Greta Van Sustern out at MSNBC

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Source: Huffingtonpost


Her departure comes just shy of six months after she started at the network, which she joined to anchor “For The Record With Greta.” She left Fox News earlier this year.


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Thank goodness.

[hibbing]

1. Well that didn't last long n/t

[Honeycombe8]

2. I know DUers don't like her, but I hate to hear of anyone losing a job.

She's not a bad person. In a world of mainly men and pretty women, it's tough for an ordinary looking broadcaster/interviewer to find a place.

I guess the ratings weren't there. Hope she lands on her feet.

I thought she was fine.

[TeamPooka]

7. This is not some blue collar laborer getting a pink slip. It's a propagandist for the GOP being

rejected by a mass market audience.
Good riddance. Time for her to retire. Write that novel she always wanted to write..

[Honeycombe8]

37. I disagree. I hate to hear of anyone losing his/her job. Like Olberman....

Who was rightly fired for violating company policies and lying about it. Like him, couldn't argue with why he was fired, but hated to hear of him losing his job, even though he walked away with millions in his pocket.

[DesertRat]

84. She had a distinguished career as a criminal defense and civil trial lawyer

She also has a book coming out in November. I'm sure she'll land on her feet.

[Maraya1969]

8. She was a Fox news fake. She doesn't deserve a decent news job.

[Miles Archer]

11. The show lacked true character and/or identity

That's just my opinion. I have a reason for watching Maddow, for watching O'Donnell. I couldn't find a compelling reason to tune into her show.

[Rene]

20. Joy should get a show.....but that time slot is nasty

Noone has settled down for night of tv watching yet

[Miles Archer]

23. Just posted in another thread that they have given it to Ari Melber.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/29/media/greta-van-susteren-msnbc-out/index.html

[spooky3]

28. I think Ari is excellent. I hope he succeeds. I am surprised

That they've canceled her show because it seems I saw an ad for it every few minutes over the past few weeks.

[Me.]

29. I Think Joy Should Stay Exactly Where She Is

She's thriving, doing a great 2 hr. show, beating all competition. I say don't mess with big success.

[Honeycombe8]

38. Don't care for her. Or McDonnell's show (tho I like him). Maddow's the best one. nt

[Volaris]

62. I really wish Chris Hays were still on Sat/Sun mornings.

He's a policy wonk like Rachel, and he NEEDED two hours to do the kind of deep background he's very good at.

I watched one episode of him on an hour-long and turned it off cause it sucked compared to what he was doing previously.

[RVN VET71]

73. I agree 100%

His weekend shows were wonderful. His nightly show, not so much.

[appleannie1943]

49. I agree it is a bad time slot but if someone decent were put in it, I would tape them and watch when

more convenient.

[LanternWaste]

18. Does that sentiment apply consistently to politicians as well?

"but I hate to hear of anyone losing a job..."

Does that sentiment apply consistently to politicians as well, or are necessary qualifiers missing?

[Honeycombe8]

40. Politicians are elected. Employees are hired. Tricks are for kids. nt

[crim son]

74. But both maintain their positions only if they continue to satisfy those who observe them. n/t

[YOHABLO]

22. Lands on her feet? Pleeze she's got millions and an attorney.

[Honeycombe8]

43. As I said, DUers wouldn't agree. I stand by my statement.

For some reason, I am able to be objective about people, even if I don't agree with their views. I understand that most people are not like that.

I said once about a supervisor that she did good work. A co-employee said to me, in a snarky way, "Well you've changed YOUR tune." (I had previously agreed with her that we didn't like that supervisor personally.) But no, I hadn't changed my tune. Her work, and whether I personally liked her, were two different things.

Sustern seems genuine in her views, somewhat objective in her interviews (moderate, but tilted right), pleasant, polite, lets interviewees fully answer her questions, honest, reputable. So she was fine. She was not far left or far right. Which is fine. She most definitely was not a voice for the GOP or far right and did not spout their talking points, from what I saw. But if someone only wants to hear a certain view, that person wouldn't want to hear someone with a different view.

I do like to hear all views, up to a point. If the people are respectful and not too extreme.

[flibbitygiblets]

72. I don't get why people (on another thread) are so disdainful of her. She's not GREAT, but

it seems like just because she was on FOX she's reactively almost ...hated. I watched her show (rather, didn't change the channel) when she was on because she seemed to be doing similar stories as the earlier shows, but maybe with a slightly different (more right?) take on it. But she did seem to be fair, and not so opinionated as some. And fact-based, not at all like FOX.

