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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 11:43 AM Mar 2017

Trump lost 10 GOP health care votes after personally visiting Congress for "hard sell": NBC News

Source: Raw Story

The number of Republican lawmakers who said they were leaning against voting for the GOP-sponsored health care bill increased yesterday after President Donald Trump visited Capitol Hill to push the plan.

Prior to Trump’s Tuesday visit to Congress to make a “hard sell” to Republicans, NBC News counted 17 GOP lawmakers who either opposed or leaned strongly against the bill, which is also being championed by House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI).

Trump warned members of his party at the meeting to get on board or risk losing in 2018 midterms.

The president’s argument, however, did not prove persuasive.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/trump-lost-10-gop-health-care-votes-after-personally-visiting-congress-for-hard-sell-nbc-news/



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Trump lost 10 GOP health care votes after personally visiting Congress for "hard sell": NBC News (Original Post) Miles Archer Mar 2017 OP
UGH-- would YOU say yes to this clod? ailsagirl Mar 2017 #1
Trump is looking more floppy -physically, as the days pass IMHO riversedge Mar 2017 #12
To me, he seems rather dazed. But it's hard to say what's going on in that pea brain ailsagirl Mar 2017 #25
He is in bad need of a golden shower. (Expect him to take a trip to Russia soon.) nt NCjack Mar 2017 #32
Yuck!! ailsagirl Mar 2017 #34
I posted a Scarborough clip earlier today... Miles Archer Mar 2017 #14
Why cave to a traitor? get the red out Mar 2017 #2
What I want to know is how many, who specifically in the GOP who is against this bill Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #4
Probably many get the red out Mar 2017 #5
It's in the article...I was obeying the 4 paragraph rule Miles Archer Mar 2017 #11
Thank you. Is their beef that it still provides too much help for the poor? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #13
Yeah, unfortunately, most of what I have been reading indicates they feel it is "not enough." Miles Archer Mar 2017 #15
I hope their voters find out what they want and that it includes their Medicare and Soc Sec Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #19
I had little hope that Tea Party love Rep Steve Pearce duhneece Mar 2017 #22
It's bad when you have lost Louie Gohmert...... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #24
The two from Ohio are in the not enough catagory. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #33
Freedom caucus members are drray23 Mar 2017 #31
world greatest negotiator Thomas Hurt Mar 2017 #3
Damn Friend or Foe Mar 2017 #6
I'm tired of all this winning!!! Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #10
Chump should stay in Dump Tower CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #7
I get a kick out of us citizens who think the Russians would spend decades Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #18
Art of the Deal . He knows how to do it bigly lunasun Mar 2017 #8
blowharder Marthe48 Mar 2017 #9
Trump the chump stumps and schlumps, bigly. C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #16
They probably do not think that Trumpee will make it to the midterms either. mackdaddy Mar 2017 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author ButSeeYa Mar 2017 #20
Me, still awaiting a bigly win... ButSeeYa Mar 2017 #21
What A Colossal Jerk colsohlibgal Mar 2017 #23
Who knew that people would be turned off by a blowhard asshole?? Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #26
Pigeons come home to roost Miles Archer Mar 2017 #27
Excellent points...and I'm loving every minute of it... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #30
Look at me! I'm the healthiest person on earth! You should be lucky to look as good as me! RKP5637 Mar 2017 #28
As the world laughs at the US and this damn fool elected! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2017 #29
Perhaps they are not as dumb as Trump thinks Wash. state Desk Jet Mar 2017 #35

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
14. I posted a Scarborough clip earlier today...
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 12:02 PM
Mar 2017

...he premise was that Republicans are "no longer afraid of Trump," and that he came to this conclusion by speaking with some of them personally.

He said that the tweets, specifically the "tapp" tweets, killed what was left of his credibility.

If they vote for RyanCare, it's a bloodbath in 2018. No one affected by the changes will even consider voting Republican. Maybe a crazy few who will believe it when Kellyanne Conway says that we wouldn't be in this situation if Obama hadn't screwed it up first.

If they don't for RyanCare, it's a bloodbath in 2018. All of the red hats yelling "You lied, you were gonna get rid of Obamacare!"

So you have a Republican house yelling "FULL STEAM AHEAD" without the necessary votes, and a President whose Art of the Deal days are over.

Sad!

Not really.



Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
4. What I want to know is how many, who specifically in the GOP who is against this bill
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 11:46 AM
Mar 2017

is against it because it doesnt do ENOUGH harm to poor people?

