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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:09 PM Mar 2017

Spicer Says Trump Is Still Under Audit, Won't Say Whether He'll Release Taxes

Source: Talking Points Memo


By ESME CRIBB PublishedMARCH 7, 2017, 3:06 PM EDT

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said on Tuesday that President Donald Trump is still under audit and wouldn't say whether Trump will release his taxes for the current year.

"Will the President commit to releasing his tax returns for this year and is he still under audit for his past returns?" NBC News' Hallie Jackson asked Spicer during his daily briefing.

"My understanding is he's still under audit and I'll follow up on the question," Spicer replied.



Throughout his presidential campaign, Trump claimed that he could not release his tax returns because of an ongoing audit.



Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/spicer-says-trump-under-audit-tax-returns



Spicer On Health Care Bill: 'We're Not Jamming This Down Anybody's Throat'

By MATT SHUHAM Published MARCH 7, 2017, 2:46 PM EDT

White House press secretary Sean Spicer emphasized that House Republicans' proposal to replace Obamacare would follow "regular order" and that “we are not jamming this down anybody’s throat.”

“This is the bill. It’s right here. It's on the website. We are going through regular order,” Spicer said, pointing to a stack of paper to his right. “If you go to the House of Representatives' website, Speaker Paul Ryan's website, it's listed. Everybody can read it, and it's going to go through what they call regular order.”

“We are not jamming this down anybody's throat,” he continued. “It is going to go through a committee process. All parties involved, all representatives in the House will be able to have input into it. I think that's the way to conduct this process, is to do it to allow people to watch the process happen in the committees, allow members of Congress to have their input in it to make amendments, to see that we get the best bill that achieves the goal for the American people.”

“Regular order” is a nebulous term, but Republicans in recent years have contrasted it to the process which led to the Affordable Care Act.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/spicer-health-care-regular-order

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Spicer Says Trump Is Still Under Audit, Won't Say Whether He'll Release Taxes (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
UPDATE: "Audit won't be completed until next century" dalton99a Mar 2017 #1
Remember Donnie Jr. said our simple minds couldn't understand his tax return underpants Mar 2017 #3
Yep. Because he is the greatest businessman ever lived. dalton99a Mar 2017 #9
Nobody believes that "under audit" BS Sean. drm604 Mar 2017 #2
Or years prior to that PatSeg Mar 2017 #32
I'm waiting for one reporter to say, "This 'under audit' claim has been LuckyLib Mar 2017 #35
At this point without proof, he is an outright liar. randr Mar 2017 #4
Sombody's gotta know someone at the IRS C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #5
Yeah for the IRS. Hope they are looking into NCjack Mar 2017 #6
Yes, this needs to be audited and prosecuted for sure. ananda Mar 2017 #8
Spider Spicer is a LIAR Angry Dragon Mar 2017 #7
Let me translate "under audit" for you... llmart Mar 2017 #10
Keeping those returns under lock & key is part of coverup of Trump-Russia Scandal. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #11
FOIA Request for Audit Letter?? Louis1895 Mar 2017 #12
have NO DOUBT he's under audit for the massive bankruptcies AND his charities, that Foundation he Sunlei Mar 2017 #15
That is the question I always want to ask. mainstreetonce Mar 2017 #23
He's under a decade? long audit by IRS like that Nevada whorehouse IRS ran/audited for 15? years. Sunlei Mar 2017 #13
They can stretch this out until 2018! Crash2Parties Mar 2017 #14
not for people who claim 60? million in bankruptcies. No limits for the 'big special IRS catches' Sunlei Mar 2017 #16
An *audit* can take up to 28 months. And even that is just a guideline. Crash2Parties Mar 2017 #17
who cares, he won't show his tax forms because they're fraudulent for many decades & wayyyy Sunlei Mar 2017 #18
Oh, I agree. I'm just saying that this will likely be their excuse for years to come. Crash2Parties Mar 2017 #24
excuses and crying wolf. He and fellow Republicans are trying to distract from current crimes Sunlei Mar 2017 #25
We need a BS meter, here we go turbinetree Mar 2017 #19
I like this one! Initech Mar 2017 #33
Good choice turbinetree Mar 2017 #37
I am a little surprised that they haven't even tried to release a fake tax return. briv1016 Mar 2017 #20
That's easy. Which years are under audit? Release the other ones. CanonRay Mar 2017 #21
The part Spicer is leaving out jmowreader Mar 2017 #22
part Spicer leaves out,trump watches him speak & then spicer has to get yelled at by the cray-cray Sunlei Mar 2017 #26
Are all his returns from years past also under audit? DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #27
donnie already said ain't gonna happen. said we "litigated" that in the election, nobody cares. unblock Mar 2017 #28
they need to be hacked MFM008 Mar 2017 #29
"Republicans in recent years have contrasted it to the process which led to the Affordable Care Act. BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #30
The IRS has said IT DOESN'T MATTER! mreilly Mar 2017 #31
Yes, why don't the talking heads pound him on that point...each and every time! LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #34
2016 current returns NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #36