I assumed MSNBC was hiring a few moderate righty's to bring in audience that might usually only watch FOX. VanSustern didn't seem all that ideological. But as others mentioned, not as much personality or perspective as some of the other show hosts.

[question everything]

25. At least in the Midwest, her show was at the same time as local and network news

The only time that we would hear what is happening in the world - more or less.

The only time when, at least one local station, would not spend half airtime on sports.

Let's face it: we don't get news from the anchor-centered MSNBC programs.

Or CNN. One has to read the moving tape below the screen to find out what is happening.

[Binkie The Clown]

27. Can't say I'd hate to see Trump lose his job. n/t

[MrPurple]

39. She'll get paid the rest of her contract for doing nothing, no need for pity

It was a dumb hire by MSNBC. She's dull and doesn't mesh with their target audience. I agree that it's unfairly hard for a woman with non-model looks to become an anchor, but I still didn't enjoy the show.

Joy Reid would be a quality replacement.

[Honeycombe8]

45. Maybe I'll watch Joy again. Don't understand why some like her show.

I don't care for her. She grates on my nerves.

[PatSeg]

50. I hate hearing that someone has lost their job

as a rule, but someone like Greta is not going to be hurting. She is alleged to be worth $35 million and pretty can do what she wants with her life. Sounds like this was a mutual agreement and I'm quite sure walked away with a decent sum of money. She was just not a good fit at MSNBC, really bad decision in the first place.

[a kennedy]

61. Ugh......really did not like her style.....glad she's gone.

She'll land on her feet, and to think she was the TV lawyer for the O. J. Simpson trial. She'll be fine.

[7962]

89. MSNBC says she "wasnt confrontational enough". Sad that this is a job requirement.

They should have known that when they hired her; she had the same style on Fox & CNN

[Sneederbunk]

3. Are you paying attention Hugh Hewitt?

[YOHABLO]

24. Yeah, is this MSNBC's new fair and balanced programming? No one wants Hewitt on there.

[DeminPennswoods]

86. Who'll be watching at 8AM Sat?

Really, who is going to be watching Hewitt at 8AM? And, he's only on for 30 mins. They'd get better ratings from an infomercial.

[TeamPooka]

4. Independence Day! Freedom!

[iluvtennis]

5. Good, never should have been on MSNBC. BTW, no respect for Greta as political commentator...

but I do respect Greta from back in the day as an attorney reporting on trials.

[BumRushDaShow]

12. I remember when she did the OJ trial and was informative

but then like Lou Dobbs, she signed the dotted line and went completely RW loon.

IMHO, for all of them, what really is their purpose anymore? The loons got what they wanted. All 3 branches of government and the ability to destroy everything around them how they want, when they want.

[Honeycombe8]

47. Actually, she did not go RW crazy.

I admit I didn't watch Fox much. Don't know why I watched it at all back then. I think I'd flip thru the morning shows?

But I did notice a few times that Sustern was different from the others. She did not speak exactly the same, or all, the RW talking points. And once, she was in a right wing panel where they were all discussing how "others" were trashing Bush about something. They went on and on about it. (This was a common thing they did on their morning show...they'd say "everyone" has been talking about how Bush said this dumb thing...but others were NOT talking about that, until THEY made it a topic on their show.) Anyway, Sustern piped up something like, "I don't get it. People have been saying that? Who's been saying that?" The others were stunned and literally speechless, until they changed the topic.

[BumRushDaShow]

51. No she was Foxified

in more ways than one.

She mostly towed the Faux line - notably when it came to Obama bashing.

[Honeycombe8]

59. She was fine. Different viewpoints are important.

It's not good when a place hires ONLY one kind of person. I thought we all knew that by now. Not all white or all black or all left or all right or all non-disabled or all whatever.

She's fine. I gave you my example of a prime instance where she actually interfered with a known Fox strategy for starting a complaint meme against the Democrats. Foxers didn't do that.

[BumRushDaShow]

64. I don't mind "different viewpoints"

I have listened to them since the early days of RW talk radio in the '70s before Limbaugh & Hannity, with folks like Bob Grant, Rev. Les Kinsolving, Irv Homer (here in Philly), etc. I watched her back when she was on CNN and her move to Fox (like Juan Williams) meant she had to appeal to their audience, similar to Lou Dobbs. Stuff like this is just nonsense -

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/21/awful_dumb_stupid_fox_news_greta_van_susteren_rails_against_obama_for_dividing_the_country_by_booting_andrew_jackson_for_harriet_tubman_on_the_20/

I have lost patience over the years with these folks.

