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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 09:26 PM Mar 2017

Violence erupts at pro-Trump rally in California

Source: MSN/LA Times

HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. — Violence erupted at a Make America Great Again rally in Huntington Beach on Saturday when an anti-Trump protester allegedly doused the female organizer of the event with pepper spray and was immediately set upon by a group of Trump supporters.

After spraying the march organizer, the man, wearing a black mask, was tackled by a group of flag-waving Trump supporters, who started punching and kicking him, according to witnesses at the scene.

The crowd then chased the man, who jumped over a fence and started running along Pacific Coast Highway, where he was detained by California Highway Patrol officers.

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The noontime rally and march at Bolsa Chica State Beach drew hundreds of flag-waving supporters of President Donald Trump.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/violence-erupts-at-pro-trump-rally-in-california/ar-BByM5PN?li=BBnb7Kz

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Violence erupts at pro-Trump rally in California (Original Post) TomCADem Mar 2017 OP
Stupid and childish superpatriotman Mar 2017 #1
+1 Freethinker65 Mar 2017 #9
Why am I not surprised? But the very first (second) thing was "bet it's staged". flying_wahini Mar 2017 #2
Yep. nocalflea Mar 2017 #28
and OF COURSE this will be the lead story on Breitbart and Fox Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #32
IMO, Bannon/kellyanne trump campaign 'team' breibart/fox are in the loop of black mask violence. Sunlei Mar 2017 #37
I certainly wouldn't put it past them Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #39
I have been saying all along this is Breitbart.. coco22 Mar 2017 #41
Black mask? Pepper spray? Warpy Mar 2017 #3
+1 dalton99a Mar 2017 #7
+2 mdbl Mar 2017 #13
Aren't the black mask people called the "Black Bloc"? It feels like years ago (scary!!) , but Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #14
Thanks for article. It has some history of the Black Bloc movement. riversedge Mar 2017 #22
The ones wearing professional gear aren't Black Bloc. They are paid agitators. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #38
well, if he was arrested, will be good to learn some background on him Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #33
That's one hell of a big "IF," cowboy Warpy Mar 2017 #42
yes, I hear you. If they are sophisticated, no doubt they will keep names out of news Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #43
Protests are fine, but the moment someone starts the violence, those responsible for that, have still_one Mar 2017 #4
Genuine, or a provacateur??? elleng Mar 2017 #5
Could be either one, plus it could be an anarchist also, just to stir things up still_one Mar 2017 #6
probably a trump plant mdbl Mar 2017 #16
more likely than not still_one Mar 2017 #17
Provacateur IMO. zentrum Mar 2017 #11
Nihilists. C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #8
The Dude abides... winstars Mar 2017 #25
Fucking nihilists... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #27
Doesn't sound like one of... zentrum Mar 2017 #10
Yes, something like that. elleng Mar 2017 #12
Black bloc ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #15
At least they caught the "anti-trump protester", and it was in California.... George II Mar 2017 #18
Kick for exposure! red dog 1 Mar 2017 #19
Might be anarchists ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #20
I know many anarchists. Scruffy1 Mar 2017 #24
Let's not jump off the cliff here with wild speculation. longship Mar 2017 #21
It's natural. Igel Mar 2017 #23
Funny how the violence is *ALWAYS* on their side. Initech Mar 2017 #26
OMG, I used to live in Huntington Beach and know yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #29
Video and description here: muriel_volestrangler Mar 2017 #30
plenty of pictures of their faces PeacefulPeavey Mar 2017 #31
welcome to DU! Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #34
The main ones who start violence, break glass, pry up bricks- always are masked. Sunlei Mar 2017 #36
more of the same "the man, wearing a black mask" fake & violent troublemakers "someone" Sunlei Mar 2017 #35
Can't wait till this summer.. coco22 Mar 2017 #40
Tips and tricks from an ANTIFA/Black Bloc veteran Henry Krinkle Mar 2017 #44
Looks like the Trumpees attacked first and the pepper spray was used in defense. Kablooie Mar 2017 #45

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
28. Yep.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 02:54 AM
Mar 2017

Keep running into the "violent left " theme on social media . Great way to discredit dissent.
Thank god MLK Jr. understood this dynamic . (Sadly ,too much of white america still buys into the blacks are inherently violent myth. )

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
37. IMO, Bannon/kellyanne trump campaign 'team' breibart/fox are in the loop of black mask violence.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:44 AM
Mar 2017

A lot of backpack,masked, 'dressed in black' were arrested during inauguration day WashingtonDC 'violence' & seem to be less active, fewer in numbers at protests after that day.

IMO, Bannon still has 24/7 "presidents ear" and Trump has personal contact with fox every single day

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
39. I certainly wouldn't put it past them
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:13 AM
Mar 2017

they are all about projection, and they make a big deal about Dems/Soros paying fake protestors

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
14. Aren't the black mask people called the "Black Bloc"? It feels like years ago (scary!!) , but
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 09:46 PM
Mar 2017

I believe this same black/clad black/masked group was present on inaug. Day in DC and at anti-Milo protest in Berkley and maybe one other "event"...

