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jpak

(41,759 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:37 AM Feb 2017

Navy: Special forces flew Trump flag in convoy

Source: USA Today

LOUISVILLE — It's official: The military convoy seen flying a Trump flag in Louisville on Sunday belonged to a Navy Special Warfare unit, and the flag was "unauthorized," a Navy spokeswoman said.

Lt. Jacqui Maxwell of the Naval Special Warfare Group 2 in Virginia Beach, Va., said a command inquiry is underway.

“Yes, it was inappropriate,” Maxwell said. “It was unauthorized.”

She said she did not know the potential penalties for the violation.

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Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/02/02/military-convoy-flew-trump-flag-convoy/97388366/

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Navy: Special forces flew Trump flag in convoy (Original Post) jpak Feb 2017 OP
Somebody is going to be sharp_stick Feb 2017 #1
wtf is a dt flag? Ugh, nevermind, saw it. nt babylonsister Feb 2017 #2
Is this it? Blanks Feb 2017 #26
cant be...hands too big. nt pkdu Feb 2017 #51
can't be.............. MyOwnPeace Feb 2017 #52
Whelp, THOSE assholes should certainly be demoted, cashiered, sent to Portsmouth. Mc Mike Feb 2017 #3
doubt that anything will happen RegexReader Feb 2017 #34
Can't claim to know all military protocol, and I don't think they'll be punished, like they deserve. Mc Mike Feb 2017 #38
What you said. Delphinus Feb 2017 #46
Thanks, Delph. nt. Mc Mike Feb 2017 #50
Well, if those guys in the Navy SPECIAL WARFARE Unit want to pangaia Feb 2017 #4
He has his own flag? wryter2000 Feb 2017 #5
yup jpak Feb 2017 #7
I've seen that somewhere before.... harun Feb 2017 #18
ISIS...when you look for locations to retaliate..remember the trump flag Fresh_Start Feb 2017 #6
Isn't that wonderful atreides1 Feb 2017 #8
bet all these trumpchumps get heaven05 Feb 2017 #9
Don't let this die. Someone needs a Court Martial for this maxrandb Feb 2017 #10
I agree gopiscrap Feb 2017 #22
That's a bit hyperbolic maxrandb Feb 2017 #25
still think they should be blindfolded tied to a post and shot gopiscrap Feb 2017 #33
No you don't. xor Feb 2017 #56
I couldn't get past a USAToday paywall SticksnStones Feb 2017 #11
again Ivanka bdamomma Feb 2017 #20
Hope they are ready to lay down their lives for him TBA Feb 2017 #12
+100 nt iluvtennis Feb 2017 #14
You can let this SPECWAR Command's Echelon II Commander know what you think about this maxrandb Feb 2017 #13
WTF, this is the USA, not Trumpland. Only US flag can be flown (if any) from that mil vehicle nt iluvtennis Feb 2017 #15
They need to be let go rockfordfile Feb 2017 #16
I agree Abouttime Feb 2017 #39
There will be no repercussions. old guy Feb 2017 #17
If everyone took the same approach to taxes as their hero BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #19
Was that to celebrate their fellow serviceman getting killed in Yemen? world wide wally Feb 2017 #21
Good question gopiscrap Feb 2017 #23
Trump's Bengahzi? hexola Feb 2017 #24
Imagine this scenario if you will maxrandb Feb 2017 #27
Just who did they swear allegiance to? dem4decades Feb 2017 #28
Reminds me of one of the funniest damn things I ever saw from the right maxrandb Feb 2017 #29
Yeah.....I was on the Reddit thread.....good times, good times. nt msanthrope Feb 2017 #40
I'd ask why Trump even has a flag Retrograde Feb 2017 #30
How close are we to a coup in this country? geek tragedy Feb 2017 #31
They should be cashiered! burrowowl Feb 2017 #32
Geez not fooled Feb 2017 #35
Was this before or after the Yemen raid? Bradical79 Feb 2017 #36
A little before, perhaps even during. haele Feb 2017 #55
That's a dangerous precedent. Solly Mack Feb 2017 #37
What's the equivalent of a 2LT in the Navy? DashOneBravo Feb 2017 #41
Ensign jmowreader Feb 2017 #42
Well there is a reason DashOneBravo Feb 2017 #44
True 2LT story jmowreader Feb 2017 #45
See? Exactly DashOneBravo Feb 2017 #47
Here's a better one jmowreader Feb 2017 #48
Since Trump is currently running for reelection, DOD Directive 1344.10 applies jmowreader Feb 2017 #43
Thanks for all the specific info in your posts, jm. Mc Mike Feb 2017 #49
Military selects these guys and makes sure they hate Muslims and Asians. What do we expect? Hoyt Feb 2017 #53
Thanks, jmowreader! MyOwnPeace Feb 2017 #54

