Poll: Trump's approval rating slides

[highplainsdem]

Source: The Hill

President Trump’s approval rating is sliding during his first two weeks in the White House, a new poll has found.

A Morning Consult/Politico poll released on Wednesday found that 47 percent of voters approve of Trump’s job performance, down from 49 percent in the same poll the previous week.

Trump’s disapproval rating has also increased from 41 percent to 46 percent.

The poll also found that a majority of registered Democrats do not want their elected officials to work with the president. Just 34 percent of Democrats say they want Dems in Congress to find “ways to work with President Trump in order to get things done.”

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Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/318433-poll-trumps-approval-rating-continues-to-slide

[tenorly]

1. Just imagine where it would be

without Faux News.

[mucifer]

2. Mind boggling all the hate. I think his numbers are crazy high.

[beachbum bob]

3. trump needs to hit 60% disapproval range before it sinks in

with him and conservatives in congress....they won the election with 45%...so these numbers mean little

[True Dough]

5. I don't think 60% really would faze him either

It's all "fake news." He just explains away the negative. Manufactured by the "disgusting media."

[DK504]

16. I want to watch him completely lose his mind on live tv.

That would be so sweet.

[mreilly]

4. You know what kills me though?

The few friends I have that are Trump voters are decent enough - we don't talk politics by unspoken agreement. But they just ignore all this shit. They fucking ignore it. I'm sure they think it's all fake news, liberal media, sore losers, blah blah blah. I'd really like to see what it would take for any of them to actually turn on Trump and wake the hell up.

Sadly, the only thing that comes to mind is Trump coming to town and sexually assaulting their daughters (or perhaps just drooling over them and saying "I'll be dating HER in ten years" - and even that is iffy).

[dalton99a]

6. I believe most deplorables will go to their graves hating Hillary and her email server.

[riversedge]

10. I think that is is true for many of them.

[progressoid]

9. Yep. Most have put up a shield to anything that might enlighten them.

[Mc Mike]

7. O.K., here's my problem with the polls, in a nutshell:

On this site, we had a Quinn poll reported on 1/27, that showed dRumpf's approval slid from ~45% at inauguration, down to 36%.
There are a bunch of posts in the archive, but here's one from Miles A:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028545641

Then, after an especially busy, sucky, controversial weekend of team dRumpf 'work', Gallup reported a poll saying that it 'slid' further, dropping from 36% way 'down' to 42% on 1/30. There are a bunch of archive posts, here's one from rivers:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016175977

Now, after a bunch more nazi moves, controversies, f**k ups that are typical of repug governance, repeatedly getting caught in lies, this Politico poll has him 'dropping' some more, all the way 'down' to 47% approval.

No criticism meant of your reporting this, hpd. But that orange hemarrhoid only had 47% of the voters, backing him, to start with. Now the different polling companies are taking turns reporting their polls, trotting out their new results one at a time, a half week or a week apart, in succession. They're all supposed to be legit polls, with proper sampling, correct methodologies, etc.

Those polls keep saying the bottom line is that twitler's divisive, draconian, alienating power plays are turning more and more Americans against him, those moves are getting massive coverage and the results are negative for his favorability. But every time they update their polls, he keeps falling UPWARD in officially tallied numbers.

If he keeps dropping like this, we're going to get reports of 100% approval ratings in no time, as long as he stays the course and keeps doing things like attacking the rights of every single non-nazi American, and threatening all our allies and neighbors like Australia, Canada, and Mexico whilst puckering up for Putin.

The Ministry of Truth reported that the chocolate rations would be dropped, from 40 grammes down to 20. Then later, they reported that the chocolate rations were going to be doubled, all the way up to 20 grammes.

[titaniumsalute]

8. Remember a few things

1. These polls are mainly looking at all adults...not registered or likely voters.

2. Usually after an election many people try to be optimistic about a new President. That's why Obama was in the 60% approval range out of the gate. Even though he didn't win by that margin.

