BREAKING: Search warrant used to obtain Clinton emails during Weiner probe unsealed
Source: LawNewz
The Department of Justice on Tuesday released portions of search warrant obtained by the Federal Bureau of Investigation after its agents found emails pertinent to the Hillary Clinton investigation during the Bureaus Anthony Weiner probe. We are currently going through the warrant, and have posted a copy below. We will update this article as we find more details out from the warrant.
As LawNewz.com reported on Monday, a federal judge ordered the release of the materials after high-profile, Los Angeles attorney E. Randol Schoenberg filed a Freedom of Information Act the demanded the release of the materials.
At the heart of the case was whether Clinton has a privacy interest considering she was never charged with a crime. On that matter, the judge found, Clinton had little remaining privacy interest in the release of documents identifying her as the subject of the investigation because Director FBI Director James Comey held a public press conference this summer and Clinton herself spoke about the case.
Read more: http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/breaking-search-warrant-unsealed-that-was-used-to-obtain-clinton-emails-during-weiner-probe/
There is a link to the 21 page warrant.
The attorney who filed the lawsuit is named E. Randol Schoenberg. This is his comment on his public Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/randols?frefts
"I see nothing at all in the search warrant application that would give rise to probable cause, nothing that would make anyone suspect that there was anything on the laptop beyond what the FBI had already searched and determined not to be evidence of a crime, nothing to suggest that there would be anything other than routine correspondence between Secretary Clinton and her longtime aide Huma Abedin.
"You will have to ask Judge Fox, or the agent in charge (whose name has been redacted), or Director Comey, why they thought they might find evidence of a crime, why they felt it necessary to inform Congress, and why they even sought this search warrant.
"I am appalled."
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And this is a piece from the WA Post on October 30 that discusses the legal issues involved.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/10/30/was-it-legal-for-the-fbi-to-expand-the-weiner-email-search-to-target-hillary-clintons-emails/?utm_term.d0e847a5b7eb
A second issue is whether the FBI was permitted to seize the Abedin emails, which were outside the scope of the warrant, and to use them to reopen the investigation into Clintons email server. I think this is the bigger legal issue for the FBI. Most courts have treated this as a matter of the plain view exception. If the government is searching a computer, and it comes across files that are outside its warrant but are clear evidence of second unrelated crime, the usual government practice is to take those files and use them to get a second warrant to search the computer for the second crime. Thats what the FBI appears to be doing here. They are getting a second warrant after discovering Abedins emails because what was likely a first warrant for Weiners emails wouldnt justify the second and broader search. See, e.g., United States v. Carey, 172 F.3d 1268 (10th Cir. 1999).
But if thats true, theres a problem: The plain view exception does not allow evidence to be seized outside a warrant unless it is immediately apparent upon viewing it that it is evidence of another crime. Just looking quickly at the new evidence, there needs to be probable cause that it is evidence of a second crime to justify its seizure, which would presumably be necessary to apply for the second warrant. See Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321 (1987); United States v. Williams, 592 F. 3d 511, 522 (4th Cir. 2010).
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So, in other words, even though they found nothing prosecutable in the searches that ended in the summer, they asked the judge to let them do another search of another device, just in case. And he said okay.
lamp_shade
(14,850 posts)progressoid
(50,011 posts)I'm not holding my breath waiting for a big investigation.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)There ain't a damn thing there indicating any substantive change in the status of the FBI investigation of possible emails and the original conclusion - not for a candidate eleven days out from a national election.
Ilsa
(61,710 posts)He can go get fucked in a gulag.
lastlib
(23,356 posts)mopinko
(70,295 posts)fire the sob, install someone in their right minds, and cheeto is stuck w him.
find some honey badger, and put him/her in charge. we will need one.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)Russians for enabling Trump's Electoral College victory I doubt very seriously that Trump will take any action against him. And Trump's Justice Department won't go after him either.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)In January, the shit gets serious.
I expect Comey will not survive until the 21st.
Obama will be gone, Lynch will be gone - Comey gets to stay? No way!
deminks
(11,022 posts)We knew that when it happened, but it has always stuck in the back of my mind, like the warrant was an afterthought. I don't know if that means anything, but it didn't seem right to me.
ananda
(28,891 posts)Something stinks at the FBI.
atreides1
(16,103 posts)...that Robert Hanssan wasn't the only Russian contact in the FBI! If he was that good of an asset, why would the Russians leave him out in the cold...unless they already had other assets within of the FBI?
