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Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 05:50 PM Dec 2016

Finland to begin paying basic income to unemployed citizens

Source: Independent

Finland to begin paying basic income to unemployed citizens

Scandinavian country becomes first to adopt policy with new trial of 2,000 unemployed people
Ben Kentish
@BenKentish
3 hours ago




Finland is to introduce a basic income for some citizens from next month, becoming the first country to adopt the policy.

Two thousand unemployed people will be given 560 (480) every month for two years, without any restrictions or conditions attached. Leaders hope the move will improve life quality, reduce unemployment and create jobs.

Recipients will not need to prove they are looking for work and the money will be given regardless of any other income the person earns.

The Finnish government is planning to study whether the policy helps recipients find work. It suspects many unemployed people are put off getting a job because they will lose unemployment benefits and therefore be worse off financially a similar problem to that which tax credits were designed to solve in the UK.

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/finland-universal-basic-income-ubi-citizens-560-euros-monthly-job-poverty-unemployment-a7492911.html

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TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
3. Because that nation is NOT about creating criminals
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 06:40 PM
Dec 2016

To be housed in for-profit prisons (Finland doesn't have for-profit prisons, btw.).

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. This is a test--this is only a test. They aren't the first ones to do this, either.
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 06:42 PM
Dec 2016

People who just read headlines shouldn't move to Finland in hopes of getting a free ride. Universal basic income has been batted around for quite a while, now, and other tests have been done, too, before this one.

Those tiresome farts at The National Review find lots of reasons to hate the idea.


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436621/universal-basic-income-ubi-terrible-idea


It could be the paradigm for the future, though. Humans, down the ages, have worked very hard to figure out ways to work less!!!

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
5. I always thought the goal of social programs was to help those who are suffering,
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 07:23 PM
Dec 2016

not to work less.

It never would have occurred to some of us in a million years that the reason people have tried so long to find a workable solution for a world of clearly unequal human beings was to fix things so some people could take wildly unfair advantage of others. That's what we have had from the first of this amazing society build upon the graves of millions.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,232 posts)
11. Yup. Aetna's president was shocked to find out
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 12:43 AM
Dec 2016

how many of their customer service agents were on food stamps. He decided to raise the base wage to $16 an hour. He said the raises should pay for themselves in decreased turnover and increased productivity.

Like all health insurance company presidents, he's still a jerk, but less so than others.

http://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403257223/health-insurer-aetna-raises-wages-for-lowest-paid-workers-to-16-an-hour

Blue Idaho

(5,065 posts)
7. In every growing economy there are going to be unemployed workers
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:25 PM
Dec 2016

Why not accept that and provide for them as a part of a healthy national economy?

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