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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:13 PM Mar 2017

Schumer Blasts 'Breathtakingly Irresponsible' O'Care Replacement Bill

Source: Talking Points Memo



By CAITLIN MACNEAL Published MARCH 7, 2017, 11:07 AM EDT

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) on Tuesday morning slammed House Republicans' draft legislation to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, arguing that the bill would reduce coverage and raise the costs of health care for Americans.

"After seven years of talking about the same thing over and over again, you'd think the Republicans would have been able to come up with a better plan than this. This plan is a mess," Schumer began in a floor speech. "Trumpcare will make health insurance in America measurably worse in just about every way and leave more Americans uninsured. It does, however, greatly benefit the very wealthy and special interests."

The senator said that Republicans' plan will "cost more and you'll get less." In terms of care for women, Schumer said the proposal would "send us back to the dark ages," noting that it nixes Obamacare's requirement that insurers don't charge women more for coverage.

Schumer lamented that the tax credits the House GOP plan offers will be smaller than Obamacare's subsidies, and that the proposal "removes an investment tax and a surcharge on the wealthiest Americans."

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/schumer-aca-replacement-floor-speech

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Schumer Blasts 'Breathtakingly Irresponsible' O'Care Replacement Bill (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
Tax credits are sort of like mail-in rebates, right? forgotmylogin Mar 2017 #1
Tax credits come right off the final individual tax bill DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #3
Okay, that's better... forgotmylogin Mar 2017 #5
Yes, at least initially, then they can use last year's credit DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #7
Still not optimal because it requires an initial investment. forgotmylogin Mar 2017 #10
But in this bill, younger people only get $2000/yr tax credit while 60+ get $4000/yr wishstar Mar 2017 #14
So if your income is so low that you don't pay any PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #15
Yes DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #18
"Costs more, get less" DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #2
And they should call it a "mail in rebate" for healthcare. forgotmylogin Mar 2017 #11
It's Obamacare 0.5 SharonAnn Mar 2017 #20
I want to see them get to 60 votes. DK504 Mar 2017 #4
They built the whole scam into reconciliation bills Cosmocat Mar 2017 #16
Smoke & Mirrors Health Insurance elmac Mar 2017 #6
Investigate Russia. Press for Liar Sessions to resign. ffr Mar 2017 #8
Repuke Motto sheshe2 Mar 2017 #9
Mandates for bathroom use, but not for health coverage or polluters bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #12
America 2017 Cosmocat Mar 2017 #17
Why not find people happy about repeal who are ill ? rickford66 Mar 2017 #13
So, their "base" has been clamoring to increase rates for older Americans by 60%??? pat_k Mar 2017 #19

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
1. Tax credits are sort of like mail-in rebates, right?
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:17 PM
Mar 2017

You have to pay in full up front, and then get a write off on your taxes. Which may not be possible due to some people's financial situations. And the actual money may not get back to you if it's a line-item write-off.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
3. Tax credits come right off the final individual tax bill
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:22 PM
Mar 2017

If, for ex, you owe $1,000 and the tax credit is $5,000, you'd get a refund of $4,000. If you owe 0 income tax, you'd get the full tax credit of $5,000.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
10. Still not optimal because it requires an initial investment.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:36 PM
Mar 2017

My gf lives hand-to-mouth off her paycheck, and there's no way she could afford health care in this manner, even if she were getting paid back for it in the future.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
14. But in this bill, younger people only get $2000/yr tax credit while 60+ get $4000/yr
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:20 PM
Mar 2017

because insurance companies would be allowed to charge higher premiums based on age and of course these credits are only for people buying into individual plans on their own-

"Plan members in their 20s would get tax credits in the $2,000 range. Those in their 30s would get roughly $2,500 and people in their 40s would get roughly $3,000. People in their 50s would receive tax credits of about $3,500 and those over 60 would get roughly $4,000.

MOST OF THE PROPOSAL COMES AS ADVERTISED: IT CALLS FOR ENDING INCOME-BASED FEDERAL SUBSIDIES TO HELP PURCHASE MARKETPLACE COVERAGE AND WOULD WIPE OUT ALL TAXES THAT HELPED PAY FOR THE SUBSIDIES."



Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article136815443.html#storylink=cpy

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
15. So if your income is so low that you don't pay any
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 03:16 PM
Mar 2017

federal income tax, do you get a check for whatever your tax credit is supposed to be?

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
11. And they should call it a "mail in rebate" for healthcare.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:39 PM
Mar 2017

Many mail-in rebates are a scam. They make you wait, then often just don't honor them because many people forget about them, then make the consumer jump through hoops contacting them to actually get the rebate.

Cosmocat

(14,559 posts)
16. They built the whole scam into reconciliation bills
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 03:24 PM
Mar 2017

they only need 50 votes in the senate ...

That said, as long as EVERY D does the right thing, its going to be tough, Lawrence O'Donnell said last night four R senators won't vote for it, IF that is the case, we might duck this bullshit.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
8. Investigate Russia. Press for Liar Sessions to resign.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:31 PM
Mar 2017

We'll protest in the streets and burn up GOP fax/phone lines regarding ACA in the meantime.

bucolic_frolic

(43,057 posts)
12. Mandates for bathroom use, but not for health coverage or polluters
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:42 PM
Mar 2017

Does the GOP make any sense?

Get the government off our backs but in our pants?

rickford66

(5,521 posts)
13. Why not find people happy about repeal who are ill ?
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:03 PM
Mar 2017

They must have some real compelling reasons to support the loss of real medical insurance and many of us wish to hear them. Of course this must include sane people who understand that Obamacare and ACA are the same thing.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
19. So, their "base" has been clamoring to increase rates for older Americans by 60%???
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:47 AM
Mar 2017

What the hell are all these opponents we hear so much about against anyway?

The only part of ACA I have ever heard anyone specifically object to is the "mandate."

As far as I can tell, the only "base" they are making happy with this bill is one that's made up of insurance company executives.


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