underpants

(182,803 posts)
3. Remember Donnie Jr. said our simple minds couldn't understand his tax return
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:16 PM
Mar 2017

Last edited Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:26 PM - Edit history (1)

It's 12-15,000 pages. No one alive, no tax professional even, can comprehend its size complications and magnitude.

dalton99a

(81,486 posts)
9. Yep. Because he is the greatest businessman ever lived.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:22 PM
Mar 2017

It's so huge it's mind-boggling and mortals can't touch it

drm604

(16,230 posts)
2. Nobody believes that "under audit" BS Sean.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:13 PM
Mar 2017

Even if it's true, why would that prevent the release of the returns?

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
32. Or years prior to that
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 07:02 PM
Mar 2017

We should be able to see at least ten years of tax returns considering all his foreign business deals. One year would not be sufficient.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
35. I'm waiting for one reporter to say, "This 'under audit' claim has been
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 09:33 PM
Mar 2017

refuted for months. The IRS indicates this is not an issue. What is the point of repeating such a falsehood?" (Actually, I would use 'lie' but we can't expect reporters to go that far -- yet.)

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
5. Sombody's gotta know someone at the IRS
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:17 PM
Mar 2017

who can at least confirm whether Trump is telling the truth.
This whole mess is cover in so much Trump-created bullshit - he just has no credibility.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
6. Yeah for the IRS. Hope they are looking into
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:19 PM
Mar 2017

Trump's Baku hotel deal with Ziya Mammadov, who fronts money for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

ananda

(28,860 posts)
8. Yes, this needs to be audited and prosecuted for sure.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:22 PM
Mar 2017

I saw Maddow's show from last night, and it was very clear
that Trump broke the law in that deal over Trump Tower in
Azerbaijan.

She said he abandoned the deal a month after the election,
but still pocketed the money he got.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
7. Spider Spicer is a LIAR
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:20 PM
Mar 2017

Trump for 2015 taxes were due by October 15, 2016
no way in hell would the IRS had his taxes in audit by the end of the year ..... unless he has lied so many times that they just put him on automatic audit

llmart

(15,539 posts)
10. Let me translate "under audit" for you...
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:23 PM
Mar 2017

It means he's paid someone (or in his case, promised to pay someone) to clean them up before he releases them.

Louis1895

(768 posts)
12. FOIA Request for Audit Letter??
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:27 PM
Mar 2017

I wonder if a reporter (or willing private citizen) could use the Freedom of Information Act to request a copy of the IRS letter sent to Trump informing him that he is under audit. To my knowledge no one has shown that evidence. No need at this time to see the taxes, just prove he is under audit. He is no longer a private citizen so he would not have that protection.

Any reporters or lawyers here to comment?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
15. have NO DOUBT he's under audit for the massive bankruptcies AND his charities, that Foundation he
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:34 PM
Mar 2017

flipped to the sons name to run.

