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NeoConsSuck

(2,544 posts)
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 03:54 PM Mar 2017

MCCAIN ON RUSSIA: 'There's a lot more shoes to drop from this centipede'

Source: Business Insider

Sen. John McCain predicted Sunday that the public would learn more about the relationship between President Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and the Russian government.

In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union," the Arizona Republican said there were "a lot of things about our relations with Russia that trouble me a lot."

He cited the removal of a provision in the 2016 Republican party platform that supported sending lethal weapons to Ukraine, a move that was "not the will of most Republicans."

"There's a lot of aspects of this whole relationship with Russia and Vladimir Putin that requires further scrutiny. And so far, I don't think the American people have gotten all the answers," McCain said. "I think there's a lot more shoes to drop from this centipede."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-trump-ties-russia-2017-3

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MCCAIN ON RUSSIA: 'There's a lot more shoes to drop from this centipede' (Original Post) NeoConsSuck Mar 2017 OP
McCain: All show no go 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2017 #1
I'm not sure. John McCain REALLY REALLY REALLY HATES Russia Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #14
He should put up or shut up. SharonClark Mar 2017 #31
In order to hear about "a lot more shoes" to drop democrank Mar 2017 #2
He keeps saying things like this but does nothing to substantiate them. liberal N proud Mar 2017 #3
Agree...never any action iluvtennis Mar 2017 #15
He keeps saying things like this but does nothing to substantiate them. LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #27
Read past the past heading liberal N proud Mar 2017 #30
Duh. dalton99a Mar 2017 #4
Lip service is all this is INdemo Mar 2017 #5
How many more????? How much more of this shit do we have to put up with? Initech Mar 2017 #6
Trump fans (i.e. almost all Republicans) don't care oberliner Mar 2017 #7
It's just a matter of time JurisGal Mar 2017 #12
Welcome to DU, JurisGal! not fooled Mar 2017 #20
Welcome to DU, JurisGal. He can try. mahina Mar 2017 #23
Welcome to DU, JurisGal! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2017 #25
welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2017 #33
I've seen people parroting that line of thinking. xor Mar 2017 #24
Get a move on bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #8
Paul Manafort and Co nearly suckered McCain into being their pawn before his 2008 run wishstar Mar 2017 #9
Well McCain would know about worms.... LakeArenal Mar 2017 #10
Didn't comey have a meeting with a group of senators 5X Mar 2017 #11
Quit ur talking and do sumpthin benld74 Mar 2017 #13
John McCain could save this country, TBD. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #16
A lot of talk wysi Mar 2017 #17
McCain has been there for a while, knows the president is thickens thieves with Putin, Thinkingabout Mar 2017 #18
McCain and Graham are outspoken and see the danger of Trump as president. LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #29
At this rate it won't matter. Trump, Uday, Qusay & the rest will be long gone with the treasury. PSPS Mar 2017 #19
McCain and Graham: The King and Queen of Lip Service. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #21
So many shoes have already dropped Senator McCain! Nevermypresident Mar 2017 #22
One by one, they'll isolate Dolt45 from all the agents Warpy Mar 2017 #26
Being a republican must be very confusing, especially now. ffr Mar 2017 #28
Yet you voted to confirm Tillerson dbackjon Mar 2017 #32
 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
14. I'm not sure. John McCain REALLY REALLY REALLY HATES Russia
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 05:32 PM
Mar 2017

I'm pretty sure Vladimir Putin murdered Boris Nemtsov to whom McCain was friends with, it's not just lingering Cold War sentiments.

I think that if we see Russia ramping up aggressions and the admistration responding tepidly, then we'll see a full flip where he's ready to fall on his sword and finish his career with a bang.
Right now republicans are met with a dilemma where they believe that drudging up the admistration's Russian ties will lose them seats, to which they believe democrats to be a bigger threat ideologically. They're stuck in a "no harm no foul" situation as they advance their shitty legislation that (some, not most) believe is good for America (most just receive money from big oil and the NRA).

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
3. He keeps saying things like this but does nothing to substantiate them.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:04 PM
Mar 2017

I agree that there is much more to be known, but unless assholes like McCain get off their ass and do something his talk is worthless.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
27. He keeps saying things like this but does nothing to substantiate them.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 03:05 AM
Mar 2017

No lies detected liberal N proud

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
30. Read past the past heading
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:13 AM
Mar 2017

I agree that there is much more to be known, but unless assholes like McCain get off their ass and do something his talk is worthless.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
5. Lip service is all this is
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:18 PM
Mar 2017

McCain is obviously a Republican first...he will not be the one to bring Trump down and for a while I had him pegged as the Goldwater of 2016 to lead that group to the White House,but no McCain is Party before Country.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
6. How many more????? How much more of this shit do we have to put up with?
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:22 PM
Mar 2017

If even one shoe dropped on Hillary's side, the GOP would have already filed the impeachment charges yesterday. There have been a hundred shoes dropping in the Trump - Russia debacle and nothing is being done. Not a god damn thing. The fucking assholes are more concerned about party power than they are about protecting the people, and they've already screwed us over a hundred times. Get shit done, McCain!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Trump fans (i.e. almost all Republicans) don't care
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:29 PM
Mar 2017

In fact, Hannity is running with the idea that the CIA hacked the DNC and made it look the Russians did it. I am not kidding.