3. Polls vary in methodology. Gallup has had Trump at like 42% approval and 53% disapproval for a couple of days now.

[Mc Mike]

12. Nothing against you for your analysis, ts, but

I wasn't relying on his % of the popular vote to judge his initial approval rating. Rivers' gallup poll link gave his initial citizen (voting and non-voting public) approval rating, which was pretty much the same as his popular voter approval rating. So the final official vote total was as good a poll as any of the 3 others I discussed, and was backed up by post election polls.

I already addressed the legitimacy of polls, how they all supposedly have proper sampling, correct methodologies (even if varying), no slanted questons, should be considered legit and correct (because the media gives its imprimatur of approval by reporting the companies results without critical comment). The point is that they are released in succession, keep reporting drops, to the public, in the media. And their numbers are released in succession in such a way that shows the numbers going up while they report 'drops'. "Dropping upwards".

Feel free to back certain polls, admire their methodologies, find them credible, think their question framing and sequencing is honest and above board, and is designed to discover but not to influence, etc. But a methodology 'explanation' for the discrepancy just amounts to an excuse for a variation of more than 10% in the reported 'legitimate' results. When all the polling outfits are supposed to be credible and respectable, and they vary so very much in the reports they issue, there is no reason to believe anything they're saying.

Is his approval dropping? Hell, yeah, how could it not be, as he lurches from one disaster, radical move, and controversy to another?

Did he start as high as they said he did? What earthly reason is there to believe it?

If one outfit says dropped to 36% and another says dropped to 47%, and the media gives both outfits equal credibility and reports both results equally without comment, what we're left with is 'believe what you want'. They can't both be true, the numbers differ beyond the combined margins of error for the conflicting polls.

'Flawed methodology' is an excuse that lets the polling companies off the hook, and lets the media keep reporting whatever numbers they want with no stain of failure attached to media or polls. The bottom line is the public is getting these wildly varying results reported to us as equally true. They can't be equally true, it's impossible. Saying 'different methodologies' is the same thing as saying 'believe what you want'.

There's no reason to believe any of their numbers, when they're given equal legitimacy and vary so wildly. So what we're left with is the media reports he's dropping, and issues the reports sequentially so the numbers rise.

That isn't too difficult to see through.

[titaniumsalute]

14. This is the way it will always be

Why? Each media company hires for their own polling. They pick the research company they wish to use and purchase polls to be conducted. You can't necessarily call methodology flawed because if the a conducting different types of call-out or online data collection, each have its own merits.

I understand your frustration though. You see 5 polls released close in time and then you see the various results. What is truth?

[Mc Mike]

15. Clearly, the gulf between our opinions is wide.

I appreciate you knowedgeably trying to explain things for me, but you appear to be blind to my points.

A trite old saw like 'it is what it is' isn't going to cut it, and is doomed to be unedifying. So is further technical discussion about the inner workings of polling processes.

You can clearly call all but one of the polling companies' results flawed, because they are all being given equal credence by the media reporting them, and clearly can't all be true. So if 2 out of 3 are clearly wrong, then why believe the 3rd?

You misread my clear indictment as frustration. I think my MiniTruth reference was pretty clearly stated.

[riversedge]

11. I get you drift. Wording is important.

[Mc Mike]

13. I didn't mind the gallup poll reporting, or the quinn report from a half week earlier.

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No criticism was meant against you for o.p ing the gallup, and I picked it because it was top of the search results from the site google function. And I have nothing against hpd reporting the latest poll stating a drop occurred.

But the polling companies and media outlets are creating opinion, not reflecting it. They're not creating opinion that he's dropping, everyone can see he's a miserable failure and hated by the majority of the US and planet.

They're creating the opinion that despite the fact that more and more people hate him, he still has almost half of all Americans that favor him. They're telling everyone 'just because everyone you know hates his guts, and the (miserably small number of) people who are (openly) his fans are shutting up and are unable to show any large scale effort that backs him, that doesn't mean he still isn't supported by half the country.'

[Bengus81]

17. His approval slides again yet they report that 55% are approving of his travel ban?!?!

Something seems very fucking strange about those numbers they posted.