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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:24 AM Feb 2017

McConnell: 'There's No Evidence' That Voter Fraud Changed Election Outcome

Source: Talking Points Memo



By CAITLIN MACNEAL Published FEBRUARY 15, 2017, 7:57 AM EDT

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) on Tuesday shot down President Donald Trump's repeated claims that millions of "illegal" votes cost him the popular vote in the 2016 election.

"There’s no evidence that enough votes were stolen to change the outcome of the election," McConnell said in an interview taped Tuesday for MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

However, McConnell told Joe Scarborough that he believes voter fraud is an issue, even if it is not widespread.

"I do want to point out, Joe, though, the democratic myth that voter fraud is a fiction is not true. We have had a series of significant cases in Kentucky over the years. There is voter fraud in the country. So the notion that something, for example, like photo I.D. at the polls is an effort to suppress the vote is patently absurd," he said. "But there’s no evidence that there was significant enough voter fraud to affect the outcome of the presidential election."

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mcconnell-no-evidence-widespread-voter-fraud

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McConnell: 'There's No Evidence' That Voter Fraud Changed Election Outcome (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
But how about election fraud? Marthe48 Feb 2017 #1
SURE.......... Zoonart Feb 2017 #2
Because voter fraud never happened Botany Feb 2017 #3
There is also no evidence that McConnell works in the best interest of the US world wide wally Feb 2017 #4
Look on the bright side: he said "democratic" and not "democrat." mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #5
Hmmm...now let's talk voter suppression, shall we? Pacifist Patriot Feb 2017 #6
Gerrymandered districts Scarsdale Feb 2017 #7
McConnell bdamomma Feb 2017 #8
seems like almost all of those charged with voter fraud in 2016 NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #9
"Texas woman convicted of voter fraud says she voted Republican" mpcamb Feb 2017 #27
There was a vocal Trump Republican in Iowa NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #28
Rampant, ain't it? mpcamb Feb 2017 #29
As soon as he said 'MYTH" SCVDem Feb 2017 #10
What is he saying? Did he just say ... bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #11
The fact that he expresses an opinion on the issue raises red flags to me randr Feb 2017 #12
And why didn't Dem leadership see fit to investigate that when we had the reigns? JudyM Feb 2017 #13
They did go after the Voter ID laws BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #20
The integrity and hackability of voting equipment is a different issue than voting rights, and while JudyM Feb 2017 #21
The problem is that pesky 10th Amendment BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #22
There needs to be a minimum federal standard for integrity of voting and tabulating equipment. JudyM Feb 2017 #23
I whole-heartedly agree BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #24
I wholeheartedly agree. JudyM Feb 2017 #25
Cool. BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #26
Bingo crazylikafox Feb 2017 #16
Thats probably part of it atleast but another part could be is that they themselves have been cstanleytech Feb 2017 #18
Right, turdle. Not 'voter fraud' but republican-russian fraud. Achilleaze Feb 2017 #14
Hey Turtle ....................... turbinetree Feb 2017 #15
McConnell is complicit in the entire Russia cover-up. Give no fucks what he says about fraud. nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #17
RepubliCONS know if anyone starts digging.. coco22 Feb 2017 #19
yes, but there is evidence RUSSIA FRAUD did Skittles Feb 2017 #30

Marthe48

(16,950 posts)
1. But how about election fraud?
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:29 AM
Feb 2017

I want to know what the Russians, Comey and the rest of the anti-Americans did to put a traitor in the W.H.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
3. Because voter fraud never happened
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:30 AM
Feb 2017

But election fraud did happen and McConnell was told about it and he
(McConnell) hid it. And how did Mitch know that after the election he
would have a new person for the SCOTUS?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
7. Gerrymandered districts
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:37 AM
Feb 2017

This is what gets the gop into office time after time. In Wisconsin, there are plans in the works to abolish that gop scheme. It should be nationwide. How many in tRump's inner circle are registered to vote in more than one state? Several. McConnell will not go along with investigating tRump, his wife got a cushy job in the administration. These crooks all stick together, screwing regular people.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
8. McConnell
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:40 AM
Feb 2017

is a treasonous bastard, am I wrong to say that???

So the notion that something, for example, like photo I.D. at the polls is an effort to suppress the vote is patently absurd," he said. "But there’s no evidence that there was significant enough voter fraud to affect the outcome of the presidential election."

to suppress the vote patently absurd????? WTF he is delusional too.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. seems like almost all of those charged with voter fraud in 2016
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:43 AM
Feb 2017

were either Republicans or independents.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
27. "Texas woman convicted of voter fraud says she voted Republican"
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 04:32 PM
Feb 2017

That was the only case I've seen that went to court.
(Not surprised Mitch didn't bring up specifics)

bucolic_frolic

(43,158 posts)
11. What is he saying? Did he just say ...
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:47 AM
Feb 2017

stealing them didn't change the outcome?