On edit - yeah, there's a million articles about them:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/02/02/black-bloc-protests-return-for-trump-era-leaving-flames-broken-windows-from-dc-to-berkeley/?utm_term=.94f5ce5a9e3c

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
42. That's one hell of a big "IF," cowboy
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 03:33 PM
Mar 2017

I lived through the 60s and 70s. The fRight wing hasn't changed their tactics.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
4. Protests are fine, but the moment someone starts the violence, those responsible for that, have
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 09:31 PM
Mar 2017

just invalidated their protest


still_one

(92,190 posts)
6. Could be either one, plus it could be an anarchist also, just to stir things up
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 09:32 PM
Mar 2017

It sounds like they caught him or her so it should be easy to determine

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
16. probably a trump plant
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 09:47 PM
Mar 2017

they want to make themselves look like the victim instead of the perpetrators.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
10. Doesn't sound like one of...
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 09:42 PM
Mar 2017

..our own at all. Black Flag. Someone from the Bannon side who wants to create a reason for a police state.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. At least they caught the "anti-trump protester", and it was in California....
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 09:53 PM
Mar 2017

....so we can realistically find out if he was really a "protester" or a trump plant.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
24. I know many anarchists.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 11:54 PM
Mar 2017

The mainstream of anarchy would include the beliefs of Tolstoy, Bukinun, and many other non violent philosophers. All the ones I know are peaceful to the extreme, sometimes even when they are being assaulted. To most of them violence would betray their social principles. Simply put they would say that using violence would be another form of oppression and they don't want to be oppressors. It's not exactly a mainstream view, but I have worked with several on community policing and labor issues with no problem. it seems that only in America is anarchists always associated with violence instead of people who are simply opposed to being oppressed or oppressing others.
To me the black bloc is more like an impromptu street gang looking for a pointless rumble.

longship

(40,416 posts)
21. Let's not jump off the cliff here with wild speculation.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 10:28 PM
Mar 2017

At this time there is no reportage indicating anarchist or Trump insider involvement. Agent provocateurs? BAH!

Don't be like the TROOTHERS and buy into this likely utter bullshit. Let the story play out and let the journalists do their jobs. Some of you are reading like the certifiable Sandy Hook truthers.

Igel

(35,304 posts)
23. It's natural.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 11:07 PM
Mar 2017

The JCC threats all sort of were judged to be the work of white nationalist Trump supporters.

Some probably were. But a good part of them turned out to be perpetrated by neither.

When suspicions are judged to be facts, then accepting "fake news" is automatic.

Initech

(100,072 posts)
26. Funny how the violence is *ALWAYS* on their side.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:57 AM
Mar 2017

You know when people show up to a rally with ski masks and crowbars, they're not there to hold hands and sing kumbaya.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
29. OMG, I used to live in Huntington Beach and know
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 05:46 AM
Mar 2017

Bolsa Chica at Warner ave. Its sicking to know there were Trump supporters even in the area... bleh...

muriel_volestrangler

(101,315 posts)
30. Video and description here:
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:05 AM
Mar 2017
In case it gets taken down, here's the synopsis: While protestors are chanting "USA! USA!" a Trump supporter points to a man in a Desert Storm cap and tells his friend (let's call him Trump Friend) that the cap-wearing fellow (let's call him Cap Guy) pushed a woman down. Trump Friend then shoves Cap Guy, at which point a young man wearing a black beanie tries to intervene. Trump Friend then starts punching the young man, with other Trump supporters jumping in.

The young man? Weekly intern Tristan. Cap Guy? Weekly photographer Brian Feinzimer. His alleged push of a woman? He took away a flag from a lady who had swatted Weekly photographer Julie Leopo with it, then was waving it wildly in front of Feinzimer's camera. He threw it on the ground; she grabbed onto him. he raised his arm to get her away; she fell to the ground. There, she found her flag, tried to whack it at Feinzimer, and walked away to wave the flag elsewhere.

This is when Trump Friend Jumps in. Sterling pushed Trump Friend away from Tristan. Then, a man in a gray shirt grabbed Tristan by the jacket and began punching him in the head and face. Sterling then tried to push away Gray Shirt Guy, at which point an anarchist used pepper spray to get Gray Shirt Guy but also got Sterling and others on the scene. (see the entire chain of events, starting with the flag-waving lady, at 7:00 of this KTTV-TV Channel 11 chopper video).

http://www.ocweekly.com/news/huntington-beach-pro-trump-march-turns-into-attack-on-anti-trump-protesters-press-7991623



I doubt that's staged in any way - too chaotic. Sterling was doing the right thing, trying to stop people from her side punching counter protestors. The guy with the pepper spray didn't have justification for using it - "Gray Shirt Guy", while he had thrown punches before, wasn't within reach of anyone apart from Sterling when the spray was used - the sides had parted.
 

PeacefulPeavey

(24 posts)
31. plenty of pictures of their faces
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:53 AM
Mar 2017

cant a trump rally is happening in any place in California, but at least their is plenty of exposure of the agent provocateurs faces - should be easy enough to identify them!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
35. more of the same "the man, wearing a black mask" fake & violent troublemakers "someone"
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:22 AM
Mar 2017

SOMEONE organizes and sends that team to as many trump protests as possible to foment violence- create headlines and media photos.

That Team of violent, black dressed, backpacked, masked people even have their own professional cameramen IN the team.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
45. Looks like the Trumpees attacked first and the pepper spray was used in defense.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:12 PM
Mar 2017

A newspaper intern and photographer were attacked.
The counter demonstrators got involved to try and break it up.
The Trumpee woman was also trying to help break it up and was sprayed by accident, according to the article.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-trump-rally-20170326-story.html

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