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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 02:34 PM Mar 2017

Texas GOP wants to let doctors lie to women about pregnancies to trick them out of having abortions

Source: RawStory


ERIN CORBETT
03 MAR 2017 AT 12:59 ET

The Texas GOP introduced yet another anti-abortion bill that would give doctors the right to lie to their patients about their pregnancies. Texas Senate Bill 25, also known as the “wrongful births bill” has made its way to the Texas Senate floor, and would prevent lawsuits against doctors if a baby is born with a disability.

In reality, the bill allows doctors to withhold information about the risk of a disability from the parents, particularly in cases when the doctor thinks the individual might decide to have an abortion if provided with the information.

As of Feb. 1, 2017, the Guttmacher Institute reports 434 sexual and reproductive health provisions that have been introduced at the state-level. Four anti-abortion bills have been enacted. In Texas specifically, at least 6 abortion restrictions were in effect as of Jan. 1, including a requirement to receive and view an ultrasound before being allowed an abortion.

Margaret Johnson of the Texas League of Women Voters commented on the Texas bill. “This bill places a (sic) unreasonable restriction on the constitutional right of a woman to make an informed decision about whether or not to have an abortion,” Johnson said while testifying in opposition to the bill. “SB 25 is a not-so-subtle way to give medical personnel the opportunity to impose religious beliefs on women.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/texas-gop-wants-to-let-doctors-lie-to-women-about-pregnancies-to-trick-them-out-of-having-abortions/

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Texas GOP wants to let doctors lie to women about pregnancies to trick them out of having abortions (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
This is unconstitutional and would not stand. lark Mar 2017 #1
GET OUT OF OUR UTERUS GOP luvMIdog Mar 2017 #2
Oh, those Texas Repukes - just a bunch of harmless guys packman Mar 2017 #3
Why does "family values", so-called Christian louis-t Mar 2017 #4
malpratice anyone? n/t MissMillie Mar 2017 #5
Surely this will not pass, or will be held unconstitutional, or physicians will decide it is against northoftheborder Mar 2017 #6
Maybe their next bright idea is to decline treatment for women past child-bearing years. Judi Lynn Mar 2017 #7
The proposed bill isn't limited to doctors onenote Mar 2017 #8
It really seems as if solara Mar 2017 #9
where is the AMA on this Skittles Mar 2017 #10
I keep typing and deleting, typing and deleting, typing and deleting Solly Mack Mar 2017 #11
So then, I think that if a doctor withholds information about a disabled fetus, then the smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #12
Want to talk "wrongful birth" in Texas? How about odious Lt. Governor Dan Patrick? Paladin Mar 2017 #13
This will go over well jrandom421 Mar 2017 #14
Someone needs to put Cruz and Cornyun on record and ask if they support the bill bronxiteforever Mar 2017 #15
if only I could have my toilet drain in Texas NoMoreRepugs Mar 2017 #16
So, IF a Dr. knowingly LIES by omission, then he can not be sued. OMG! What the hell is the riversedge Mar 2017 #17
This might protect the doctor from a civil suit but it wont protect them from losing their cstanleytech Mar 2017 #18
Believe it or not littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #19

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
6. Surely this will not pass, or will be held unconstitutional, or physicians will decide it is against
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 03:30 PM
Mar 2017

...their code of ethics. However if it does, a woman would be in her rights to ask her physician what his religious beliefs were about women's rights.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
7. Maybe their next bright idea is to decline treatment for women past child-bearing years.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 03:37 PM
Mar 2017

Maybe make divorce automatic once a woman is discovered to be past child-bearing, so the husband can get busy, with their blessings, making more little white "Christian" GOP cretins.

The sky's the limit, now, apparently.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
8. The proposed bill isn't limited to doctors
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 03:47 PM
Mar 2017

It provides that no one can bring a civil action against any third person for damages based on a claim that but for that third person's act or omission, an abortion would have taken place.

Thus, for example, if someone kidnaps a woman and holds her hostage so that she cannot obtain an abortion and only releases her after she's given birth, that person could be tried and punished for kidnapping, but the woman could not sue the perpetrator for damages arising from his acts that prevented her from getting an abortion.

Here's the text:

A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to eliminating the wrongful birth cause of action.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Title 4, Civil Practice and Remedies Code, is
amended by adding Chapter 71A to read as follows:
CHAPTER 71A. PROHIBITED CAUSES OF ACTION
Sec. 71A.001. WRONGFUL BIRTH. A cause of action may not
arise, and damages may not be awarded, on behalf of any person,
based on the claim that but for the act or omission of another, a
person would not have been permitted to have been born alive but
would have been aborted.
SECTION 2. The change in law made by this Act applies only
to a cause of action that accrues on or after the effective date of
this Act. A cause of action that accrues before the effective date
of this Act is governed by the law applicable to the cause of action
immediately before the effective date of this Act, and that law is
continued in effect for that purpose.
SECTION 3. This Act takes effect September 1, 2017.

solara

(3,836 posts)
9. It really seems as if
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 03:51 PM
Mar 2017

the Vichy GOP believes that lies are definitely the only way to go. It is clear they use lies much more often than the truth. How is that working out for them, I wonder.

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Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
11. I keep typing and deleting, typing and deleting, typing and deleting
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 05:37 PM
Mar 2017

because I know if I post what I am thinking in my rage about what this bill is proposing, I would scare the shit out some people. And it is a rage that never lessens in regard to all things anti-woman/anti-choice.

For some people, to know that women share the same intense anger and have the same thoughts (which some might find a wee bit vengeful - but most women would see as justice), it can be unsettling.

So I need to remove myself from this thread now. But I did want to let it be known that I did read the article. To let other women know I stand with them.







 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. So then, I think that if a doctor withholds information about a disabled fetus, then the
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 07:19 PM
Mar 2017

doctor should be legally liable for the cost of raising and caring for that child for the rest of it's natural life. It's only fair.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
13. Want to talk "wrongful birth" in Texas? How about odious Lt. Governor Dan Patrick?
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:10 PM
Mar 2017

And no, scumbag Patrick wasn't actually born in Texas---but he's inflicted himself on my poor state for way too long; call it "wrongful existence" in his case. I have no doubt his filthy prints are all over this ludicrous, hurtful bill.

jrandom421

(1,003 posts)
14. This will go over well
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:30 PM
Mar 2017

Until the first malpractice lawsuit, and a doctor tries using this as part of his defense. He'll get convicted so quickly and the plaintiff will be awarded multimillion dollars in damages, especially if she includes the Texas legislator as a party to the suit.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
15. Someone needs to put Cruz and Cornyun on record and ask if they support the bill
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:36 PM
Mar 2017

Too often these clowns have state legs that propose outrageous unpopular bills and they get away with not being forced to take a stand on what their state counterparts propose. They should be asked if they would support a federal proposal like it.

Make them own their evil.

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
17. So, IF a Dr. knowingly LIES by omission, then he can not be sued. OMG! What the hell is the
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 07:37 AM
Mar 2017

matter with these lawmakers!! And where is the professional organizations on this? Damn, this is stupid! And horrible!

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
18. This might protect the doctor from a civil suit but it wont protect them from losing their
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 08:06 AM
Mar 2017

license to practice medicine in the state.

littlemissmartypants

(22,655 posts)
19. Believe it or not
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 08:10 AM
Mar 2017

There are real doctor dementeds that could give a flying flip about that Do No Harm thingy.

Bodily Autonomy For All Genders and the ERA ratified in my lifetime, please!!

Thanks for this DonViejo. ♡

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