Cryptic McConnell as usual.

randr

(12,412 posts)
12. The fact that he expresses an opinion on the issue raises red flags to me
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:54 AM
Feb 2017

Republics know they have had a national voter suppression program going for years and are terrified it will be exposed if an actual investigation of voting discrepancy ensues.

BumRushDaShow

(128,958 posts)
20. They did go after the Voter ID laws
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:04 PM
Feb 2017

that were bubbling up in the states (including mine in PA) but then we lost the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014. And then the Supreme Court threw out Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act in 2013, which killed the list of egregious states that were enumerated in Section 5 of that Act, that required special DOJ reviews if they made changes to their voting laws.

Really not much could be done when Democrats in many of our states sit out off-year elections.

JudyM

(29,237 posts)
21. The integrity and hackability of voting equipment is a different issue than voting rights, and while
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:08 PM
Feb 2017

absolutely critical to a fair vote, wasn't addressed. It was a huge strategic error, as was failing to look at how to fix the gerrymandering situation.

BumRushDaShow

(128,958 posts)
22. The problem is that pesky 10th Amendment
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:49 PM
Feb 2017

The machines (and selection of the type and manufacturer) are controlled by the states and as long as Democrats sit out off-year elections, notably those related to their state legislature, rather than actively engaging in what their state governments are doing, then this will continue to happen. Gerrymandering happened when not enough Democrats voted in their state elections in a series of census years - most recently and notably 2010.

It took much effort to even get the motor voter (HAVA) passed at the federal level for national implementation to at least allow voting when you got a driver's license nationwide, so it would require many court tests against "states rights" trying to "standardize" the actual means for voting, where you have a range of methods that include paper and ballot boxes (manual mark and manual count or computer-read/counted), mail-in only, through to touch-membrane (like mine) and full-on (often faulty) touchscreens.

BumRushDaShow

(128,958 posts)
24. I whole-heartedly agree
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:55 PM
Feb 2017

but it will take some effort to bulldoze through all the hurdles of doing that when you have thousands of rural unincorporated areas that will claim they have "no money" to comply with any "technology standard" associated with voting when they don't use tech, etc. In fact, the costs to have localities comply as part of a phase-in of the standard tech needs to happen too.

IMHO, it should ALL be mail-in, sequestered, hand-counted, verified, and reported. Barring that, some of our states should try pilot-testing "state-wide" standards and then perhaps come up with a committee that writes the legislation for federal use based off those tests and include the recommended standards or range of standards (like ALEC does for their wacko RW laws) so it is ready to revise as needed, debate, and vote on at the federal level.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
18. Thats probably part of it atleast but another part could be is that they themselves have been
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:39 AM
Feb 2017

actively engaged in something criminal and the higher ups like McConnell are worried that whatever it is might be exposed.
Personally I lean towards it being election fraud on their part and its probably going to be where alot of us here on the DU have thought which is with the computers.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
14. Right, turdle. Not 'voter fraud' but republican-russian fraud.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:17 AM
Feb 2017

And the all republican traitors to America should be investigated, prosecuted, and punished.



turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
15. Hey Turtle .......................
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:17 AM
Feb 2017

have you read the book:

RatF**ked by David Daley, The true story behind the secret plan to steal America's democracy

It pretty much tells how democracy has been gerrymandered by lines to look like goofy kicking donald duck, and how your party has basically stolen the right of the masses to vote

Well guess what, FU and the horse you road in on

And to add to this mix, have you not been listening to what has been going on (why are you in office---why) since the servers of the DNC and possibly your party of fascists had been hacked by a state actor to change the election, and the best part is when you had a your crony in the FBI and his agents come out 11 days before a vote to say sh** that wasn't true about e-mails. And now your party has had a "guy" a former three star at the NSA doing exactly what..........................there turtle, some espionage, making deals with the same state actor------------



 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
17. McConnell is complicit in the entire Russia cover-up. Give no fucks what he says about fraud. nt
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:39 AM
Feb 2017

coco22

(1,258 posts)
19. RepubliCONS know if anyone starts digging..
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:44 AM
Feb 2017

They will find that many in the republiCON party,have lost there seats many times over. Everyone cannot be that stupid to keep voting for them while their lives are getting worse,even with gerrymandering.

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