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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 01:54 AM Mar 2017

The poor just dont want health care: Republican congressman faces backlash over comments

Source: MSN/Washington Post

A first-term congressman who spent three decades as a physician — and is now part of a group of Republican doctors who have a major role in replacing Obamacare — is facing backlash after saying that poor people “just don’t want health care and aren’t going to take care of themselves.”

Rep. Roger Marshall, (R-Kan.), a member of the GOP Doctors Caucus, said comments he made to Stat News were not meant to suggest that poor people take health care for granted. The comments were published in a story last week about his burgeoning role in the fight to replace the Affordable Care Act.

“Just like Jesus said, ‘The poor will always be with us,’ ” Marshall said in response to a question about Medicaid, which expanded under Obamacare to more than 30 states. “There is a group of people that just don’t want health care and aren’t going to take care of themselves.”

He added that “morally, spiritually, socially,” the poor, including the homeless, “just don’t want health care.”

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-poor-%E2%80%98just-don%E2%80%99t-want-health-care%E2%80%99-republican-congressman-faces-backlash-over-comments/ar-AAo4yzX?li=BBnb7Kz



Yup, Democrats lost control of Congress because unlike Republicans, we did not show that we were concerned with needs of working class and middle class voters. If only we could emulate the concern shown by Republicans.

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The poor just dont want health care: Republican congressman faces backlash over comments (Original Post) TomCADem Mar 2017 OP
GOP -- Poor just don't deserve help with our too expensive healthcare. Hoyt Mar 2017 #1
"the GOP Doctors Caucus" (shudder to think there are actually doctors like this) progree Mar 2017 #2
Their patron saint is Josef Mengele. dalton99a Mar 2017 #4
Unfortunately, there are PLENTY of doctors like this. Paladin Mar 2017 #18
Carson has brain damage IMO wordpix Mar 2017 #21
He's definitely got problems. And now he's OUR problem. (nt) Paladin Mar 2017 #22
Very True... jrthin Mar 2017 #23
one icy cold irisblue Mar 2017 #3
I know a bunch of doctors, and they fall into 2 large types cemaphonic Mar 2017 #6
He was probably pissed off at the hospital because some black/brown/woman surgeon was making $800K progree Mar 2017 #8
No, it wasn't anything like that. cemaphonic Mar 2017 #14
What a cold hearted piece of bovine excrement Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #5
In the earliest versions of the New Testament, Jesus always asked the sick for their insurance card progree Mar 2017 #9
"I know you're blind, and that's really shitty.... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #10
"and better check that I'm in your plan's network" - JC progree Mar 2017 #12
Lmao... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #13
Boy, ppl like this congressman live in alternate universe...has he ever walk the streets of a poor.. iluvtennis Mar 2017 #7
Walking talking anti-Christs are a dime a dozen in the Republican Party. Guilded Lilly Mar 2017 #11
I am the rare person who is very healthy. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #15
Jesus actually says Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #16
Yep, that same passage came to my mind. paleotn Mar 2017 #17
Oh, you're reading from the old version. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2017 #27
Hard to say what's worse, this guy practicing medicine or writing legislation. tanyev Mar 2017 #19
You know what? We SHOULD take health care for granted. All of us. randome Mar 2017 #20
Most insensitive, stupid, and absurd thing ever said about "the poor" Stuart G Mar 2017 #24
I think he forgot the part about Jesus telling the rich man to give it all to the poor. hollowdweller Mar 2017 #25
well his bdamomma Mar 2017 #26
One of my facebook accounts was banned for giving satirical support for his comments xor Mar 2017 #28
He just got elected and comes from western Kansas and some of the poorest Bengus81 Mar 2017 #29

progree

(10,904 posts)
2. "the GOP Doctors Caucus" (shudder to think there are actually doctors like this)
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:00 AM
Mar 2017

It seems like an oxymoron, but much worse. Like a cruel joke. Or The Onion. Or The Borowitz Report.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
21. Carson has brain damage IMO
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 10:07 AM
Mar 2017

Why does he talk with his eyes closed all the time? Can barely get a sentence out? HUD is headed by a brain-damaged neurosurgeon, go figure.

jrthin

(4,835 posts)
23. Very True...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 10:39 AM
Mar 2017

On the night of the Russian selection, my husband's friend, a doctor, texted my husband to say that this was a good night for doctors. Needless to say, that relationship is fractured.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
6. I know a bunch of doctors, and they fall into 2 large types
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:27 AM
Mar 2017

1) Knew that they wanted to be a doctor from early childhood to heal and cure people.

2) Extremely goal-oriented people that are drawn to the profession for some combination of high pay, high status and intellectual challenge.

