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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:37 PM Apr 2017

United Airlines CEO apologizes for horrific event, promises review of policies after passenger...

Source: The Washington Post




United Airlines CEO apologizes for ‘horrific event,’ promises review of policies after passenger violently deplaned

By Avi Selk and Lori Aratani April 11 at 3:18 PM

After two days conflicting corporate statements, falling stocks and swelling outrage, United Airlines entered full-scale mea culpa mode Tuesday afternoon, as its chief executive announced an internal investigation into a Sunday-evening flight in which a man was dragged violently from his seat so a crew member could have it.

“I continue to be disturbed by what happened on this flight,” United chief executive Oscar Munoz wrote in a statement.

“I deeply apologize to the customer forcibly removed and to all the customers aboard. No one should ever be mistreated this way.”

“We are going to fix what’s broken so this never happens again,” Munoz wrote — promising a report on the beleaguered airline’s policies on calling police, transferring crew and “how we handle oversold situations.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2017/04/11/amid-pr-fiasco-over-dragged-passenger-united-ceo-defends-his-crew/?utm_term=.908e453f2679&wpisrc=al_alert-national&wpmk=1

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United Airlines CEO apologizes for horrific event, promises review of policies after passenger... (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2017 OP
What he "continues to be disturbed by" is louis-t Apr 2017 #1
is this while he sends KT2000 Apr 2017 #2
And leaks to the Daily Mail that the victim is a convicted drug dealer. meadowlander Apr 2017 #22
Yep. dalton99a Apr 2017 #29
Desperately trying to put the shit back in the horse. Charles Bukowski Apr 2017 #3
Sonny boy Kushner doesn't care about that guy be dragged down the isle... Bengus81 Apr 2017 #4
Simple solution, keep 4 seats as reserve seats for United's personal only on every flight. NT cstanleytech Apr 2017 #5
Or if they don't often need to do this, they should have plenty moonscape Apr 2017 #10
That to though there would still have to be a cap and random removal of passengers if no one cstanleytech Apr 2017 #11
No, it would end up what the market would bear. There is a tipping moonscape Apr 2017 #14
They did offer money... jimmil Apr 2017 #24
I'm quite sure the CEO wishes their policy was to offer more - for another 500 moonscape Apr 2017 #38
That EXACT thing happened to me but from Hawaii to LA. jimmil Apr 2017 #41
STOP OVERBOOKING! muntrv Apr 2017 #6
Pass a law,min $2,000 per person per day ejected plus hotel and all transportation.... Bengus81 Apr 2017 #7
Exactly, with a built in COLA. nt SunSeeker Apr 2017 #9
For $8000, they could have CHARTERED a private plane colorado_ufo Apr 2017 #23
Company needs to lose millions of dollars before he admits wrongdoing IronLionZion Apr 2017 #8
Running scared due to stock tanking Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #12
He should have also apologized for his offensive "re-accomodate" reference from yesterday. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #13
He is Mexican, so maybe he doesn't understand the problem with that greenlife1 Apr 2017 #28
Ben Carson is black, and a white supremacist dalton99a Apr 2017 #30
No excuse, he speaks English. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #34
The guy is the CEO of a major U.S. airline, athena Apr 2017 #35
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #42
He is an American. His culture is your culture, assuming you are also American. athena Apr 2017 #43
That's quite the allegation particular to an entire nationality based wholly on anecdotal evidence. LanternWaste Apr 2017 #44
Not overbooked until United valued 4 staff members over 4 customers at last minute. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #15
Maybe he should have been more "disturbed" by it... regnaD kciN Apr 2017 #16
2 days too late, after his original BS statement and WePurrsevere Apr 2017 #17
In 1978 the "airlines" were deregulated turbinetree Apr 2017 #18
+1. n/t ronnie624 Apr 2017 #37
Munoz needs to go. Now. spiderpig Apr 2017 #19
they didn't care until this went viral in China Ohioblue22 Apr 2017 #20
Precisely. dalton99a Apr 2017 #31
Huge coverage on Chinese TV spinbaby Apr 2017 #36
at the time this broke in China the tweet got retested 97000 times Ohioblue22 Apr 2017 #40
Wow, this dope really is out of it. lark Apr 2017 #21
What a pile of sh*t CountAllVotes Apr 2017 #25
Stock market woke you up, huh ? C_U_L8R Apr 2017 #26
You hit the nail right on the head. So true. Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #27
I suppose there will be plenty of empty space to seat their employees now miyazaki Apr 2017 #32
Big, giant, $250 million Fuck You Kennah Apr 2017 #33
Shitty apology jeanmarc Apr 2017 #39

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
4. Sonny boy Kushner doesn't care about that guy be dragged down the isle...
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:43 PM
Apr 2017

When's the last time that guy ever flew commercial. Maybe NEVER??-

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
10. Or if they don't often need to do this, they should have plenty
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:01 PM
Apr 2017

of cash (not vouchers!) to offer for people to give up their seats.

