Supreme Court Justice Alito: Gays treat conservative Christians 'as bigots'

[DonViejo]

Source: Associated Press



By DAVID PORTER, Associated Press · Thursday, March 16, 2017

MADISON, N.J. (AP) — The U.S. is entering a period when its commitment to religious liberty is being tested, Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito told an audience Wednesday at an event sponsored by a Catholic lawyers’ organization.

Alito used his own words from his dissent in the Supreme Court’s landmark same-sex marriage case, telling the gathering he had predicted opposition to the decision would be used to “vilify those who disagree, and treat them as bigots.”

“We are seeing this is coming to pass,” he said, then mentioned Bob Dylan’s famous song lyric, “You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.”

“A wind is picking up that is hostile to those with traditional moral beliefs,” Alito said.

Read more: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/03/supreme-court-justice-alito-gays-treat-conservative-christians-bigots/

[sinkingfeeling]

1. Maybe he should look up the definition of 'bigot'.

[LiberalLovinLug]

53. and "moral beliefs"

[bitterross]

2. Well, DUH! That's because they ARE!

Clearly, Mr. "YOU LIE" fails to see the logic in calling a Duck a Duck when it walks and talks like one.

[hibbing]

3. Uh..what does your pope have to say on this issue? n/t

[Cryptoad]

4. GOP: Largest Organized Group of Bigots and Hate Mongers in the USA

dhuh,,,,

[LS_Editor]

5. The shoe fits.

[LonePirate]

6. Their behavior matches the textbook description of bigotry. It's an apt description.

[mnhtnbb]

7. Yeah, Alito would like to bring back the Inquisition. Fu*k him and his "Christian" buddies.

The Constitution of the United States guarantees us not only freedom of religion but freedom from religion.
You don't get to impose your antiquated notions of "traditional moral beliefs" on everyone based on bullshit
written by ignorant males thousands of years ago with an agenda to codify their own power and hierarchy.

[TeamPooka]

28. Alito would be the first one a real Inquisition rounded up.

[RKP5637]

8. So, like, WTF are they supposed to be called. They hate everything! It's a collection of haters! n/t

[jpak]

9. Because they are?

[secondwind]

10. Oh, for crying out loud... how about all they want is to be allowed to be who they ARE, Samuel? is

that so complicated?

[Scalded Nun]

11. The nastiest person on the court speaks!

“A wind is picking up that is hostile to those with traditional moral beliefs,” Alito said.

A truer statement was never spoken. NOW, let us take a historical look at 'traditional moral beliefs':

-Blacks were only good to serve as slaves
-Women should never own property
-Women should never vote
-No problem using children to work
-No problem burning people alive because your religion said to

The list could go on.

Alito is another in a long line of bigoted poster children standing on the wrong side of human history.

[smirkymonkey]

33. This!

I am so sick of these whiners and their persecution complex!

[GulfCoast66]

60. You missed a big one

Italians and Catholics are inferior. Because that was the company line for hundreds of years. I guess Alito, since that particular bigotry no longer holds sway conveniently forgets his own people's history.

[NRaleighLiberal]

12. wow - we hear from the "we are right, everyone else is wrong" contingent!

If the shoe fits, "so-called justice alito!

[NurseJackie]

13. He's signaling his views for the next "Right to Discriminate" case that reaches the USSC.

A court filled with Trump appointed justices will overturn marriage equality or, they'll give enough "religious freedom" leeway to individuals so that marriage equality is meaningless if someone wants it to be meaningless.

Our country is so screwed.




FUCK YOU SUSAN SARANDON!! #fuckyoususansarandon

[rurallib]

14. I love these people who think morality includes hate and bigotry

to my way of thinking and in the very traditional religion I was brought up in (Roman Catholic - same as Alito), hate and bigotry were not part of the morality I was taught.

I believe what he meant to say is "traditional hate and bigotry"

[Ohioblue22]

15. yea and?

[TygrBright]

16. Oh! OH!!! I know a way to make them stop, Justice Alito! And it's real easy!!!

REAL easy!

If conservative Christians stop acting and talking like bigots, I can pretty much guarantee you that eventually even the scariest gay person will stop treating them as bigots.

