O'Malley tests 2020 waters with Iowa poll

[DonViejo]

Source: Politico



By GABRIEL DEBENEDETTI 03/15/17 06:00 AM EDT

Donald Trump is only in his second month in the White House, but already one Democrat is polling his party's Iowa caucus-goers ahead of a possible 2020 run for the presidency.

The leadership PAC of former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley commissioned a Public Policy Polling survey of the first-in-the-nation caucus state earlier this month, according to a copy of the results obtained by POLITICO.

The poll, which shows O’Malley at 18 percent of Democratic caucus-goers in a field of nine potential candidates if the contest were held today, also asked the Iowans about New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker; former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julián Castro; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Kamala Harris of California and Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota; Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg; and Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz. “Not sure” got 32 percent of the vote.

O’Malley — who ran against Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders for the 2016 nomination before dropping out on caucus night after earning less than 1 percent of the vote — was joined at the top of the poll by Booker, who was at 17 percent. Klobuchar, who represents a neighboring state and who's been a frequent visitor to Iowa over the years, got 11 percent. All other candidates were under 10 percent.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/omalley-iowa-2020-236063

[Renew Deal]

1. Nope

[delisen]

2. Is he running on his Baltimore record or his exposed breasts.

Sure hope he keeps his shirt on next time.

[femmocrat]

3. Not Warren?

Wonder why they left her out?

[Recursion]

6. She'll be 70 in 2020. I doubt she'll run (nt)

[liberalnarb]

10. Bernie was 74. He may not have won the nomination but he sure came close.

Also can we stop with the ageism?

[DavidDvorkin]

14. Bernie didn't come close at all

He lost in a landslide.

I'm 73, and I think 74 is too old. So is 70.

[liberalnarb]

25. I don't want to get in trouble for arguing the primaries

but with the energy Bernie had, his age wouldn't have been a problem, at least not in his first term.

[FSogol]

15. Ageism aside, she's stated over and over she wouldn't run.

[StevieM]

34. Warren said she wouldn't run in 2016. She has never said that she won't run in 2020.

I would be shocked if she didn't run for president in 2020.

She is the one candidate who I am almost certain is running.

[StevieM]

33. I would be shocked if she doesn't run. (eom)

[Jose Garcia]

39. She's four years younger than Trump

[Recursion]

40. I'll also be surprised if Trump runs in 2020 (nt)

[StevieM]

41. I understand your speculation but apparently he is already planning his re-election campaign.

http://www.fox25boston.com/news/trump-already-planning-2020-reelection-bid-raises-millions-so-far/489937276

[Recursion]

43. That's so he can use the Hatch Act against government employees (nt)

[Jose Garcia]

38. The poll was commissioned to create the appearance that O'Malley is the frontrunner

Including Warren in the poll would not have furthered that goal.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. I wouldn't mind seeing him try again.

I liked him; he was my #2 choice during the primaries. Certainly there will be others in the mix, but I don't think O'Malley wore out his welcome last time.

[elleng]

9. Considering this poll he surely did not wear out his welcome,

but for some DUers, apparently.

[Hortensis]

35. Yes, I liked O'Malley's record as governor in Maryland.

The Republicans had lots of sensible and worthwhile O'Malley accomplishments to repeal and roll back.

[pangaia]

5. 2020? He actually thinks there will be an election an 2020??

[Vinca]

7. Nice man, but doesn't have the "it" factor.

This is a country made up of 50% people who know what's going on in the world and 50% who'll vote for a Kardashian for POTUS. Sadly, we need some of the latter to win so we have to have a candidate with that special something in addition to being intelligent.

[Skittles]

13. yes, people love purty people with purty words

[CitizenZero]

8. O'Malley Is Soft

Too nice a guy. We need a street fighter who will knock Trump out. My money is on New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo. That guy knows how to counter-punch. He is pretty ruthless and he will fight hard. A tough New Yorker and a strong Democrat.

