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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 01:20 PM Feb 2017

Trumps loose talk about Muslims gets weaponized in court against travel ban

Source: Washington Post

Throughout Donald Trumps campaign and now into the first weeks of his presidency, critics suggested that he cool his incendiary rhetoric, that his words matter. His defenders responded that, as Corey Lewandowski said, he was being taken too literally. Some, like Vice President Pence, wrote it off to his colorful style. Trump himself recently explained that his rhetoric about Muslims is popular, winning him standing ovations."

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The states of Washington and Minnesota, which sued to block Trumps order, are citing the presidents inflammatory rhetoric as evidence that the governments claims its not a ban and not aimed at Muslims are shams.

In court papers, Washington and Minnesotas attorneys general have pulled out quotes from speeches, news conferences and interviews as evidence that an executive order the administration argues is neutral was really motivated by animus toward Muslims and a desire to harm a particular group.

His words, the two states say in their brief, show that the President acted in bad faith in an effort to target Muslims. The courts, they say, have both the right and duty to examine Trumps true motives.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/02/07/words-matter-trumps-loose-talk-about-muslims-gets-weaponized-in-court-against-travel-ban/?utm_term=.9adcea272856



The DOJ is essentially arguing that President Trump is publicly lying and should be ignored. Instead, the court should accept the pretext given by the federal government for targeting Muslims, er engaging in extremer vetting.

If the DOJ wins, then all a government needs to do is offer a non-discriminatory pretext that the court must accept regardless of actual evidence of animus.
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Trumps loose talk about Muslims gets weaponized in court against travel ban (Original Post) TomCADem Feb 2017 OP
Words have consequences ... DemoTex Feb 2017 #1
What! Use his words and tweets! That's not fair!!!! Wahhhhh uppityperson Feb 2017 #2
If the court goes against him he is going to flip out. I think they took notdarkyet Feb 2017 #8
Rudy's words DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #3
Rudy cant keep his mouth shut. Seems to be a wh wide problem. notdarkyet Feb 2017 #7
For us, that's a good thing DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #9
ALWAYS use R's words against them - use exact quotes wordpix Feb 2017 #4
Court is a literal place. nt Chalco Feb 2017 #5
Have you noticed, every time rump speaks a surrogate has to come out notdarkyet Feb 2017 #6

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
8. If the court goes against him he is going to flip out. I think they took
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 03:22 PM
Feb 2017

Away his phone this last day so he could not dig his grave deeper with the judge. Bet he's having withdrawals.

DeminPennswoods

(15,292 posts)
3. Rudy's words
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 02:13 PM
Feb 2017

Guiliani is the one who really sunk the ship here by going on FoxNews and bragging about how Trump came to him, asked how to do a muslim ban legally and how Rudy came up with the brilliant idea to use "danger" instead of religion to ban people.

What's that adage? "Your own man said it".

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
4. ALWAYS use R's words against them - use exact quotes
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 02:23 PM
Feb 2017

to out their bigotry and anti-conservation, anti-labor, anti-public education and pro-corporate agenda

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
6. Have you noticed, every time rump speaks a surrogate has to come out
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 03:17 PM
Feb 2017

And explain what he really meant to say. We are so screwed.

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