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mark fromelko

(59 posts)
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:59 PM May 2017

Donald Trump appears to 'curtsey' to Saudi king after mocking Barack Obama for bowing

Source: The Independent (UK)

Donald Trump has been accused of hypocrisy after appearing to "curtsey" while receiving a gold medal from the king of Saudi Arabia.

Back in 2012, Mr Trump criticised his predecessor Barack Obama for bowing to foreign leaders, including then-Saudi King Abdullah.

But he bowed his head while receiving the country's highest civilian honour on Saturday, the Collar of King Abdulaziz al-Saud.



Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-saudi-arabia-trip-curtsey-bow-king-salman-gold-medal-honour-barack-obama-bowing-a7747016.html



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Donald Trump appears to 'curtsey' to Saudi king after mocking Barack Obama for bowing (Original Post) mark fromelko May 2017 OP
This is going to PISS OFF his supporters. forgotmylogin May 2017 #1
I doubt it. He could take a giant orange shit on Branch Trumpvidians 47of74 May 2017 #10
I just had a local talk radio on. All Trump folk calling in approval. Midnight Writer May 2017 #12
He curtsied AFTER he bowed to let the Saudi put the medal around hus neck. SunSeeker May 2017 #13
Yep, he's taller, so he had to bend a bit to get the bling, but... JHB May 2017 #23
OMG!! He actually curtsied!!!!! LOL DK504 May 2017 #28
I guess I missed the curtsy. forgotmylogin May 2017 #31
Check out Roger Stone's response: SunSeeker May 2017 #29
I knew this would not bode will with his base. Marie Marie May 2017 #2
Oh they've already started jberryhill May 2017 #4
He bowed for the medal then curtsied after it was already around his neck. SunSeeker May 2017 #15
This is going to PISS OFF his supporters. LenaBaby61 May 2017 #6
Ah, right. forgotmylogin May 2017 #32
He's not black so his supporters don't care what he does. LonePirate May 2017 #3
Precisely. 6000eliot May 2017 #16
His hair looks ways different. zentrum May 2017 #5
Or Clairol dalton99a May 2017 #8
For sure. But zentrum May 2017 #21
fucking sigh* retrowire May 2017 #7
We're mocking the GOP hypocracy. Could you imagine the shitstorm if OBAMA CURTSIED? SunSeeker May 2017 #14
The hair!! The hair!! Permanut May 2017 #9
And Melania didn't wear a head covering even though he castigated Michelle for not doing so!! George II May 2017 #11
Yup, he sure did: SunSeeker May 2017 #17
Dainty Donny (R) Achilleaze May 2017 #18
You mean like this? DinahMoeHum May 2017 #19
Meh - a slight dip, a nonstory, imo. n/t Chemisse May 2017 #20
No, exposing this will hurt him with his base. That is why Fox News won't talk about it. SunSeeker May 2017 #24
Who wants to suppress it? Chemisse May 2017 #25
The folks who falsely claim he wasn't curtsying or who falsely claim this is a nonstory. SunSeeker May 2017 #26
Because we're better than them. forgotmylogin May 2017 #33
I wasn't asking you. But interesting how you jumped in to defend Trump by blaming his knees. SunSeeker May 2017 #34
Because I'm bored on a Sunday? forgotmylogin May 2017 #35
OFFS, I'm not stalking you. You jumped in this subthread. I have no idea who you are. SunSeeker May 2017 #36
I completely agree in every possible way. forgotmylogin May 2017 #37
This isn't about body movements, Chemisse, it's about Hypocrisy mark fromelko May 2017 #38
It's an effective strategy for the king. Everyone bows. keithbvadu2 May 2017 #22
In the US, we have medal ribbons open in the back so recipients don't bow. SunSeeker May 2017 #27
And Bannon looks terrified: christx30 May 2017 #30

forgotmylogin

(7,942 posts)
1. This is going to PISS OFF his supporters.
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:02 PM
May 2017

To be honest, he stooped down so the shorter man could put the thing around his neck. It wasn't some sort of courtly bow.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
10. I doubt it. He could take a giant orange shit on Branch Trumpvidians
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:59 PM
May 2017

....and they would still support the bastard.