It's TRUE!

TRY IT!!!

helpfully,
Bright

[irisblue]

27. [phone]

[niyad]

17. bigot -bi-god

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[Coventina]

18. Coventina: Conservative Christians treat LGBT as sub-human, moral reprobates, and regularly

discriminate if not actually physically attack them.

So, yeah, they are bigots.

[muntrv]

19. That's because they are bigots.

[sakabatou]

20. Well, Alito, if the shoe fits...

[vlyons]

21. well they are bigots

close-minded intolerant bigots. Got to call a thing a thing.

[turbinetree]

22. Do you understand the pre-amble of the Constitution there zippy Alito

because apparently your bias towards human beings is unfathomable, your a bigot, in fact you should be IMPEACHED.

Since you don't know the difference between a building and a human when you ruled on Citizen United, that's how smart you are .

No wonder this country is going down the tubes.

Lets take for instance there zippy the U.S. Supreme Court and the Indigenous People and Standing Rock in current events on religion since you like to invoke religion, in fact you just had a U.S. judge screw over the Cheyenne River Sioux, what say you Alito


http://standingrock.org/history/

http://www.nativeamericancaucus.org/content/tribal-sovereignty-history-and-law

[asiliveandbreathe]

23. Live and let live..equal protection under the law..the SCOTUS decision

same sex marriage - is equal protection under the law - with all due respect sir..unlike the respect from conservative so-called Christians...you have your belief system - equal protection is a belief system as well..live and let live - many in the LGBTQ community are Christian as well...

My question, where is the empirical evidence - he had predicted opposition to the decision would be used to “vilify those who disagree, and treat them as bigots.” You want to talk about "bigots" - we can have that discussion...

So Alito decides to launch that balloon....well, I say - nobody does mud like Republicans.

[Dawson Leery]

24. "Traditional Christians" are by their nature bigots.

They seek to treat the "others" as second class citizens.

[Chicago1980]

25. If the klan hat fits...

[YOHABLO]

26. Not all Christians are bigots. Some manage get beyond their antiquated doctrine.

[Politicub]

29. Anti-gay bigotry is immoral by definition

It has no place in a civilized society.

[onecaliberal]

30. They and YOU are biggots you steaming pile of maggot shit.

[Liberalagogo]

31. Alito:

[MineralMan]

32. Uh, that's because, with regard to LBTBQ folks, they ARE bigots.

Duh...

[DK504]

34. Seems some democrats need to remind Alito the only reason he got in

was because those big bad men made his wife cry. He was about to go down in flames and wifey poo starts wah-wahing and boom, he's voted in.

So when I have lost jobs and promotions because the white boys can't handle the big bad gay woman, yeah, that's a fucking bigot Alito.

[Dawson Leery]

38. Sammy the Bull will never understand why his church

is dying the free world.

[Freethinker65]

35. The question is not if they are bigots (they are), it is how should such bigots be treated

Should the Christian conservative bigots be mocked and shamed but tolerated to some extent, or should their bigotry be enshrined with certain legal protections? I say mocked and shamed but tolerated for being the bigots that they are as long as their beliefs do not infringe upon us non-bigots.
Alito's argument that if one is against bigotry they are themselves bigots is disingenuous.

[bucolic_frolic]

36. Goes without saying

his comments are unnecessary, tautological, redundant

and I don't see what he's trying to promote here

'traditional moral beliefs'? Oh, the world is immutable, fixed, rigid, cast in stone for all time

That's the way those who rule stay on top

[Panich52]

37. Act like a bigot, get called a bigot

The RW radical "Christians" who vilify LGBT, as well as Alito, have a narrow, and bigoted, idea of what constitutes moral behavior.

[Ilsa]

39. He hasn't learned anything from his buddy Scalia's

Fatal hate-attack, has he?

[yellowcanine]

40. "traditional moral beliefs" was used to justify everything from slavery to denying women the vote.

[nikibatts]

41. those same folks who hold traditional marriage above all else, also believe that a woman should

yield to her husband's every whim as well as stay in the kitchen and bedroom.