One of their actuarials can easily figure this out. I'm sure if they offered a few thousand per volunteer they'd get them.

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
11. That to though there would still have to be a cap and random removal of passengers if no one
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:08 PM
Apr 2017

wanted to take the cash otherwise the airlines could lose a ton of money by people holding out for absurd amounts.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
14. No, it would end up what the market would bear. There is a tipping
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:13 PM
Apr 2017

point. People can't hold out and everyone raises their hand with most losing out. People would know they snooze they lose and would volunteer at a number they wouldn't want to pass up.

jimmil

(629 posts)
24. They did offer money...
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 06:25 PM
Apr 2017

It went up to $800.00 and three people took the cash and a guaranteed seat on the next flight. No one else did. The doctor was next on the list. That is all I know. I don't know what list, who makes the list up, or anything else. I do know is that the employees say it is a federal crime to not obey orders of a flight crew member and many say what happened was a crime and the doctor should have been arrested. I definitely do not agree with that. I would say with a good legal team the doctor should own that airline by the end of the year. If he wants it. I mean it is the bottom of customer satisfaction for business first and third from the bottom in tourist class and heading down.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
38. I'm quite sure the CEO wishes their policy was to offer more - for another 500
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 12:57 AM
Apr 2017

bet they would've gotten their 4th and avoided all this.

There was another story about a man who was flying back to the mainland from Hawaii - had a full-fare 1st class ticket. He was seated and already offered and served a drink. Someone came on the plane, told him he needed to deplane - they needed his seat. He said no - and they finally explained they had someone who was more important who needed his seat.

Final insult was they put him back in coach, middle seat between a couple who refused to sit next to each other because they were fighting, and continued arguing the whole flight.

There must be a plethora of similar stories -

jimmil

(629 posts)
41. That EXACT thing happened to me but from Hawaii to LA.
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 01:09 PM
Apr 2017

Except that it wasn't a couple but rather two big German women. They argued until half way into the flight and then one swung at the other and it was on like donkey kong and I was in the middle. Wildest trip I ever took. I NEVER went back to Hawaii as that was my second time there and it sucked as bad as the first time.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
7. Pass a law,min $2,000 per person per day ejected plus hotel and all transportation....
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:47 PM
Apr 2017

Let them chew on that and see if they keep overbooking ON PURPOSE.

colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
23. For $8000, they could have CHARTERED a private plane
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 05:22 PM
Apr 2017

if every single blasted United Airlines plane was busy and shuttled their crew the distance of that six hour flight.

In the worlds of the wise Bugs Bunny: "What a bunch of maroons!"

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
8. Company needs to lose millions of dollars before he admits wrongdoing
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:52 PM
Apr 2017

Pay the passengers more until someone takes it. Not that expensive for America's third largest airline with lowest customer satisfaction.

Assholes

SunSeeker

(51,572 posts)
13. He should have also apologized for his offensive "re-accomodate" reference from yesterday.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:10 PM
Apr 2017

Yesterday in his offensive nonapology, he actually called the horror show that occured on that plane a "re-accomodation," demonstrating a callous disregard of his company's bloody assault on his customer. Until he aknowledges that HIS attitude and original nonapology are part of the problem, he can go fuck himself. Apology NOT accepted.

 

greenlife1

(7 posts)
28. He is Mexican, so maybe he doesn't understand the problem with that
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 07:50 PM
Apr 2017

I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.

athena

(4,187 posts)
35. The guy is the CEO of a major U.S. airline,
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 11:45 PM
Apr 2017

the world's third biggest airline, and you claim he doesn't speak English because he's "Mexican"?

