem to really believe in anything), but because his reign is something that could tear down the establishment and institutions that they see as being against them. They're young and tech savvy, smart enough to know what fake news is and willingly share it for furthering their cause. They aren't going to be brought down by public shaming and the attempts only seem to embolden them. They don't believe in much of anything, so they're unpersuaded by arguments to their intellect or better nature. The alt-right movement like a big blob of tar that keeps growing, with anyone striking out on it becoming stuck and then consumed themselves.

How do you fight that? A force hellbent on the destruction of decent society for the sake of the destruction of decent society?

[True_Blue]

35. Great post and welcome to DU!

I look forward to reading many more of your posts!

[freemay20]

39. I'd love to have a conversation about that...

You're so right -- how do you fight that????

But we need to, somehow. I don't take them lightly AT ALL.

Thanks for the post.

[oegthe]

57. Well said

I think the Alt-Righters would support, and even celebrate, every statement in your post!

[treestar]

5. Don't think much will happen except

these types will drive themselves nuts.

[Initech]

6. I am a white male, and these people make me want to....

Fuck you Richard Spencer and shove your white supremacy up your ass!

[Metro135]

7. If America belongs to ANYONE. . .

it belongs to the NATIVE Americans who were here LONG before any white men arrived.

[Blue Shoes]

9. Well obviously since we killed so many of them its ours now /sarcasm. nt

[Doreen]

27. My first thought.

[angrychair]

8. So Texas A&M host a neo-Nazi event?

Interesting. Contact the Office of the Vice President and Associate Provost for Diversity by phone at [phone]

Or

[phone]

[cagefreesoylentgreen]

15. Technically they didn't

Spencer was invited by a former student through the university's public use policy. As a public institution, the university wasn't allowed to ban him. The administration did publicly condemn the invitation and created a counter event called Aggies United for diversity awareness.

As an alumni, I'm proud of the university's response to Spencer's presence defiling the campus.

[angrychair]

17. I looked and could find no public condemnation

Only a "we can't do anything about it" statement. Do you have a link?

[TwilightZone]

18. Lots of news stories about it

Example:

Texas A&M Chancellor John Sharp addressed the crowd and let them know the university is no place for racist rhetoric.

"If you’re a purveyor of hate and divisiveness and you want to spew that kind of racism, this is the last campus on earth that you want to come to," Sharp said. "There is no place, and there is no university where love and respect for each other and loyalty and commitment to each other is stronger than Texas A&M University."

Texas A&M President Michael K. Young also spoke, praising diversity and inclusion.


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2016/12/06/protests-unity-event-texas-am-aim-drown-speech-alt-right-dallas-native-richard-spencer

[pnwmom]

10. Welcome to DU, Blue Shoes!

[Sunlei]

11. this the Richard Spencer, banned from several countries in Europe?He brought his nazi crap to usa?

This is his wife? Russian writer Nina Kouprianova, also known as Nina Byzantina

https://ninabyzantina.com/2016/03/23/do-you-realize-what-you-have-done-brussels-bombings-in-context/

[longship]

53. Here's a raw story article about them.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/neo-nazi-richard-spencers-wife-is-a-russian-propagandist-with-allegiance-to-putin/

Richard Spencer, who has emerged as the face of the latest attempt to “intellectualize” white supremacy, is married to a Russian scholar who publishes pro-Kremlin propaganda.

Nina Kouprianova, who also writes under the name Nina Byzantina, publishes articles lionizing Vladimir Putin, criticizing western media and appears on the Kremlin-funded RT network to promote anti-Ukraine talking points.

Spencer, the head of the innocuously named National Policy Institute, has also appeared on anti-American segments broadcast by RT, although the English-language network does not highlight his relationship to Kouprianova.

However, a profile posted on the Neo-Nazi Wermod & Wermod Publishing Group’s website shows the couple dining together with British psychology professor Richard Lynn, whose writings attempt to link ethnicity and race to intelligence.

More at link.

[benld74]

12. The United States is for ALL Americans regardless of

Race or religion you doofuses!!!!!


STUDY YOUR HISTORY BOOKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

[muntrv]

13. Mexicans were living in Texas 100 years before Sam Houston showed up.

Not that facts matter to the deplorables.

[aggiesal]

23. Yes but ...

the white man conquered the Mexicans, so it's theirs now.
Come on, get with the program!

And I'm American of Mexican decent.

[dhill926]

14. goody....I'm a white man...

do I get to throw the racist, misogynist, xenophobic and just plain dumbass pieces of shit out of the country?

[WhiteTara]

32. all of them, except

the white men.

[dhill926]

33. well hell...

that's who I want to throw out.....only the assholes of course....

[alfredo]

19. Alt is German for. "old"

[Mc Mike]

36. They still can't call themselves nazis. America Hates Nazis.

[alfredo]

37. They take pride in their Neanderthal heritage.

They look down on Africans because they have no Neanderthal genes.

[Mc Mike]

38. They know zero about anthro, paleo anthro, bio anthro, genetics, history, etc.

They have fonky Bircher cartoons playing in their head 24/7, substituting for any actual knowledge from any scientific field that would promote their world view.

The old nazis were crazy and stupid, these ones are even more so.

[alfredo]

40. Even the dumbest knuckle dragging mouth breather knows of the Neanderthal.

They probably know of them through old movies that depicted them as stupid brutes.

