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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 01:33 PM Mar 2017

Democratic push to end gerrymandering, helmed by Eric Holder, to begin in Va.

Source: Washington Post

Eric H. Holder Jr., the former U.S. attorney general, is coming to Virginia to support Democrats trying to hold on to the governor’s mansion, the first stop for his new national campaign to reverse years of Democratic losses on the state level by reshaping legislative maps that have favored Republicans.

Holder will deliver the keynote address at the Democratic Party of Virginia’s annual Jefferson Jackson Dinner on June 17, four days after voters cast their ballots in the Democratic gubernatorial primary.

He will be speaking as chair of the National Democratic Redistricting Committee (NDRC), formed last year to undo what it calls partisan gerrymandering by Republicans, who took control of 26 state legislatures in the tea party wave of 2010. The group is coordinating with Democratic campaign groups to fund gubernatorial candidates who can veto new legislative maps after the 2020 Census as well as legal challenges to legislative maps and ballot initiatives to create independent redistricting commissions.

Former president Barack Obama has said supporting the group’s efforts would be one of his top priorities after leaving office.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/2017/03/16/aad8396e-0a69-11e7-b77c-0047d15a24e0_story.html

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Democratic push to end gerrymandering, helmed by Eric Holder, to begin in Va. (Original Post) SecularMotion Mar 2017 OP
How districts are mapped needs to be done by a nonpartisan committee sakabatou Mar 2017 #1
Nope. Tried that. Now, we fight in the courts. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #5
So... who would draw the districts? sakabatou Mar 2017 #13
The problem is that the Republicans have it the way they want it, so why change ? OnDoutside Mar 2017 #16
Easier to just double the number of Representatives many a good man Mar 2017 #2
interesting-- I hadn't heard that before but makes some sense Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #9
I've been promoting this for years. Scruffy1 Mar 2017 #17
An open-source algorithm exists but it has problems Jim Lane Mar 2017 #18
the obama "diaspora" will be an awesome thing to see. mopinko Mar 2017 #3
The most important single initiative democrats should be doing.. pbmus Mar 2017 #4
agreed Cosmocat Mar 2017 #6
Keeping people stupid is part of a larger plan by the oligarchs ... pbmus Mar 2017 #8
that and voting rights in general-- those two things are keeping many states like Texas out of play Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #10
And voting equipment integrity and conflict of interest rules for all branches of govt (I have 3 top JudyM Mar 2017 #15
Without the support of the Justice Dept., can we make progress in redder states? Qutzupalotl Mar 2017 #7
probably, because a lot of voting stuff is decided at the state level diane in sf Mar 2017 #11
But red states with red governors & statehouses will be resistant to change Qutzupalotl Mar 2017 #12
WuWu! President Obamas on this team of good guys. Sunlei Mar 2017 #14

many a good man

(5,997 posts)
2. Easier to just double the number of Representatives
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 02:05 PM
Mar 2017

That would minimize the effect of any gerrymandering efforts and make both the House and EC much more representative of the country.

Perfect solution would have NIST develop an open source algorithm that would redraw districts objectively.

Scruffy1

(3,257 posts)
17. I've been promoting this for years.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 08:20 PM
Mar 2017

All it takes is the Congress. The problem is I can't see Congress doing it. There other problem is that there is no way to change the Senate without an amendment.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
18. An open-source algorithm exists but it has problems
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 12:52 PM
Mar 2017

The "shortest splitline method" is explained here. It produces an objective result. The defect is that it excludes all other factors, including many widely considered to be reasonable, such as taking account of existing political boundaries. ("District 1 includes Counties A, B, and C, plus the western part of D." The algorithm doesn't recognize county lines or any other lines.) In addition, there would no room for drawing district lines so as to ensure representation for blacks, for example, who might find themselves in the minority in every district and thus seldom able to elect anyone from their community (given white voters' reluctance to vote for black candidates).

Cosmocat

(14,576 posts)
6. agreed
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 03:27 PM
Mar 2017

this and campaign financing are the two singular most damaging issues with our democracy - outside of rampant stupidity in the populace.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
8. Keeping people stupid is part of a larger plan by the oligarchs ...
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 03:37 PM
Mar 2017

Financing will always be an issue, on the table or under the table...but gerrymandering is the biggest issue right now.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
10. that and voting rights in general-- those two things are keeping many states like Texas out of play
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 03:51 PM
Mar 2017

for Dems

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
15. And voting equipment integrity and conflict of interest rules for all branches of govt (I have 3 top
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 06:30 PM
Mar 2017

ones)

Qutzupalotl

(14,340 posts)
7. Without the support of the Justice Dept., can we make progress in redder states?
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 03:35 PM
Mar 2017

Looking at Texas in particular, but also GA, NC, others...

Qutzupalotl

(14,340 posts)
12. But red states with red governors & statehouses will be resistant to change
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:09 PM
Mar 2017

without compulsion from the Justice Department.

Starting in mostly-blue Virginia is great, but change in places like Texas will likely be a long time coming.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. WuWu! President Obamas on this team of good guys.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 06:15 PM
Mar 2017
"Former president Barack Obama has said supporting the group’s efforts would be one of his top priorities after leaving office."
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