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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:42 AM Feb 2017

Trump sued over '1-in-2-out' regulations order

Source: The Hill

Liberal groups are challenging President Trump’s order requiring federal agencies to repeal two regulations for every new rule they issue.

The National Resources Defense Council (NRDC), Communications Workers of America, and Public Citizens sued Trump on Wednesday in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia to block the so-called “1-in-2-out” executive order.

The left-leading groups argue Trump’s Jan. 30 order exceeds his authority under the Constitution and will block important health, safety and environmental protections without taking the benefits of those rules into account.

Chris Shelton, president of the Communications Workers of America, said workers shouldn’t be required to “trade off one set of job, health and safety protections in order to get protection from another equally dangerous condition.”

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Read more: http://thehill.com/regulation/318457-trump-sued-over-1-in-2-out-regulations-order

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Trump sued over '1-in-2-out' regulations order (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2017 OP
Yeah, Who Needs The Administrative Procedures Act? TomCADem Feb 2017 #1
Ah, the wonders of autocracy. tenorly Feb 2017 #9
Good to hear! Equinox Moon Feb 2017 #2
Good. Oppose and fight. dalton99a Feb 2017 #3
Soon I'll be able to add another to the list. randome Feb 2017 #4
How many lawsuits will be filed for all his bogus DK504 Feb 2017 #5
They haven't really cared about the democratic process for quite some time ... Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2017 #6
We now clearly know who is... yallerdawg Feb 2017 #7
Another lawsuit for trump to lose Gothmog Feb 2017 #8
Irony is that he spent much of his business career suing people rather than paying them their due. mpcamb Feb 2017 #19
what drew executive orders melm00se Feb 2017 #10
Nothing. meadowlander Feb 2017 #12
Oh. I thougt it was about his.. question everything Feb 2017 #11
Good! Resist! lillypaddle Feb 2017 #13
Resist and Persist! hamsterjill Feb 2017 #14
He's going off on twitter before the ruling comes down. Such a long notdarkyet Feb 2017 #15
good, I'm sending $ to NRDC today! wordpix Feb 2017 #16
Now he's getting sued for meaningless EO that will never go into effect grantcart Feb 2017 #17
Good. Challenge the fuck out of this pot-belly despot! Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #18

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
1. Yeah, Who Needs The Administrative Procedures Act?
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:44 AM
Feb 2017

Lets just ignore a Congressional Law governing how regulations are adopted, and impose some arbitrary standard that directly conflicts with it.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
9. Ah, the wonders of autocracy.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:04 PM
Feb 2017

Let's enjoy DU - and all other reality-based sites - while we still can.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. Soon I'll be able to add another to the list.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:51 AM
Feb 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Donald Trump's scorecard:
Muslim ban = failed. Yemen raid = failed. Approval ratings = failed.
Mexican wall = failed. Economic utopia = failed. Grade point average = 0.
[/center][/font][hr]

DK504

(3,847 posts)
5. How many lawsuits will be filed for all his bogus
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:51 AM
Feb 2017

bullshit "executive orders."

Agencies are now so short staffed as the appointees are puging their depts., they are following the
Dear Leaders" example and trying to wreck this country as quickly as they can.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
6. They haven't really cared about the democratic process for quite some time ...
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:10 PM
Feb 2017

... at least going back 40 years or so. Until now, they at least paid lip-service to it, and tried to restrain themselves as much as possible, so as to not attract attention to their agenda. Now, they don't even care about appearances; they will push their agenda through until there is nothing left of our system of governance. They won't stop until we are a feudal society - which is their endgame. Also, until now, the Democrats have gone along to get along, which was the exact wrong approach to take. Now, some liberal groups are "shocked" and now filing appeals to courts that have mostly been filled by the reactionaries. Some courts still care about the democratic process, but many are filled with Trumpists, who would like nothing better than to see us revert back to feudalism.

This is exactly what the Bolsheviks did. They slowly filled the soviets (workers' councils) with members of their party, slowly filled all agencies and congresses and the like. Lenin, who was as anti-Soviet as it gets - he believed in one party rule, his party, of course), yelled "All power to the soviets!" during the revolution - hoping to gain favor with the workers' parties. Once he was closer to ruling, he shutdown any soviets that didn't bend to the Bolshevik program (see Petrograd Soviet and the Kronsdat Rebellion). Once, enough power was concentrated, the already poisoned revolution was dead. And the society that the Bolsheviks desired was achieved, which benefited the party, not the people.

Same thing is happening now. History repeats itself.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
7. We now clearly know who is...
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:17 PM
Feb 2017

the most ignorant imbecile in Washington DC.

Tragically, in a position formerly known as 'Leader of the Free World.'

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
19. Irony is that he spent much of his business career suing people rather than paying them their due.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:59 PM
Feb 2017

melm00se

(4,991 posts)
10. what drew executive orders
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:45 PM
Feb 2017

like this are obsolete regulations that no one ever gets rid of but because they still exist they can (and are enforced) or are used as precedent for another action.

Just as one example:

In 1949 regulations were implemented to form (and I kid you not) the "National Raisin Reserve" (under the control of the Dept of Agriculture) in order to regulate post WWII raisin prices.

The "raisin reserve" was not alone, versions also existed for almonds, walnuts, tart cherries as well as other products. All but the the raisin reserve were disbanded over the years but the raisin reserve stood alone...defiant...and proud.

It finally took a case argued in front of and ruling by the Supreme Court (8-1 decision) to eliminate a regulation that had long outlived its usefulness.

Is it that wrong to have these agencies to go thru their regulations and get rid of ones that are obsolete?

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
12. Nothing.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:53 PM
Feb 2017

Just do an audit and get rid of regulations that are obsolete.

Don't bog down new, necessary, regulations with some arbitrary requirement that other regulations have to be removed before you can enact new ones.

It's difficult enough to get new regulations through Congress without adding an additional step of trying to dig out some other random, unrelated regulations you can get rid of, and increase the scope of the matters than can be debated by tagging them on to whatever you are trying to accomplish.

What this will actually accomplish is to slow down or kill any new regulation, some of which is vitally necessary (e.g. FDA regulations).

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
14. Resist and Persist!
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 02:15 PM
Feb 2017

Absolutely. It was the dumbest thing that even Trump has said thus far. But, of course, the morning isn't over yet!!!

Glad to see backlash against his craziness.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
15. He's going off on twitter before the ruling comes down. Such a long
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 02:35 PM
Feb 2017

Time to wait. I hope they take another day.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
17. Now he's getting sued for meaningless EO that will never go into effect
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 02:40 PM
Feb 2017

Kind of like suing for palimony because you got a valentine

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
18. Good. Challenge the fuck out of this pot-belly despot!
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 02:44 PM
Feb 2017

They are trying to win throw an endless barrage of shit at us and we need to throw it right back every time.

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