Scoop: Trump is pulling U.S. out of Paris climate deal

[Julian Englis]

Source: Axios

President Trump has made his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord, according to two sources with direct knowledge of the decision. Details on how the withdrawal will be executed are being worked out by a small team including EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt. They're deciding on whether to initiate a full, formal withdrawal — which could take 3 years — or exit the underlying United Nations Treaty, which would be faster but more extreme.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/scoop-trump-is-pulling-u-s-out-of-paris-climate-deal-2427773025.html

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I wish Trump's father had pulled out.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. Not LBreakingN. Posted 4 days ago from same source (Axios) in LBN.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141785922

[DFW]

2. Summer 2016:

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V.V. Putin---I might be able to inflict a LOT of damage on them, and if I do this right, they'll never see it coming.
Trump--If I lose, it was rigged. If I win, it wasn't
Republicans--We're going to make America great again

Summer, 2017:

V.V.Putin--Bullseye!
Trump--It's the bad press covfefe
Republicans--See? We ARE making America great again

Summer, 2018:
V.V. Putin--I brought them from world power to a joke in 18 months and didn't have to fire a single shot!
Trump--Jrblqrsmg wrggipp frugght rrrrrlk
Republicans--Hear that, you libtard losers? Our president is right again, as usual!

[Docreed2003]

3. Spot on, sadly....

Got any extra rooms over there in Germany? Can't speak a lick of German but willing to learn and my surgical skills should translate into a job, that is if they're hiring!

[DFW]

4. They can always used skilled surgeons here

On the other hand, you have about as much chance getting a job here knowing only English as you would in the States knowing only German. Learn the language and think up SOME kind of reason to convince them to let you live here, and you should be good (if I wanted to be really cynical, I'd say get yourself a convincing version of a Syrian passport, but they're kinda wise to that one at this point).

Are you married? If not, the natives here are VERY friendly. I know from first hand experience.

[Docreed2003]

18. It's funny the things that we used to say "tongue in cheek" that have become serious

I am married. My wife's family is from Germany, her great-grandparents were first gen American. She grew up learning German as a kid because of her background and speaks it fluently, which pissed me off to no end last month when we had a German exchange student with us for a few weeks...the two of them would laugh and giggle while conversing in German and I was convinced they were talking about me, lol.

That being said, I do speak Spanish with a dash of other Romance languages thanks to that, but that wouldn't do me much good in Germany!

We used to jest about living in Europe, but as things have turned here in the states, that conversation has become more serious. Germany is a nice option for us, as is Ireland since my family has a close enough tie there that I could gain citizenship. It's just a sad reality that I never really thought we'd have to face that our country has become so broken that we'd seriously consider moving elsewhere. We're lucky that we even have the option to consider that move.

[DFW]

23. Once you get beyond the idealist part, the details are crushing. Not a move to make lightly.

An EU country is not Switzerland. They have rules for rules that govern their rules, plus a hundred different offices and departments to be consulted before you are allowed to breathe. One of the German words with the greatest number of prefixes is "Kontrolle (control)." And the Beatles could have written "TAXMAN" about France or Germany:

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet

Their tax people don't care much about the double-taxation treaty, either. All of my income is from the USA, and some of it is by law taxed at the source. Under the double taxation treaty, that means it cannot be taxed again in Germany. They don't care. From income on which I have already paid 40% on the gross, the Germans want another 50% of the gross, leaving me with about 10%. One of our neighbors is a judge on the local tax court, and wrote his Doctorate on double-taxation. He says they are full of shit, and if the case were to come before him, he would fine THEM for harassment and not me, but as a judge, he cannot be pro-active in a case, especially where one of the litigants is a friend.

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of positive aspects, but don't expect it to be only paradise if you make the move, because it won't be.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. Good synopsis, diagnosis, and prognosis. . . . nt

[DFW]

8. Unfortunate as that is!! n/t

[demmiblue]

7. +1

[JustAnotherGen]

6. Rec is because I agree on Trump's father

If only . . .

[IronLionZion]

9. I wouldn't be surprised if one day they outlawed puppies and kittens

and sentenced all cute furry animals to public execution.

[Hortensis]

10. Amen to that last. States and individuals will have to act.

Just decided we will mark this in our house by decreasing our carbon footprint still farther.

Many obvious things are already done. We pull on sweaters rather than heat the house before the sun does it for us. Perhaps start unplugging some appliances at night? My husband'll know which ones aren't already "energy-star" types. Or what else could we do?

We've cut back our carbon footprint a lot in many ways, but I confess even this still doesn't inspire me to start growing our own veggies in this hot humid climate, beyond the usual herbs. Still, figs grow themselves in this climate without fuss and are ripening now, so I can start canning the ones we don't eat instead of leaving them for the birds.

And I'll replant 2 little sour cherries to replace the one the road crew accidentally cut down. It was a decent little producer with no spraying or other special care.

We've been planting trees for shade, though, and I can't recommend that too much, both for the house and the garden. Stopping hot summer sun BEFORE it hits the house walls yields a very large payoff energy-wise. And in hot-summer climates, giving plants some dappled shade when the sun's high does a lot more to keep them healthy and happy than trying to make up for it by giving more water.

In most of the U.S. genuinely hot summers have become the norm, and they will inevitably become hotter still -- even if we didn't abandon our responsibilities as a nation.

[dembotoz]

20. from old time motivational speaker brian tracy....if its to be its up to me

i as a general way of life have also been working to reduce my footprint

will have to just find ways to be even greener

i do have room for improvement

[iluvtennis]

11. Any and everything to tear down something Obama put in place, even though 300 corporations...

...said not to do it, Dumpty is going forward. so DESPISE Dumpty who is unfit and unqualified to occupy the WH

[yuiyoshida]

12. or used a rubber? Things might be so different today

in a "bigly" way!

[Botany]

13. Climate change in the US: Tangier Island in Virginia is disappearing

French TV program …… Tangier Island, VA in Chesapeake Bay is going underwater and the Trump voters on the island still don’t believe in global warming

[WinkyDink]

16. Trump has no hotel there.

[iluvtennis]

14. Countries not participating in Paris Agreement - Syria Nicaragua United States....shameful for US

Link to tweet

[WinkyDink]

15. His entire mindset is two-fold: 1. Grab the money and run. 2. First undo everything Obama.

[secondwind]

17. I hear this has not been confirmed yet.

[Chipper Chat]

19. Can't the United Nations expel the US for this?

Look for tourism to slow down to a crawl. Trump will next outlaw tailpipes and filters. Just let all the toxic fumes go into our noses. He has air conditioning.

[Blue_Tires]

21. ....

Link to tweet

[mdbl]

24. what an idiot

do we expect anything less of twump?

[Justice]

25. Its not that easy to pull out of it. Takes years

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029141908

[GReedDiamond]

26. "I wish Trump's father had pulled out."

I wish Trump's mother had gotten an abortion.

[KewlKat]

27. I'm convinced we need to use reverse psychology on this ba$tard! Tell him to leave and maybe he'll

stay in....?