Mexican President comes out swinging & orders consulates in U.S. to protect Mexicans

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Source: DailyKos





By Egberto Willies

Thursday Jan 26, 2017 · 6:00 AM CST



Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto came out swinging as he completely disregarded Trump's new executive orders building the wall....................

Donald Trump is now being faced by an emboldened Mexican President that is no longer playing nice. Let us see who blinks first. Enrique Peña Nieto reiterated that he is not paying for the wall. Following is the entire translation of his speech.


.....................Today, the President of the United States signed two executive orders related to our country. One to implement immigration issues. And the other to extend the wall on the border. In response, I've ordered the Secretary of Foreign Affairs to reinforce protection measures for our nationals. The fifty Mexican consulates in the United States will be converted into authentic defenders of the rights of immigrants.

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I regret and reject the decision by the United States to continue the construction of a wall that for years, instead of uniting us, divides us. ..................

As the President of the Republic,..................

Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/26/1625328/-Mexican-President-comes-out-swinging-amp-orders-consulates-in-U-S-to-protect-Mexicans

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Nice bold short speech.

[metroins]

1. Mexico will lose

Mexico has a lot more to lose from going toe-to-toe with the USA than we have with Mexico.

Replacing Mexico as a trade partner would not be a difficult thing and Mexico would turn into Venezuela.

We shall see how this plays out, I think everybody is playing it wrong.

[safeinOhio]

8. China will offer

Them some great deals for rockets behind that fence.

[harun]

17. this

One can imagine the next Presidential campaign the Democrat asking "Why Mr. Trump is there now 50,000 Chinese tanks sitting on our Southern border?"

[LanternWaste]

11. What specifically leads you to believe that...?

What specifically leads you to believe that replacing our third largest trading partner (531b$ during 2015) would not be difficult?

[metroins]

20. Because there is cheap labor all around the world

and Trump doesn't care about Human Rights.

[watoos]

24. I don't have the figures

but Texas is going to feel the pain, a lot of its trade is with Mexico.

[tazkcmo]

31. Mexico is more than cheap labor.

Not everybody in Mexico is dirt poor, after all. They are tourists that visit and shop. They also have many relatives living here. Last I checked, the factories where all the "cheap labor" works are located in Mexico. Surely the Mexican government has some say about what enters and exits their country.

We will be the losers in this when China and Russia step up and make friendly overtures to all our allies Shit Gibbon alienates and pisses off.

[bravenak]

12. The World will follow Mexico

We done got ourselves into some shit. Nobody will stand by us when our Pres says shit right outta Hitlers handbook

[randome]

14. It's about to become fashionable to give whiny, loser Trump the finger.

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[bravenak]

16. I agree with you, yep.

It's cool to hate Trump. Him being so crazy and nasty and racist just helps us gather more people to our side. Everyday he makes shit worse for himself.

[geek tragedy]

23. 40% of Mexican exports to the US are originally US-sourced.

Supply-chain flows both ways for the same goods.

Also, what happens if Mexico legalizes pot and cocaine and/or refuses to cooperate in drug interdiction?

[tazkcmo]

32. "what happens if Mexico legalizes pot and cocaine and/or refuses to cooperate in drug interdiction?"

We can only hope...

[LeftInTX]

2. Can Pena's order protect Americans of Mexican descent?

Please, pretty please!!!

[bucolic_frolic]

3. Strong diplomatic pressure

from a neighbor

What might other countries do?

How far will foreign diplomatic pressure go?

[Zorro]

44. Trump is turning the USA into a pariah nation

He is offending foreign allies while also threatening to invade our own major cities.

And his first week in office isn't even over.

I don't see how this can continue without wrecking the country and the government.

[bucolic_frolic]

45. Pollute and kill

Let's invade Chicago!

It would get laughs if it weren't so tragic

[IronLionZion]

4. They're going to get Trumped

His most likely route to get Mexico to pay for the wall is through lowering the corporate tax rates. And having lower rates for US exports and higher rates for imports.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/yes-trump-can-make-mexico-pay-for-the-border-wall-heres-how/2017/01/17/7edf7872-dcbf-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html?utm_term=.7cbf48acc480

[christx30]

10. One idea I saw was to put a tax on

remittances going to Mexico. Remittances from Mexicans living in the US are the second biggest source of their GDP, second only to oil.

So Trump may tax them, or block them entirely. That can seriously hurt Mexico.

