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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:19 PM Mar 2017

ISIS dumped bodies in a desert sinkhole. It may be years before we know the full scale ...

Source: The Washington Post


ISIS dumped bodies in a desert sinkhole. It may be years before we know the full scale of the killing.

By Loveday Morris and Mustafa Salim March 2 at 12:54 PM

ATHBAH, Iraq — The horror stories about the Islamic State’s mass killings at a cavernous hole in the desert near Mosul became legendary over the years.

Soon after the group took control of the Iraqi city more than 2½ years ago, the 100-foot-wide sinkhole five miles southwest of the airport became a site for executions. Some victims were made to line up at the edge of the hole and were shot before being kicked inside, while others were tossed in alive, residents said. Sometimes bodies were just trucked in for dumping.

Residents of Mosul whispered about the deaths at the sinkhole, or “khasfa” as it is called. But with communications limited and locals too fearful to speak out publicly, it was only after Iraqi forces retook the area last month as they closed in on the city that the scale of the killing at the site began to emerge. Based on anecdotal evidence, Iraqi officials say thousands may have perished there in recent years. It may be years more, though, before the mass grave gives up its secrets.

No one knows the depth of the hole under the water at the bottom. The militants have now filled it over and booby-trapped it with explosives, making excavation particularly complex.


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ISIS dumped bodies in a desert sinkhole. It may be years before we know the full scale ... (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
This is not any kind of religion. yallerdawg Mar 2017 #1
It is beyond me why Islamic peoples living in the region have not risen up against this nightmare. randr Mar 2017 #2
It's easy to oppose this in principle metalbot Mar 2017 #3
That's a historic question that can never really be answered. haele Mar 2017 #4
Same reason so many "collaborated" leftynyc Mar 2017 #5
My Family lived in occupied Europe during WWII Turbineguy Mar 2017 #6

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
1. This is not any kind of religion.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:30 PM
Mar 2017

This is terrorism and jack-booted, gun-toting, gangster/organized criminal thuggery.

randr

(12,409 posts)
2. It is beyond me why Islamic peoples living in the region have not risen up against this nightmare.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:21 PM
Mar 2017

How can they let this shit happen in their own neighborhood?

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
3. It's easy to oppose this in principle
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:59 PM
Mar 2017

It's a lot harder to oppose it when opposing it involves sending your son into another country to storm a machine gun nest.

As to why the people actually living there didn't oppose it? Because they didn't want to end up in the hole.

haele

(12,640 posts)
4. That's a historic question that can never really be answered.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 04:14 PM
Mar 2017

Intimidation is the opposite side of bravery. Whether they have guns, and all the experienced fighting-aged residents have already been decimated and what's left are those incapable of mounting a serious resistance; or, Daesh has abused and manipulated cultural morality so that more traditional/conservative believers are stuck between their hierarchal belief practices or being declared an apostate or outsider for not following tradition; or, maybe the locals are just afraid of standing out and being the first to be picked off and exposing family members to more violence by a pack of terrorists - all those can be reasons that people let shit like that happen.

Historically, when looking at infestations of violence in neighborhoods, all it takes is one violent individual to terrorize and intimidate up to fifty average people (including the elderly and children).
Just like all it takes is one successful thief to create an apparent uptick in property crime in an area, one gang member in the family to make the public and police assume the rest of the family and surrounding neighborhood belongs to that gang and one serial rapist to make a large cluster of victims.

Haele

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
5. Same reason so many "collaborated"
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 04:50 PM
Mar 2017

with the nazis. Fear. Germans didn't take them down - it took two superpowers to do it.

Turbineguy

(37,291 posts)
6. My Family lived in occupied Europe during WWII
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 05:34 PM
Mar 2017

They still had their living to get. Basically, the goal was to have no contact with the occupying forces. You stayed away from where they went. You kept a low profile. If there was something happening ahead, you changed direction and went around the block. You made sure you looked like nobody.

I remember my Grandfather giving a carload of German officers wrong directions to a nearby town. That was risky.

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