JurisGal

(4 posts)
12. It's just a matter of time
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:53 PM
Mar 2017

Before this becomes , was "Obama" in on Trump's collusion or why he didn't stop it. Anything to shift the focus. ( Hi Everyone:Long time lurker, for years actually. Looked to comment election night, but...)

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
9. Paul Manafort and Co nearly suckered McCain into being their pawn before his 2008 run
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:33 PM
Mar 2017

Odd that McCain in CNN interview this morning said Roger Stone should be questioned about the Guccifer/Wikileaks contacts, but then McCain talked about Roger Stone being connected to Ukrainian pro- Russian Yanukovich, when it was actually Paul Manafort, (Stones' former partner and partner of of Rick Davis-McCain campaign advisor) who was so entrenched with Yanukovich as this Slate article talks about:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/04/paul_manafort_isn_t_a_gop_retread_he_s_made_a_career_of_reinventing_tyrants.html

"Manafort and Davis didn’t just snooker McCain into trumpeting their client’s cause; they endangered him politically, by arranging a series of meetings with Deripaska, who the U.S. had barred from entering the country because of his ties to organized crime. In 2006, they steered McCain to attend a dinner with the oligarch at a chalet near Davos, where Deripaska speechified for the 40 or so guests. (The Washington Post reported that the oligarch sent Davis and Manafort a thank-you note for arranging to see the senator in “such an intimate setting.”) Seven months later, Manafort and Davis took McCain to celebrate his 70th birthday with Deripaska on a yacht moored in the Adriatic.

Not everyone within the McCain camp felt comfortable with this relationship. One group of aides pushed hard for McCain to fire Rick Davis for sullying the senator with the firm’s muck. McCain intended to do just that. The senator had backed the cause of Ukrainian democracy and he couldn’t stomach his top aide’s firm working to undermine it. What’s more, aides had come to McCain with the rumor that Deripaska had purchased an apartment in Trump Tower for Davis and Manafort. But in the moment, McCain lost his nerve, as his aides have recounted the episode. Davis supplied a tear-filled soliloquy that saved his job. “Rick’s plea somehow worked—and that was the root of the divisions that tore apart the campaign,” one of McCain’s top advisers told me.

It was just unsubstantiated hearsay that Deripaska had paid for Manafort’s flat. Yet McCain aides were right to suspect the relationship. Manafort and Davis were hungry for the oligarch’s cash." Lengthy article gives great details of Manafort's shady dealings both with
American, NY and Trump deals, and overseas deals favored by Vladimir Putin

5X

(3,972 posts)
11. Didn't comey have a meeting with a group of senators
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:34 PM
Mar 2017

that was classified? Did he deliberately cover russia and trump so that
the info would than be classified, and none of them can talk about it.

wysi

(1,512 posts)
17. A lot of talk
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 05:51 PM
Mar 2017

No fucking action. Actually do something or peddle your concern somewhere else, Senator.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
18. McCain has been there for a while, knows the president is thickens thieves with Putin,
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 05:55 PM
Mar 2017

Nothing good can come out of this relationship. McCain and Graham are outspoken and see the danger of Trump as president.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
29. McCain and Graham are outspoken and see the danger of Trump as president.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 03:16 AM
Mar 2017

But all they do is talk and little else.


Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
22. So many shoes have already dropped Senator McCain!
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 11:08 PM
Mar 2017

What we, the public, already know is enough circumstantial evidence to get a guilty conviction in a civil if not criminal court of law.

I am 100% sure that many in Congress (especially McCain) have seen the Flynn transcripts as well as others between Trump et al and Russians during the campaign and transition. So...if there is a plan being formulated to get rid of Trump via 25 or impeachment by Republican(s) such as McCain, how long are they going to wait?!? Our country is in an unprecedented state of peril on so many levels...National Security, human rights, empty positions within many of our agencies, etc.etc.etc. Tax returns,conflicts of interest, and proof of money laundering alone are enough, FGS.

So color me cynical about McCain and Graham. They and other Rethugs know the dirt and have known it for a while.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
26. One by one, they'll isolate Dolt45 from all the agents
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 03:00 AM
Mar 2017

keeping close contact with both Putin and the Russian mob.

Once he's isolated, we can watch him twist slowly in the wind.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
28. Being a republican must be very confusing, especially now.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 03:08 AM
Mar 2017

Chaos, incompetence, illegal, immoral, traitorous behavior abounds, with only a few strong enough to stand in the face of all that.



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