IRS probably has to assign several million dollars in our Federal employees just to keep up with his audits.




mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
23. That is the question I always want to ask.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:23 PM
Mar 2017

His taxes might be private,but an audit letter has no personal info.

He should be required to show the letter.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. He's under a decade? long audit by IRS like that Nevada whorehouse IRS ran/audited for 15? years.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:27 PM
Mar 2017
REPUBLICANS?? why did you back this TAX DODGER/conman? you never even vetted him or did a basic background check? why? Sunlei 2/2017

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
14. They can stretch this out until 2018!
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:32 PM
Mar 2017
IRS auditors are instructed to close audits within 28 months of the date you filed your tax return or the date it was due, whichever is later.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. not for people who claim 60? million in bankruptcies. No limits for the 'big special IRS catches'
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:38 PM
Mar 2017

heck his frienemies can turn him in and claim millions in rewards from IRS.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
17. An *audit* can take up to 28 months. And even that is just a guideline.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:40 PM
Mar 2017

So he can keep claiming it for 2, maybe 3 years and still claim plausibility as well. Fox news & Breitbart will believe him.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
18. who cares, he won't show his tax forms because they're fraudulent for many decades & wayyyy
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:46 PM
Mar 2017

to easy for people/the press/other experts to expose the fraud when they have the forms to look at.

IMHO.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
20. I am a little surprised that they haven't even tried to release a fake tax return.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:49 PM
Mar 2017

One that shows Donald to be a billionaire that pays a 40% tax rate and gives loads to charity. And of course no Russian business dealings.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
22. The part Spicer is leaving out
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:15 PM
Mar 2017

The very rich (and also Donald Trump, whose riches rise and fall with the vagaries of the real estate market) are under permanent IRS audit - by their own personal IRS officers, who spend years familiarizing themselves with the unique nature of their assigned auditees.

If Trump is going to release his returns only when the audit is finished, expect to see them ten years after his death and burial in a prison cemetery somewhere.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
26. part Spicer leaves out,trump watches him speak & then spicer has to get yelled at by the cray-cray
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:46 PM
Mar 2017

(R)man. I'm positive Spicer knows firsthand trumps an asshole.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
27. Are all his returns from years past also under audit?
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:46 PM
Mar 2017

The IRS is one amazing organization to have ALL of Trump's tax returns from every year under audit if he can't release any from 2015 or 2014 or 2013 or...

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
30. "Republicans in recent years have contrasted it to the process which led to the Affordable Care Act.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 06:12 PM
Mar 2017

WTF?

Obama hosted the first "Healthcare Summit" on March 5, 2009

- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/05/AR2009030501850.html

- http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/06/us/politics/06web-health.html

And from that point on, through other summits, multiple congressional committee meetings and legislative markups, dozens of CBO scores, tons of amendments, hours upon hours of debate, and votes on the resultant legislation, culminating in the signing of the final piece into law on March 23, 2010 - you can't get more "regular order" than that (over a year to get from point A to point B).

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
31. The IRS has said IT DOESN'T MATTER!
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 06:13 PM
Mar 2017

You can still release your taxes even if you're being audited! And while most normal people would say "Why is Trump being audited unless he's shady?" of course this is their way of crying victim as always; e.g. successfully brilliant businessman Trump is being picked on by the incompetent crooked government (and it was Obama's idea).

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
34. Yes, why don't the talking heads pound him on that point...each and every time!
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:05 PM
Mar 2017

And on the IRS. Are THEY under some restriction about saying whether they are or aren't? I can understand maybe if they were auditing, to not have to admit it. But if they are not, then shouldn't they at least be able to confirm THAT?

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
36. 2016 current returns
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:01 PM
Mar 2017

Current one can be shown now before submitting to the IRS. The fucker wont. Like someone upthread posted, if & when it will probally be fake.

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