[NCjack]

18. Unintended consequences. If Mexico hurts, then more Mexicans will come to USA.

[IronLionZion]

40. I also saw a plan to allow people to pay for work visas

[geek tragedy]

25. actually, it will be US consumers and merchants who pay for that, not Mexico. nt

[IronLionZion]

33. Depends on how they implement it

The WaPo article seems to think Mexican companies would pay for it while American companies would get a break.

[geek tragedy]

34. The US can't tax companies in Mexico.

Border taxes of any kind always get passed down the distribution chain, down to the seller and consumer.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-breakingviews-idUSKBN15920G

But the benefits and costs are uneven. Retailers selling imported products, like clothes, shoes and electronics, say the border-adjusted tax would increase their costs - which rings true, since some would essentially be taxed on something close to their revenue, rather than their profit, outweighing the benefit of a lower headline rate of tax. The National Retail Federation says the idea would force its members to raise prices for consumers by up to 15 percent. Other industries that rely on imported parts, like the auto sector, could be hurt, too. Gasoline prices could also go up since the tax would apply to oil imports.

[bucolic_frolic]

47. Companies don't pay

they pass along costs to consumers. They are a profit-seeking enterprise after all.

They may find sales fall 40%, so if they lower prices and eat some of the tariff
fees, ok, but how long will they do that?

[geek tragedy]

48. slightly more complicated as this is the elimination of a tax deduction more than an actual tax nt

[Lucky Luciano]

35. It would hurt them too, but we get hit as well.

Tge fuhrer loves to spread the pain.

[geek tragedy]

36. It really doesn't touch Mexicans directly at all.

It certainly increases incentives to export and to not import, but in terms of collecting money 100% would be from US companies, and that cost would get passed on to consumers.

[Lucky Luciano]

38. Not true

A tax would hurt Mexico too - higher price means lower demand for their goods.

[geek tragedy]

41. indirectly it does hit them, but all of the direct costs are born by American

companies and consumers

[IronLionZion]

46. 20% tax on imports from Mexico

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141679408

American will pay for the stupid wall and Dipshit will tell us that Mexico is paying for it.

[elfin]

39. Plus, finding some way to prevent family here from sending $ to relatives back home. eom

[yallerdawg]

5. Nations build walls between them when they are enemies.

This shit is all in that sociopath's head so Mexico has to go higher when the jackass goes lower.

[meadowlark5]

6. One of the talking heads last night wondered if Mexico might turn to China

I don't fully understand foreign affairs when it comes to trade and such but it seems anything that helps China bugs the orange one.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. Many countries are looking to China: EU, UK, Canada, Philippines, ... . . . nt

[mopinko]

7. our former allies will be the ones building a wall. a wall of resistance.

whatever we manage internally, we will have a lot of support from outside this country.

when it becomes clear that the world order is against us, i think this thing will crack.

[justhanginon]

9. President Nieto has infinitely more patience and tact than I do.

I would have gone with; whatever, have your country get back to me when you have an adult for president.

[notdarkyet]

13. American citizens in Mexico.

They could throw them out of their country. There are millions, not citizens living there.

[msongs]

19. those expats bring in tons of $$, not likely to be a target of retribution nt

[packman]

21. Damn it - in it's purist form it's just downright racism

Call it for what it is -

Bravo Pres. Enrique Peña Nieto decent Americans hearts are with you

[Hekate]

22. Trump is going to isolate us from our closest friends. Otoh, good for Pena.

[irisblue]

26. You go President Nieto nt

[still_one]

27. I think it is a record for the shortest time it took a new president to create an international

incident

[Oneironaut]

28. Trump wants Chinese troops on our border.

What a dumbass. This is all about his ego.

[The_Casual_Observer]

29. All of this is totally unnecessary. Why is this

fight with Mexico happening? For what purpose? Why is this wall all of a sudden necessary?

[SCVDem]

30. The Rethugs liked to play 'shut down the government'!

If I were Mexico I would shut the border and flip off tRump.
Let the trucks and cars back up to San Diego.

That will give all the Rump voters time to think about what they have done!

Do you want to play a game?

[Initech]

43. And it's turning out to be quite the dangerous game at that.

Can we make them irrelevant and declare their experiment a failure?

[Anonymous Bosh]

37. Yeesh we live in interesting times... n/t

[Initech]

42. Someone or multiple countries are going to declare war on us in the next 100 days.

Good lord, Trump is pissing everybody and everything off.