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RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 08:48 AM Dec 2016

Putin Says Russia Won't Expel Diplomats In Response To U.S. Sanctions

Source: NPR

Russian President Vladimir Putin says Russia won't be expelling U.S. diplomats in a tit-for-tat response to U.S. sanctions, as his foreign minister had suggested earlier Friday.

Instead, he says he will consider President-elect Donald Trump's actions as he considers how to move forward, The Associated Press reports.

Lavrov announced plans for Russia to respond in kind, as Lucian reported from Moscow. Lavrov's plan, which needed Putin's proposal, called for 35 American diplomats to be expelled, and for U.S. diplomats to "lose access to two buildings, just as Russian diplomats will no longer be able to use two retreats in Maryland and New York," Lucian reports.

But just two hours after Lavrov's comments, Putin announced there would be no such actions taken.

Read more: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/30/507525510/russia-plans-to-expel-u-s-diplomats-in-response-to-u-s-sanctions

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Putin Says Russia Won't Expel Diplomats In Response To U.S. Sanctions (Original Post) RKP5637 Dec 2016 OP
So, which is it?: Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2016 #1
Putin just made the final call. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #5
Why not? Is he spying on them, too? NT Ilsa Dec 2016 #2
Excellent point!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #6
always Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #23
Very interesting... Blue_Roses Dec 2016 #25
I knew the answer before asking it, Ilsa Dec 2016 #27
Yep - he sure is JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #26
He's Waiting Till After Jan 20th To Test His Puppet & Useful Idiot.... global1 Dec 2016 #3
Exactly!!! He's playing a strategic game with his new toy, Trump, poking him to see his RKP5637 Dec 2016 #4
yup. n/t MBS Dec 2016 #8
My guess is that MBS Dec 2016 #7
And if that doesn't work atreides1 Dec 2016 #11
Oh geez. The Trumpenfuhrer must have sent Pootie some roses and a box of chocolates. Vinca Dec 2016 #9
So he's making it look like he is the reasonable guy while Obama is overreacting, Chemisse Dec 2016 #10
It is a strategic play, KGB style. Likely totally unexpected. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #12
They discredited CNN too LittleBlue Dec 2016 #24
Nah. He'll just have his guys murder their pets, follow their children, and sneak Squinch Dec 2016 #13
Yep! SOS! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #14
Of course not; Putin is waiting for his poodle to take office on Jan 20. Alekzander Dec 2016 #15
Putin is playing a bigger game than you ma think kennetha Dec 2016 #16
Basically divide and conquer with a useful stooge at the helm of the US. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #17
He's got all their wires tapped and bugs planted. Greybnk48 Dec 2016 #18
Yep! Exactly!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #19
Oh Vlad Loki Dec 2016 #20
It must be downright boring to manipulate Trump. Chemisse Dec 2016 #21
Vlad just couldn't resist that orange glow, that mark could be seen miles away! RKP5637 Dec 2016 #22
I'll let this guy explain it to everyone else: Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #28

Ilsa

(61,709 posts)
27. I knew the answer before asking it,
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:44 AM
Dec 2016

of course, but had to bring it up.

Fascinating story of the boys and how the parents managed to lead double lives for so long. I wonder if the Manhatten real estate/soviet agent knew Trumputin? Seems like it's possible.

A few decades ago, I was living in another large city and met a single man, from western Canada, engineer with major energy company. He spoke French also, and although we knew each other briefly, I had wondered if it was possible he was a spy since I had heard that Soviet spies frequently routed thru Canada.

JustAnotherGen

(31,981 posts)
26. Yep - he sure is
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 09:42 AM
Dec 2016

They need to be called home . . .or hire local Russians as food tasters. Putin Poisons.

global1

(25,292 posts)
3. He's Waiting Till After Jan 20th To Test His Puppet & Useful Idiot....
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 09:03 AM
Dec 2016

Trump. He's going to see if his investment in Trump was worth it.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
4. Exactly!!! He's playing a strategic game with his new toy, Trump, poking him to see his
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 09:06 AM
Dec 2016

reactions.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
7. My guess is that
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 09:09 AM
Dec 2016

Putin probably thinks that Trump is likely to replace key US diplomats himself with a more Putin-friendly crowd.

I love the way that Obama set this up - that Trump will have to take explicit responsibility for any changes he makes to Obama's actions.

Chemisse

(30,820 posts)
10. So he's making it look like he is the reasonable guy while Obama is overreacting,
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 09:14 AM
Dec 2016

Giving Trump an excuse to back off of the sanctions after he's in.

Very clever, Putin.

At the same time, he has a handful of American diplomats to hold hostage, if the whim strikes.

Now let's see what Obama does.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
24. They discredited CNN too
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 03:09 PM
Dec 2016

CNN must have got some info when they reported the closure of an American school, only for Russian officials to deny it as "fake news." They're playing us.

This kind of action would have been useful before the election. Too little, too late.

Squinch

(51,074 posts)
13. Nah. He'll just have his guys murder their pets, follow their children, and sneak
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 09:38 AM
Dec 2016

into their houses to shit on their living room carpets while everyone is asleep. You know, the way he's been doing.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
16. Putin is playing a bigger game than you ma think
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 10:56 AM
Dec 2016

By making it abundantly clear that he regards Trump as his useful fool, he is actually intentionally sowing division among Americans, further undermining and discrediting our democracy. His goal isn't just to get a more friendly administration who will look the other way here and there. His goal is to humiliate America entirely, the way, in his mind America has humiliated Russia. How does he do that? He does it by first installing Trump, then making it clear that he regards Trump has his puppy, which makes it clear to many Americans that Trump not only lacks popular legitimacy, but also brings into question his formal legitimacy, by bringing into question the validity of the election, which divides Americans from each other, which discredits our democracy, which humiliate us in the eyes of the world, which makes us lose any claim to moral leadership of the so-called free world, which causes the free world to be rudderless and leaderless, especially if he can pull off similar tricks elsewhere, which gives Russia a free path to rise again!

So Trump is just a pawn in an elaborate chess game. Unfortunately for us he is too blind and narcissistic to appreciate the extent to which he is being used.

But maybe there's enough cold warrior left in some Republicans that they will not be taken in and will do everything they can both publicly and privately to stiffen the Donald's spine.

Greybnk48

(10,178 posts)
18. He's got all their wires tapped and bugs planted.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 11:33 AM
Dec 2016

Why waste good espionage when their man is going to the White House and won't prosecute his comrades under any circumstances.

Chemisse

(30,820 posts)
21. It must be downright boring to manipulate Trump.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 02:08 PM
Dec 2016

Putin must be highly amused that we elected such a simpleton.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
22. Vlad just couldn't resist that orange glow, that mark could be seen miles away!
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 02:15 PM
Dec 2016

Trump still doesn't get what's going on, like DUH!

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