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
1. Somebody is going to be
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:38 AM
Feb 2017

responsible for raising and lowering the flag at a remote base in Greenland for a long time.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
3. Whelp, THOSE assholes should certainly be demoted, cashiered, sent to Portsmouth.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:40 AM
Feb 2017

You can't fight to defend the Constitution if you're too dumb to understand it.

Supremely disrespectful of the American flag, and America, btw.

RegexReader

(416 posts)
34. doubt that anything will happen
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:48 PM
Feb 2017

because that's not where the US flag would be flown from a vehicle anyways. Plus, with Trump going to the airport with his daughter is going to give them cover for anything at the moment.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
38. Can't claim to know all military protocol, and I don't think they'll be punished, like they deserve.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:08 AM
Feb 2017

But no flag of a politician should be flown by our troops, on American citizen-owned military vehicles or bases, no matter what kind of right wing nut job dRumpf fan boys those troops happen to be.

They swore an oath to defend the Constitution, not to be the private army of a draft dodging coward, no matter how stupid they are, or how much they just lurve that nazi.

If it isn't an American flag, it shouldn't be flying on military property, period. Who gives a crap if they were IN a dRumpf motorcade? And they weren't.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. Well, if those guys in the Navy SPECIAL WARFARE Unit want to
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:40 AM
Feb 2017

practice some of their 'special warfare' techniques, they sure have the right guy for it.

Personally, if I were in the Navy, I would much rather stay alive.

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
8. Isn't that wonderful
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:43 AM
Feb 2017

Saluting the man who got one of their own killed...I wonder how many of them will end up dying before they realize that they are nothing but cannon fodder to him!!!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
9. bet all these trumpchumps get
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:43 AM
Feb 2017

is a slap on the wrist....I believe NOTHING coming out of ANY command structure this country now has. So far it's all been LIES!!!!!!

maxrandb

(15,355 posts)
25. That's a bit hyperbolic
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 02:16 PM
Feb 2017

but the commander of the unit and whoever else thought this was a "good idea" need an appearance at Non-Judicial Punishment or Special Court Martial, and their careers should be OVER!

gopiscrap

(23,765 posts)
33. still think they should be blindfolded tied to a post and shot
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 03:58 PM
Feb 2017

that would send a chill into any other fucking idiot asshole in the military who would think it is appropriate. To me it's still treasonous!!!

maxrandb

(15,355 posts)
13. You can let this SPECWAR Command's Echelon II Commander know what you think about this
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 12:05 PM
Feb 2017

It's U.S. Fleet Forces Command. They might have a website with contact info or something

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
39. I agree
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:31 AM
Feb 2017

A stunt as egregious as this should end a career, it shows poor judgement.
The entire country is enraged by this stolen election and someone in our armed services shoves in our faces?
Heads need to roll. Forty percent of Americans want tRump impeached and he's only been in office 2 weeks!

BeyondGeography

(39,379 posts)
19. If everyone took the same approach to taxes as their hero
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 12:26 PM
Feb 2017

these fools wouldn't have a job, let alone all that cool gear we provide them.

maxrandb

(15,355 posts)
27. Imagine this scenario if you will
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 02:17 PM
Feb 2017

A convoy of military vehicles, weapons bristling, troops in uniform rolling through an American city with an Obama Flag.

maxrandb

(15,355 posts)
29. Reminds me of one of the funniest damn things I ever saw from the right
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 02:22 PM
Feb 2017

Last edited Thu Feb 16, 2017, 12:46 PM - Edit history (1)

President Obama was speaking in Ohio. Some threads on that "t-bagging, wingnut site" got well over a couple of hundred responses with people just aghast that President Obama had his "own flag"...not only did they go apoplectic about that, but they were at "Depends Level Code Brown" because they said it appeared President Obama had simply made some changes to the American flag to come up with this "Obama Flag".