A healthy chunk of #2 take narcissism to Trumpian levels. My wife worked with a surgeon that was drawing a +$750,000 salary, who was constantly trying to pad his expense account with things like personal smartphones and crap for his kids. And he wasn't even trying to be sneaky about it or commit fraud or anything. He just didn't understand why it wasn't acceptable to treat the hospital budget like his piggy bank.

progree

(10,904 posts)
8. He was probably pissed off at the hospital because some black/brown/woman surgeon was making $800K
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:48 AM
Mar 2017

[font color = blue]>> My wife worked with a surgeon that was drawing a +$750,000 salary, who was constantly trying to pad his expense account ... He just didn't understand why it wasn't acceptable to treat the hospital budget like his piggy bank.[/font]

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
14. No, it wasn't anything like that.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:27 AM
Mar 2017

He just had the mindset that the hospital existed to serve his needs, instead of the needs of its patients. And that having the hospital spend what was to him pocket change, on something that would make him happy was a win-win as far as he was concerned.

Eventually, he was poached by one of the other big hospitals in town, and was really irritated that instead of being begged to stay and a big salary bump, he got a nice going-away party and a "we know you'll do well in your new position."

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
5. What a cold hearted piece of bovine excrement
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:24 AM
Mar 2017

This physician would counter the Congressman's comment with this: "Sir, please show me in the scripture, the moment, any moment, when Jesus Christ refused to offer help and healing to those he encountered?? When did Jesus ever ask payment for his services??" This type of mindset amongst physicians disgusts me. People who are poor don't have health insurance because they don't want it, it's because they can't afford it! Given a choice between the needs of daily life and insurance they will choose sustenance every day of the week. People in this country are crying out for real healthcare. To dismiss and demean them in this way is cold hearted and, frankly, anti-Christian. But I'm sure his prosperity gospel didn't teach him anything about the real teachings of Christ!

progree

(10,904 posts)
9. In the earliest versions of the New Testament, Jesus always asked the sick for their insurance card
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:57 AM
Mar 2017


[font color = blue]>>"Sir, please show me in the scripture, the moment, any moment, when Jesus Christ refused to offer help and healing to those he encountered?? When did Jesus ever ask payment for his services??"<<[/font]

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
10. "I know you're blind, and that's really shitty....
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:04 AM
Mar 2017

But imma need to see your insurance card and have prior approval before I can lay hands on you. Are you sure you couldn't have healed yourself through hard work and pulling yourself up by your boot straps??? Clearly you didn't want my healing or you would have found a way to afford my healing graces"

progree

(10,904 posts)
12. "and better check that I'm in your plan's network" - JC
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:09 AM
Mar 2017

And if He's assisted by any of His disciples, better check that they are in the plan's network too. Nothing worse than thinking things are OK because Jesus is in your plan's network, and then getting a big fat bill from one of his out-of-network disciples.

iluvtennis

(19,852 posts)
7. Boy, ppl like this congressman live in alternate universe...has he ever walk the streets of a poor..
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:47 AM
Mar 2017

neighborhood and talked to the ppl ...I don't think so. People are ppl - poor, in between, rich - and all have basic needs with food, shelter, water, medical needs. GAH

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
15. I am the rare person who is very healthy.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:41 AM
Mar 2017

I almost don't need health care/insurance.

But it makes me angry beyond rational comment that anyone would ever want to deny someone health care. It is my own amazing health that makes me understand that others, not gifted with such health, deserve every possible help. I'm fortunate. Others are not. Some people have smoked and have consequences because of that. Others have crappy genetics. And so on. We are here to help each other.

I don't understand what part of we are here to help each other is difficult to understand.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
16. Jesus actually says
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:52 AM
Mar 2017

Which side would the Republicons end up on according to the criterion below? What is their christian destination?

Matthew 25:31-46

When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’

41 Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, [font size = "+1"]‘Truly, I say to you, [font size = "+2"]as you did not do it to one of the least of these,[/font] you did not do it to me.’[/font] 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
27. Oh, you're reading from the old version.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:29 PM
Mar 2017

Here's the new version:



I do not know who came up with this originally.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. You know what? We SHOULD take health care for granted. All of us.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 09:48 AM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
26. well his
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 11:58 AM
Mar 2017

first term as a congressman may be his last term. What an ignorant response, and he was a Dr.??? these people have no compassion none so ever.

xor

(1,204 posts)
28. One of my facebook accounts was banned for giving satirical support for his comments
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:12 PM
Mar 2017

I'm not sure if it was banned because someone took them literally and thought I was just totally evil, or if it was reported by someone who took issues with me mocking this twisted piece of human waste.

*The account was technically disabled because it was a fake account, but it was reported for one of the reasons.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
29. He just got elected and comes from western Kansas and some of the poorest
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:17 PM
Mar 2017

County's in the State. Let's see how happy they are when he shit cans their AFFORDABLE health care for this garbage plan their trying to ram through.

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