I wish we could have a site dedicated to that.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
11. It's in the article...I was obeying the 4 paragraph rule
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 11:54 AM
Mar 2017

NBC News said following Republicans were preparing to vote against their party’s health care bill.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH)
Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC)
Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI)
Rep. Dave Brat (R-VA)
Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID)
Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL)
Rep. Rob Wittman (R-VA)
Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY)
Rep. Tom Garrett (R-VA)
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtin (R-FL)
Rep. Leonard Lance (R-NJ)
Rep. Mark Amodei (R-NV)
Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-OK)
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX)
Rep. Mark Sanford (R-SC)
Rep. John Katko (R-NY)
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA)
Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC)
Rep. Ted Budd (R-NC)
Rep. Rick Crawford (R-AR)
Rep. Lou Barletta (R-PA)
Rep. Ted Yoho (R-FL)
Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-TN)
Rep. Warren Davidson (R-OH)
Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ)
Rep. Rod Blum (R-IA)
Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD)

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
13. Thank you. Is their beef that it still provides too much help for the poor?
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 11:57 AM
Mar 2017

I think so, I think they are against it because ANY help for ANYBODY that can be connected in ANYWAY to Obama, is no good.

How do these people

never mind

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
15. Yeah, unfortunately, most of what I have been reading indicates they feel it is "not enough."
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 12:04 PM
Mar 2017

They really are on board with Ryan on gutting Medicaid and Medicare.

What they don't like is that they somehow want the language tarted up so that the less inquisitive out there won't see the word "genocide" on the page.

Make no mistake, this is not a case of "compassionate conservatism."

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
19. I hope their voters find out what they want and that it includes their Medicare and Soc Sec
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 12:08 PM
Mar 2017

while I expect them to literally kill me, I do want to watch the destruction play out first.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
22. I had little hope that Tea Party love Rep Steve Pearce
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 12:26 PM
Mar 2017

...would appear that, but I had to look ....thanks for letting us know. I posted on his Face Book page and got one more dig in.
Our Indivisible group went to a mock Town Hall in Las Cruces, a real Town Hall in Las Cruces and a real Town Hall in Ruidoso. Our group got most of the 40 questions, but he lied (so surprised), he pivoted, he segued ....actually quite well.

New Mexico gives a one-of-a-kind (no other state has anything like this) freedom to our Land Commissioner, who wants to steal/transfer all of our National Forests, National Parks, National Monuments, BLM to folks who want to buy them, to our (very poor) state which will sell them to oil industry and those giant for-rich-only hunting preserves (think where Scalia died, where Cheney shot friend). Our Land Commissioner is on the short list for BLM national position and our Tea Party Rep Steve Pearce for our Land Commissioner.

For all who have loved hiking, hunting, camping, bird watching, picnicking, fishing or even just driving through forests instead of oil pumps...keep up the activism by calling YOUR Reps and Senators.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
24. It's bad when you have lost Louie Gohmert......
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 12:37 PM
Mar 2017

Keep talking, you orange dufus...keep talking to them.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
31. Freedom caucus members are
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:36 PM
Mar 2017

About 29 of them will vote against it because it does not go far enough... then you have a dozen or so moderates who won't vote for it because it goes too far..
This bill is doa.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
7. Chump should stay in Dump Tower
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 11:51 AM
Mar 2017

permanently.

Every time he shows his ugly face more people run as fast as they can to get away from this traitorous freak!

Impeach this awhole TODAY, not tomorrow!!



Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
18. I get a kick out of us citizens who think the Russians would spend decades
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 12:07 PM
Mar 2017

and hundreds of millions or BILLIONS of dollars planting deep cover agents here in all kinds of places, including media, politics, election precinct captains, etc and then on November 9 2016 leave it up to the VOTERS


silly us, of course not...they stole this motherfucker big time

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
9. blowharder
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 11:51 AM
Mar 2017

ha-ha-ha They are screwed either way. Well done trump-pence-ryan-koch-mcconnell. I hope we can undo gosuck on the S.C. Such a smarmy little bastard.

mackdaddy

(1,527 posts)
17. They probably do not think that Trumpee will make it to the midterms either.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 12:04 PM
Mar 2017

Kind of an empty threat if he is already gone like last years rotted Jack-o-lantern.

Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
23. What A Colossal Jerk
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 12:33 PM
Mar 2017

For the life of me I cannot figure how non White Nationalist people decided this rude oaf and serial liar was fit for this office.....because in no way is he.

Buyer's remorse has to be picking up steam daily.

If we have an extended future history you wonder what people will make of all this.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
27. Pigeons come home to roost
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:16 PM
Mar 2017

Throughout the primaries and the general election, many pundits pointed out that there is a "system" in Washington.

They also said that while Trump could go out to his "rallies" and be the "Celebrity Apprentice Presidential Candidate," if he ever landed his ass in Washington, he's find out quickly that the "system" didn't play by his rules.

Being the ultimate narcissist, this news of his "dealmaking" gone south must be driving him up the wall today.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
30. Excellent points...and I'm loving every minute of it...
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:19 PM
Mar 2017

Here's hoping the "ultimate meltdown" occurs live so we can all watch the show!

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
28. Look at me! I'm the healthiest person on earth! You should be lucky to look as good as me!
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:16 PM
Mar 2017

This guy is the biggest flaming asshole I think I've ever seen in presidential circles. How he got elected is incredible. We truly are living in Idiocracy!

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