[Mc Mike]

41. I think the recent run of low budget sucky propaganda movies

-- showing nazis who've been hiding in the center of the planet after their defeat, and are now making a come back; nazis who've been hiding on the moon after their defeat, and are now making a come back; nazis who got zombiefied and frozen in the tundra after their defeat, and are thawed out now and coming back; etc -- those crap movies have driven the relatively more artistic / reality-based B-grade / C-grade cave-people movies out of our current crop of nazis' tiny pea brains.

They have very little storage capacity up in their pear shaped noggins.

[alfredo]

45. All kidding aside, they are a product of our culture of anti intellectualism.

I was raised in a small Kentucky town, I saw it in action.

[Mc Mike]

48. Being anti intellect is a defining trait for them, agreed.

That culture comes from Koch bros and Murdoch propaganda, which reaches the ignorant masses just fine, somehow, no matter how rural and isolated they are. The same capabilities those people use to network cross globally would allow them to access some actual information, if they wanted to.

They hate and threaten others because they want to. They don't have things worse than Blacks, Hispanics, Natives, but you don't see a sizable number of those other groups just itching to go nazi.

These new old righties might come from a pool of people who are poor and suffering, but that's no excuse.

[alfredo]

50. I remember the McCarthy era.

Tail gunner Joe played on the fears. Reason was the enemy of the McCarthyites. The man behind Joe was Roy Cohen, Donald Trump's mentor.

His campaign was right out of the Roy Cohn playbook. The Trumpeters were hoodwinked by the best.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/21/us/politics/donald-trump-roy-cohn.html?_r=0

[Mc Mike]

54. Funny how repug political hack McCarthy saw commies everywhere,

and McCarthy aide Cohn's acolyte got the repugs' vote for prez while openly working with the biggest commie in the world.

Extra funny how all the 'anti commie' repug birchers jumped on board the dRump train, while dRump had 8 million open commie ties.

[alfredo]

55. They weren't so much anti communist as they were anti Stalin.

Father of the neocons, Irvine Kristol was a Trotskyite.

[Mc Mike]

56. I never saw Irv connected to the Birchers.

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I also never heard the JBS couch their criticisms in terms of Stalinism vs. Trotskyist or Schachtmanite.

When they called Eisenhower a commie, they weren't saying it would have been o.k. if he'd only like Trotsky.

When they called Fluoridation a commie plot, they never said it was a 'stalinist plot'.

And Stalin had been dead for 5 years before the birchers came into existence.

[roamer65]

44. Especially Illinois Nazis. N/t

[Mc Mike]

49. Check. Nt

[barbtries]

20. oh no, he's rabid.

we need, the media needs, to stop with the "alt-right" bullshit and call them what they are: Nazis and white supremacists.

[neeksgeek]

21. As a white male, this shit just infuriates me.

[malthaussen]

22. We stole it fair and square.

I suspect the emphasis is as much on "men" as "white."

-- Mal

[FiveGoodMen]

24. Goddamned Nazi says

Fixed that for ya

[Blue Shoes]

31. In everything but those words. nt

[zentrum]

25. He's right. It does belong to them.

That's what's wrong. And why we don't have the democracy of the people we are supposed to have. We must confront them at every turn, relentlessly.

I'm glad it's coming out into the open. POC and women have always known that this is the secret America keeps trying to bury. It's better to have it out, named, and florid in all its ugliness.

Makes it more urgent to fight them and easier to organize against them. This ugliness is the last stage of the unfinished Civil War as some pundit recently said.

Let's finally clean it out.

[Blue Shoes]

28. Well seeing as how they control the Legislative, Judicial, and Executive branches...

Its a bit of an uphill battle.

[guillaumeb]

26. How could they know it was Spencer?

Did he take his robe and hood off?

[Dawson Leery]

29. He is saying the one thing that Donnie Himmler Jr. cannot.

[sfwriter]

30. I encountered this BS in Missouri.

It was a shock to me after ten years in the bay area.

[renegade000]

34. By that logic, we need to go back to Radical Reconstruction....

Just sayin'

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4IGWn4uHeXI/Ua5eg8656xI/AAAAAAAAbvc/d5mRs1OT1NE/s400/Friends+++30.jpg

[bdamomma]

42. why can't this filthy guy

be stopped.

[Hekate]

43. Emphasis on "men" -- all others need not apply

Damn them to Hell. They can kiss my rosy Irish and oh so American ass.

[roamer65]

46. Spencer is a waste of DNA.

enuff said. I don't wanna be banned.

[Kablooie]

47. He rebranded it the "all-white" movement.

[Warpy]

51. They stole it fair and square! Just like the rest of the world!

The problem is that they've been largely kicked out of much of the world as leaders and even Europe is mixing things up fast. The old US of A is the only fantasy of some white folks' paradise they have left.

They might achieve it if they weren't so godawful concerned with turning it into a hell for everybody else, especially women.

[Jean-Jacques Roussea]

52. by his logic

Black people are the dominate race now because Obama "conquered" their highest office. America belongs to black men.

He'd probably be like "b-b-bbuh we had it first!", and then you say "so did native Americans right? What's the difference?".

I'm 100% sure Spencer's girlfriend left him for a minority before he started this "alt-right" biz.