And now it was time for those senior agents to give something back to Mother Russia...just a theory!
Loki
(3,825 posts)Robert Hanssen was the first thing I thought about when Comey did his little GOPutin gift giving just days before the election. People say he has always been so concerned about his reputation. Let's make sure that overtime we post something on any board or twitter, the remind him "he's done".
FBaggins
(26,783 posts)For illustration, imagine that police get a warrant to search your home for illegal gummy bears. If you're home, then you can insist that they show you the warrant... but if you aren't home, they don't need to wait for you. They have the court's permission to search.
SunSeeker
(51,782 posts)That is why the Comey letter was so devastating.
As noted in the OP:
But if thats true, theres a problem: The plain view exception does not allow evidence to be seized outside a warrant unless it is immediately apparent upon viewing it that it is evidence of another crime. Just looking quickly at the new evidence, there needs to be probable cause that it is evidence of a second crime to justify its seizure, which would presumably be necessary to apply for the second warrant. See Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321 (1987); United States v. Williams, 592 F. 3d 511, 522 (4th Cir. 2010).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/10/30/was-it-legal-for-the-fbi-to-expand-the-weiner-email-search-to-target-hillary-clintons-emails/?utm_term.d0e847a5b7eb
That unsealed search warrant shows the FBI had no such "clear evidence of a second unrelated crime." In fact, they had nothing at all, let alone "clear evidence." In doing the search pursuant to their first (Weiner laptop) search warrant, it is now obvious the FBI did not come across any evidence of a "second, unrelated crime" by Hillary or anyone else. The fact that the FBI was nonetheless issued that second search warrant based on no evidence of a crime is truly stunning.
TonyPDX
(962 posts)Sorry. I worked my ass off for her.
yardwork
(61,748 posts)Any person who gave credence to these vague accusations and innuendo helped Trump buy the White House. It's as simple as that. Anybody who repeated rumors and innuendo about the Clintons helped destroy our nation. Period.
SunSeeker
(51,782 posts)SunSeeker
(51,782 posts)Hillary was a victim of 40 years of baseless smears. The people who mistrusted were suckered by anti-Clinton propaganda.
SunSeeker
(51,782 posts)barbtries
(28,817 posts)it seems i recall that once upon a time Comey's morality seemed unimpeachable. what happened to him?
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)He would be a target of Russian hackers just by nature of his position.
Ilsa
(61,710 posts)him in a civil action?
barbtries
(28,817 posts)because his reputation is shot clean through as far as i'm concerned.
i feel like there may have been a mutiny of sorts within the FBI but will probably never know the true or whole story.
littlemissmartypants
(22,850 posts)I'll wait while they try to bury the "fetal remains" of their contemptible idiocy.
RiverStone
(7,228 posts)And there is NO justice!
This would be hard enough if we felt the election loss was fair, though now we gotta live with knowing a number of factors (Comey included) unfairly affected the outcome... with potentially catastrophic results.
Historic NY
(37,457 posts)Why is it such a secret on a publicly filed document with the court signed and sworn too. There must be another copy out there.
http://schoenberg.com/Clinton/search%20warrant.pdf
LiberalFighter
(51,263 posts)And if there wasn't anything to indicate a second unrelated crime in the email where was the clear evidence?
pnwmom
(109,021 posts)like an affadavit or something.
There wasn't.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)That's the word that comes to mind. Second definition -
2. to treat with gross injustice; persecute; torment; torture.
She was crucified by the media, the FBI, the GOP ( including Congress) and some on the left.
yardwork
(61,748 posts)Don't forget the sexism.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)She was treated horribly and it was all done to her on purpose.
I have lost all faith on our system. It is rigged and in a most terrible way.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)On the off chance that Comney or anyone else is charged for this, they'll disappear. Can't risk them cutting a deal or going public.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)He is the hero.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)election for Trump.
lamp_shade
(14,850 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The RW media demands a public response and when she makes one the RW courts claim she surrendered her right to privacy.
world wide wally
(21,758 posts)ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with any FBI investigation
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Republicans probably had access to his laptop for years.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Then released a letter to Congress in the 11th hr knowing full well what that would do.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)Need to March into Fri headquarters, arrest Comey, from March him to the national mall, try him conspiracy to overthrow the electoral process, sentence to be carried out immediately.
However the chains of the electoral vote keeps us rabble in check. Por ahora.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)K?
yurbud
(39,405 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)charge of the Serial Killer task force.