[paleotn]

42. To sum up Alito's BS.....

If thumpers aren't allowed to force their world view on the rest of us, the assholes perceive that as persecution. Believe whatever you want, I could care less, but when you try to impose your beliefs on me, I'll get worse than hostile, Sam.

[Lanius]

45. They make themselves out to be the victims when they get called out for victimizing others.

[Grins]

43. Pope says 'yer wrong. 'Strip Search'!

Pope Francis said Sunday that Christians owe apologies to gays and others who have been offended or exploited by the church, remarks that some Catholics hailed as a breakthrough in the church's tone toward homosexuality.

"I repeat what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says: that they must not be discriminated against, that they must be respected and accompanied pastorally...."

[Lanius]

44. LOL right-wing Christians want to discriminate but not be called bigots for discrimination.

They want to be intolerant yet not be called intolerant. What a bunch of special, mean little snowflakes.

[hamsterjill]

46. Separation of church and state

As a justice, Alito should stick to interpreting the constitution and law. His personal opinion should not enter into his legal interpretation.

And he should quit trying to act like he likes Bob Dylan.

[lunatica]

47. Isn't that an oxymoron?

[J_William_Ryan]

48. It's troubling that a Supreme Court justice is a liar.

That he's a conservative comes as no surprise.

Religious liberty is not "being tested," the notion is a ridiculous straw man fallacy.

[matt819]

49. Oh my goodness

Is it Christianity that makes you stupid? Is it right-wing nutjobism that makes you stupid? Or are you just plain stupid?

From Merriam-Webster: Definition of bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

From Merriam-Webster: Definition of bigot for children: a person who won't listen to anyone whose ideas or beliefs are different from his or her own; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial group) with hatred and intolerance

Seems pretty clear to me. What Alito has described is the actual definition of the word bigot. There's no moral component to it. Substitute any other group, and it's still bigotry: Black/N-word, Jew/Kike, Irish/Mick, Italian/Wop, Muslim/Raghead, Whites/White trash, etc., Native American/Redskin, Pakistani/Paki, Chinese/Chink. Just because someone identifies as LGBTQ, the intolerance by christians is still bigotry. And passing and approving laws in support of discrimination against LGBTQ are no different than laws supporting water fountains for "coloreds" or "No Irish or dogs allowed" or "No Jews need apply."

[JTFrog]

50. And yet it fits their feet like glass slippers.

Fuck off scumbag.

[Betty]

51. so when people are treated as third class citizens

their proper response should be to shut the fuck up and take whatever is dished out? I see. Glad to know that he doesn't see any use for the first amendment except when exercised by religious fanatics.

[milestogo]

52. Oh, the persecution of the self-righteous.

Let me lend them a kleenex.

[Binkie The Clown]

54. Breaking: People treat KKK members like bigots.

Well, I should hope so!

There's nothing wrong with calling out a bigot on their bigotry.

[muntrv]

55. "It is up to all of us to evangelize our fellow Americans about the issue of religious freedom.

Yeah, the freedom to discriminate against non-Catholics!

[unblock]

56. the legal problem is not in the "disagreement" -- the legal problem is in the unequal treatment.

if it were a mere "disagreement", then people who believe homosexuality is a sin would simply personally refrain from it, and leave others to make their own decision.

the legal problem is when people take it way too far, and start making others pay a price for their own personal views.

a bakery refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple is not part of this "disagreement".
a civil servant refusing to do their job for gay citizens is not part of this "disagreement".
hiring/firing/promoting based on sexual orientation is not part of this "disagreement".

these are all acts of offensive bigotry and should be illegal.

moreover, they have *nothing* to do with "traditional christianity" in the sense that jesus never said to treat gay people horribly.
he said things like "turn the other cheek" and "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
and when he admonished people to "love thy neighbor as thyself", he did not say "unless they be gay".

[Solly Mack]

57. What a crock of shit.

You hide behind religion to discriminate - which denies people their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and you deny people human dignity by denying them equality and justice, then you are a bigot.

And there is nothing moral about it.

[LakeArenal]

58. Bob Dylan should issue a cease and desist notice...

[elias7]

59. And conservative Christians treat "gays" how?