Response to athena (Reply #35)

athena

(4,187 posts)
43. He is an American. His culture is your culture, assuming you are also American.
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 01:47 PM
Apr 2017

Oscar Munoz was born in California to a Mexican-American family. He is as culturally American as anyone. It's xenophobic to claim that just because he has Mexican ancestry, his culture and behavior must be more Mexican than American. We are talking about an American CEO of a major company, not a waiter at a Mexican restaurant. Your post is offensive.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
44. That's quite the allegation particular to an entire nationality based wholly on anecdotal evidence.
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 02:35 PM
Apr 2017

"I've seen that customer service just isn't part of their culture..."

That's quite the allegation particular to an entire nationality based wholly on anecdotal evidence.

No doubt, you believe a handful of Seattle restaurants are an accurate sampling to infer a premise from, but that would be rather inaccurate...

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
16. Maybe he should have been more "disturbed" by it...
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:27 PM
Apr 2017

...BEFORE putting out last night's blame-the-victim press release, and sending his P.R. department to dig up dirt on him.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
17. 2 days too late, after his original BS statement and
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:28 PM
Apr 2017

I'd bet it's only because their losing $$$$ and their corp lawyer advised it not because it's the right thing to do.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
18. In 1978 the "airlines" were deregulated
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:30 PM
Apr 2017

through that time span to the present at one point there were over 115 airlines in the US, in 2016 there are approximately 7, and when you purchase a ticket now, the individual now has to check the box to Agree to the Terms" of purchase.

Prior to the 1978 deregulation of the Airline industry when you purchased a plane ride, you were then able and the airline was obligated to save your seat, not any more, when you check that box, you are accepting the terms to "arbitration" and the terms of carrier, because you just gotta thank the Roberts court for that one and Rehnquist court, and there concept that Capitalism is better for everything and you the public have no say in the matter "No more". You had rights and contract back prior to 1978, but nothing now.

So when the right wing talks about capitalism and let the market place decide who wins, it nothing more than BS, because if it was a win, you would have more than 7 airlines

Below is a list of every airlines that has filed for bankruptcy, and what deregulation has done, because vulture capitalist came out of the wood work and got a hold of airlines and did everything to screw you and me and the traveling public, look at what Frank Lorenzo and Carl Icahn, Steven Wolf, just to name a few and what they did------------------I have been in this industry since 1984 and I have seen everything

http://airlines.org/dataset/u-s-bankruptcies-and-services-cessations/


spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
19. Munoz needs to go. Now.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:39 PM
Apr 2017

I worked untold numbers of overbooked flights in my career, requiring split-second decisions and having to answer to management if they thought I overpaid volunteers (unwritten rule: thou shalt have NO involuntary oversales - and make sure you get the flight out on time).

This jackass is compensated in the multimillions, has an entire mob of PR flacks at his disposal, was no doubt at home during this debacle, and he comes up with this hamhanded BS statement that insults everybody.

UA Board of Directors - dump him now.

The last people I would blame would be the gate agent(s), who were undoubtedly ordered to cover up somebody else's screwup. An involuntary denied boarding is in the lounge - not onboard in their seat. Duh.

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
36. Huge coverage on Chinese TV
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 11:51 PM
Apr 2017

I'm in Tokyo now and get a couple of Chinese channels on TV. They're wall-to-wall coverage on this. Even the Japanese stations are giving it extensive coverage complete with interviews with people who never want to fly ANY American airline.

lark

(23,105 posts)
21. Wow, this dope really is out of it.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 05:10 PM
Apr 2017

First he apologizes to the other passengers, but not the dr.
then he tries shaming and blaming the dr. and says everything was handled perfectly.
then he (finally) apologizes to the dr. and admits things didn't go right.

Bet his lawyers tore him a new one and advised him he better try to change the narrative. Only, oops, it's too late for that. United has been exposed as the hatefilled greedy corporation they are. There's no excuse for what happened, and no way United can easily recover from this major aggression to a customer.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
26. Stock market woke you up, huh ?
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 06:46 PM
Apr 2017

It's pretty disgusting that the bloodied face of your customer can't bring you to humility... but it's only the cratering of your stock that gets your fucking attention. You're a day late pal and a bazzillion dollars too short. Shame on you.

miyazaki

(2,244 posts)
32. I suppose there will be plenty of empty space to seat their employees now
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 08:26 PM
Apr 2017

One good takeaway for United, rofl.

jeanmarc

(1,685 posts)
39. Shitty apology
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 01:26 AM
Apr 2017

He blamed the victim first, let this go for days, and finally made a real apology. The CEO is a dipshit.

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