[FSogol]

17. Ham and Cheese!

[geek tragedy]

18. Cuomo is Hillary except for the good parts nt

[liberalnarb]

11. We need a firebrand in 2020. Someone who isn't afraid to tear tRump and his allies limb from limb.

Or rip Pence to shreds, considering there is a lot of speculation that the clown won't finish out his first term. I also think we need a Democrat who will be good at really riling up the working class and letting them know that they're on their side. Theres no question that Hillary would have been better for the working class, but I don't think she made that clear enough.

[Valhallakey]

12. He is not right for the times

Agree with CitizenZero, we need someone that can fight and has some charisma. O'Malley seemed like a good guy during the primary but he is not the FDR we need right now.

[FSogol]

16. O'Malley is the closest thing to FDR that the party has. Did you not see his comprehensive plans

during the campaign? Since you obviously missed them, they can be found here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12813600

[Valhallakey]

32. That was not my point

I did pay attention and agree he had great plans, more ambitious than Hillary. I liked all the Democrats plans, however I was agreeing with the previous poster we need someone with charisma, fire and longing to lead and fight, welcoming their hatred so to speak.

[StevieM]

42. Welcome to DU. I am sure that we will have a lot of terrific candidates in 2020. (eom)

[Justice]

19. I hesitate responding because I will kick this to the top of the pile but

I don't want to hear about 2020. Our world is crashing around us and Martin is interested in 4 years from now rather than pick up an oar and row.

Can we have a forum on 2020 so people can post there.

[FSogol]

24. O'Malley been travelling the country on weekends helping win Democratic local races.

Google: Monica Kurth in the Iowa House Race.

[geek tragedy]

20. Big news in this poll is who's at the top with O'Malley

O'Malley fizzled against two deeply flawed candidates--Bernie and Hillary. Would be very, very good at the job of president, but doesn't have the mojo to win the election.

The poll, which shows O’Malley at 18 percent of Democratic caucus-goers in a field of nine potential candidates if the contest were held today, also asked the Iowans about New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker; former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julián Castro; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Kamala Harris of California and Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota; Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg; and Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz. “Not sure” got 32 percent of the vote.

O’Malley — who ran against Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders for the 2016 nomination before dropping out on caucus night after earning less than 1 percent of the vote — was joined at the top of the poll by Booker, who was at 17 percent. Klobuchar, who represents a neighboring state and who's been a frequent visitor to Iowa over the years, got 11 percent. All other candidates were under 10 percent.

Booker is running, and he's going to be hard to stop.

[FSogol]

21. No one is thinking about 2020. It was a name recognition poll. n/t

[geek tragedy]

22. Nor should they be thinking about it. nt

[FSogol]

23. Some on DU seem to love these threads. They can't wait to start bashing Democratic candidates.

[GWC58]

37. We should be concentrating on

2018! Not 2020.

[Tarheel_Dem]

27. Hmmmmm...Let's see....How do I say this?

[StevieM]

28. They didn't even ask about Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. This was not a good poll.

You can't just leave out the two frontrunners.

[sarcasmo]

29. No

[femmedem]

30. Some of the other people mentioned, like Kamala Harris, have very little name rec now

but could become superstars in 2018.

If I were him I'd find these poll numbers discouraging, considering people already know him better than they know almost all of the other candidates.

Like the other people commenting, I think he isn't quite charismatic enough. Unfortunately, I think he'd be a strong president but a weak candidate.

[RussBLib]

31. give it up Martin

he doesn't have "it"

[Chitown Kev]

36. No...I like O'Malley (and voted for him) but...

usually a Democrat that wins the presidency and unseats a Republican is someone that...well, comes out of the blue, for the most part...and is usually "young."

Truman and LBJ were the exceptions to that as far back as I can remember and even in those cases, they were the sitting president of a President that died in office. (Well, FDR was fairly well known if only because he was a VP nominee...at the age of 38!)