SunSeeker

(57,595 posts)
13. He curtsied AFTER he bowed to let the Saudi put the medal around hus neck.
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:33 PM
May 2017

The medal was already around his neck when he dropped at the knees in a curtsy.


Look closely:



JHB

(37,958 posts)
23. Yep, he's taller, so he had to bend a bit to get the bling, but...
Sun May 21, 2017, 09:49 AM
May 2017

...AFTER he had it there was that extra dip.

Wasn't needed, so what was it?

DK504

(3,847 posts)
28. OMG!! He actually curtsied!!!!! LOL
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:39 AM
May 2017

Look at him playing with his shiny little bauble, hopefully it will keep him occupied for a few weeks.

He looks like he is going to keep going down and "thank" the king for his new toy.

forgotmylogin

(7,942 posts)
31. I guess I missed the curtsy.
Sun May 21, 2017, 04:32 PM
May 2017

He's 70. He could always say his knees failed and he lost his balance a bit.

Not that I want to help him, but that whole situation with him striding through the singing throngs like he's some kind of king is all weird.

SunSeeker

(57,595 posts)
29. Check out Roger Stone's response:
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:44 AM
May 2017



And I don't think he even realizes Trump curtsied afterward, since he doesn't watch MSM news and Fox has NOT carried this story. Fox knows this would be very damaging with his base. In fact, all day yesterday Fox ran the false headline "Trump shakes hands with Saudi leader, doesn't bow as Obama appeared to do" with a picture of him at the airport---no pictures or video from the medal ceremony. Yup, this is a big deal.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. Oh they've already started
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:15 PM
May 2017

He wasn't bowing, he was receiving a medal.

It was choreographed that way for this reason.

He'll bow, but only if he is given an award for it.

The medal in question is the Saudi equivalent of a Nobel Prize. This one is for "World's Dumbest Person." Usually the awardees don't show up.

SunSeeker

(57,595 posts)
15. He bowed for the medal then curtsied after it was already around his neck.
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:57 PM
May 2017

How do the "morans" explain the after the fact curtsy?

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
6. This is going to PISS OFF his supporters.
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:23 PM
May 2017

Kinda don't think so, because fatso's bowing & scraping while white.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
16. Precisely.
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:04 AM
May 2017

It was never about Obama bowing. It was about him being president and having brown skin.

zentrum

(9,870 posts)
21. For sure. But
Sun May 21, 2017, 08:44 AM
May 2017

..it has a new shape and controllability too. Looks like it's helped by substructure. Will never be able to tell one way or the other, but he's such a tacky representative for our country. And it always shows, even before he opens his mouth.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
7. fucking sigh*
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:26 PM
May 2017

Yep. This is worth criticizing. Totally legitimate volley to throw. Good job guys.

SunSeeker

(57,595 posts)
14. We're mocking the GOP hypocracy. Could you imagine the shitstorm if OBAMA CURTSIED?
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:38 PM
May 2017

Trump didn't just bow to accept the medal. AFTER the medal was around his neck, he dropped at the knee in a curtsy:




George II

(67,782 posts)
11. And Melania didn't wear a head covering even though he castigated Michelle for not doing so!!
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:16 PM
May 2017

SunSeeker

(57,595 posts)
24. No, exposing this will hurt him with his base. That is why Fox News won't talk about it.
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:02 AM
May 2017

In fact, Fox is LYING about it, saying it was a "handshake." Their headline was "Trump shakes hands with Saudi leader, doesn't bow as Obama appeared to do." This is a big fucking deal and Fox knows it. I am really surprised by the number of people who seem to want to suppress this story right here on DU.


Chemisse

(31,294 posts)
25. Who wants to suppress it?
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:06 AM
May 2017

It just seems like a nothing story. It's not something I would condemn anyone for, so don't want to be a hypocrite and condemn it just because it is Trump.

But if Republicans want to flip out and think Trump is a girlie-man for curtseying, I am totally fine with that.