Think about the above for a minute and then "google" "State Flag of Ohio"

Retrograde

(10,156 posts)
30. I'd ask why Trump even has a flag
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 02:53 PM
Feb 2017

but I remembered that several corporations have their own flags - which are only seen at corporate offices.

So let troops fly the flag of a private corporation - it will remind them what they're really fighting and dying for.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
31. How close are we to a coup in this country?
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 02:57 PM
Feb 2017

Dear lord. He has his own private commandos operating within the US armed services.

Everyone of those guys needs to be kicked out of the military as they're the type who threaten freedom instead of protecting it.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
35. Geez
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:09 PM
Feb 2017

If they're gonna pick someone to fly a flag for, can't they do better than a draft-dodging, military-dissing, head case chickenhawk?

I guess the braggadocio and bluster outweigh everything else.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
36. Was this before or after the Yemen raid?
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:36 PM
Feb 2017

I can't remember the timing. I imagine many aren't feeling all rah rah for President Trump at the moment.

haele

(12,676 posts)
55. A little before, perhaps even during.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:49 PM
Feb 2017

"Celebration" before the results were in. Rah, rah boys.
Stupid f***ers.

Haele

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
45. True 2LT story
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:58 PM
Feb 2017

I was in the field with a radar intercept team once. Our mission was to scan the aether for radar signals. We were getting ready to do that when a 2LT stopped us...

"Whatcha doing?"
'Getting ready to search for radars.'
"You don't have to do that. There aren't any to search for."
'How do you know, sir?'
"Because I don't hear any."

At this point the guy I was working with got very insubordinate.

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
47. See? Exactly
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 04:16 PM
Feb 2017

We always had good ones but we made sure that at least two other people were checking our position. Lol

Wanna have a good laugh do a google search on 2LT memes.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
48. Here's a better one
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 04:31 PM
Feb 2017

One of the S-2 guys in 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne was a butter bar named Thurlow. He got the nickname Lockout Thurlow because he liked to change safe combinations without testing them. After the first one happened, my platoon put in a request for a graduate of the CIA Lock Picking course. After the second one, the brigade commander banished him to my unit...where, relieved of his safe-destroying tools, he turned out to be a nice kid.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
43. Since Trump is currently running for reelection, DOD Directive 1344.10 applies
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 04:52 PM
Feb 2017

That wonderful little document is entitled, "Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces." What you see here falls into the "prohibited activities" sphere.

I take it Naval Special Warfare doesn't do load cards. The Army's "investigation" of this would be short and sweet: pull that vehicle's load card and get the names of the driver and vehicle commander, then bring in those two plus their platoon sergeant, platoon leader, company commander, the battalion motor officer and motor sergeant, and anyone else in the motor pool who could have stopped this vehicle from going through the gate with a Trump flag on the antenna, read Article 31 of the UCMJ (the military version of the Miranda warning) to them, and advise that if someone doesn't give up the names of the people who did it, the entire group is going to be charged with Conspiracy (Article 81), Failure to Obey a Lawful Order or Regulation (Article 92), Damaging Military Equipment (Article 108 - you DO NOT run down the freeway with your antennas not tied down!) and Perjury (Article 131). Fifteen seconds later, "it was that motherfucker right there" will ring forth.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
49. Thanks for all the specific info in your posts, jm.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 10:10 PM
Feb 2017

Good catch, with drumpf already filed as a candidate and the DOD Directive being pertinent because of it, too.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
54. Thanks, jmowreader!
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 10:40 PM
Feb 2017

I'd like to think that our trained military would be better versed on expected and proper procedures, not like the good-ole'-boys in their pick-ups flying the Confederate flag at the Dew-Drop Inn just down the road.
At the same time, you still see "polls" showing that there are great numbers out there approving what Cheeto is doing and we can't expect him to be on his way out tomorrow, much as we'd like that to happen.
But we MUST keep up on situations like this - don't let it "vanish" and don't let anybody get away with something that is so totally wrong!

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