SunSeeker

(57,595 posts)
26. The folks who falsely claim he wasn't curtsying or who falsely claim this is a nonstory.
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:26 AM
May 2017

I mean, why did you go to the trouble of posting a "meh" and trying to spin this curtsy as a "dip" if this was a nothingburger? Why even post if this story means nothing to you? I am sure there are hundreds of stories on DU right now that mean nothing to you, but you did not go to the trouble of posting a belittlement of the story on those threads.

And no, it is not "flipping out" to show the rank hypocrisy of Donald Trump to his base. Why the insult to us here that we are crazy or "flipping out" for exposing this?

I think showing him curtsying to King Saudi is one of the few things that could hurt him with his base.

Check out Roger Stones response (and I don't think he even realizes Trump curtsied afterward, since he doesn't watch MSM news):



forgotmylogin

(7,942 posts)
33. Because we're better than them.
Sun May 21, 2017, 04:54 PM
May 2017

I'm happy if the fundie right blows this up into a outrage, but this is among the least worrisome things he's done. I watched the video again. He seemed to hesitate a bit as if confused before straightening back up. He's got 70 year-old knees.

This for us is akin to the Dean scream or Gore sighing or Hillary's expression not being "pleasant" during the debate.

I'm pleased as punch, though, if this is the straw that broke the camel's back to the unreasonable part of his base, but this isn't personally what I'd crucify him for. The right love to make mountains out of tiny perceived "slights" like not wearing a flag lapel pin. I think the story is the sweet schadenfreude that this is a big deal to certain people.

We've got bigger tools to beat him with in the ever-expanding "OMFGTRUMP!!!111" box.

SunSeeker

(57,595 posts)
34. I wasn't asking you. But interesting how you jumped in to defend Trump by blaming his knees.
Sun May 21, 2017, 05:15 PM
May 2017

The person I was responding to did not even raise that.

Of COURSE a curtsy is not what a progressive would crucify him for, but it is deadly to his base. Why not use all the tools at our disposal? The ones we've been using haven't worked. His base doesn't care that he is an ignorant, vulgar bigot. They LIKE that about him. Now him showing emasculating fealty to the Saudi King, that is deadly. Why do you think Fox refused to show that video and even went out of their way to make up a false headline that he did not bow, let alone curtsy?

We should crucify him on this for his hypocrisy. How are we not being "better than them" by pointing out his hypocrisy?

And no, he was not looking confused. He curtsied after getting the award. It was a controlled drop. His 70-year-old knees didn't buckle, he didn't reach out for support, he fucking CURTSIED.

If you think this is such a nonstory, why are you chasing down this subthread over it?

forgotmylogin

(7,942 posts)
35. Because I'm bored on a Sunday?
Sun May 21, 2017, 05:45 PM
May 2017

It's just as interesting you're worked up enough to stalk my posts and defend wet-noodling 45 over this.

Here, you go ahead and take this squirt-gun curtsy thing and I'll hold on to the obstruction of justice bazooka.

I get it that you mean "every bit counts."

SunSeeker

(57,595 posts)
36. OFFS, I'm not stalking you. You jumped in this subthread. I have no idea who you are.
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:13 PM
May 2017

Trump's supporters don't care that he's obstructing justice. They think he is justified in blocking the "deep state."

The obstruction of justice argument is a bazooka only if we get a Dem majority in 2018 and can impeach him over it. The Republicans currectly are supporting Trump because their base supports Trump. If you want impeachment now, you need to made the base abandon Trump. Your bazooka isn't going to do that.

forgotmylogin

(7,942 posts)
37. I completely agree in every possible way.
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:24 PM
May 2017

Thank you for taking time out of your day to set me straight.

 

mark fromelko

(59 posts)
38. This isn't about body movements, Chemisse, it's about Hypocrisy
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:02 AM
May 2017

Trump did something that he'd excoriated Obama for several years back. That MAKES it a genuine story!

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
22. It's an effective strategy for the king. Everyone bows.
Sun May 21, 2017, 09:05 AM
May 2017

It's an effective strategy for the king. Everyone bows.

For the price of a shiny gold bauble, he gets obeisance from every awardee.

An expensive gold bauble to us; a minor expense to the king.

SunSeeker

(57,595 posts)
27. In the US, we have medal ribbons open in the back so recipients don't bow.
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:31 AM
May 2017

Even when they are super tall:

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