[caballojm]

6. Oh, now there's a shame.

[pangaia]

9. Poor woman What EVAH will she do?

Will she lose her health insurance?

[babylonsister]

10. Any guesses on who m$nbc might hire now?

Is Hannity available yet?

[BumRushDaShow]

15. I saw they are putting Ari Melber in that slot for the time being. nt

[babylonsister]

16. I've come to like him very much-works for me! nt

[BumRushDaShow]

30. That opens up his weekend slot

which I think was originally Chris Hayes' slot before Chris went to weekdays.

[State the Obvious]

41. He would be perfect! If it was a permanent choice......even better.

We need him to give us that essential legal perspective that is sadly lacking in some situations. He would also be excellent in guiding viewers through the upcoming Trump/Russia investigations. IMO...good choice.

[whistler162]

87. Well theyn just brought in Hugh Hewitt

for Saturday's.

[Rustyeye77]

13. BRING BACK KEITH !!!!!!!

[Catmusicfan]

34. YES!!!!

[Skittles]

14. ...

[barbtries]

17. i actually never knew she was there

except maybe peripherally. fox people should not be on valid news outlets in my opinion.

[chelsea0011]

19. Good. I turned on her show a couple of nights ago and she sucks. Completely!

I thought I would give her a shot, I hate anything from Faux but what the hell. And she didn't disappoint. She truly sucked.

[Codeine]

21. That's very sad. She will be sorely mi--

I can't even say it with a straight face!

[Raster]

26. nice attempt, though.

[grantcart]

32. lol. At least I can stop sending MSNBC messages every week.

[Warpy]

31. She failed to let go of her Pox News persona, I guess

and it wasn't a great fit for MSNBC, even when Lack wanted them to turn far right during the day.

I thought she'd last a bit longer than this, honestly. Ratings must have been horrendous and advertisers must have been complaining.

Megyn Kelly had better take note. I think van Susteren might have been dragging her ratings down, too.

Andy Lack might catch a clue, also: blatant, obvious right wing bias will not sell. You have to soften it a bit like Morning Joke.

[SpankMe]

33. Not that I was a huge fan of hers, but...

Her tone was pretty moderate and less right-wingy on MSNBC. I wasn't aware of any grave mistakes. Probably just low ratings. That time slot is rough. Most time zones are still at work and not watching TV news yet. It's hard to find a show at that time period that will get good ratings.

[moonscape]

67. CNN and Fox would increase viewership (even if slightly) from

the previous hour, Greta always lost viewers. So there's that ...

Ari would definitely gain viewers, challenge Fox, and give Matthews a bigger lead-in.

[DeminPennswoods]

35. Her show just didn't seem to fit

I do admit to liking Nicole Wallace's show at 4, but I skip Todd at 5, then Greta for watching or doing something else.

[a kennedy]

63. Now there a voice I'll never get used to. Ugh....don't watch her at all, eom

[jimlup]

36. Never really understood what she was doing there in the first place

I've caught her show by accident several times... it is indeed weak.

[George II]

42. I never could get past about 5 minutes of her show - she was horrible. No different than Fox News.

[Sunlei]

44. NBC needs real journalists not some tabloid woman,-fox-lies castoff.

[Paladin]

46. Glad to hear it.

I just hope MSNBC doesn't replace her with another obnoxious conservative.

[NurseJackie]

48. Greta the syllable-skipper needs Henry Higgins. It's a mystery to me how anyone...

... is able to understand more than 75% of what she says. She should find a career as a print journalist... one that does not involve speaking clearly.

[virtualobserver]

55. not being able to understand her should be considered a feature, not a bug.

But her program overall should be considered a virus.....so I am glad that it was removed.

[NurseJackie]

56. LOL! OMG! You make a GREAT point! I hadn't considered that at all!

[RKP5637]

68. Yep!!! n/t

[MattP]

52. Andy Luck needs to go

[nclib]

70. Completely agree n/t

[napi21]

53. I have MSNBC on while we're eating dinner each night. Even my husband who is pretty non-

political said to me "Who is that on TV? She's awful. They should fire her." I'm glad she's gone. Her show has been nothing but background noise for months!

[Gothmog]

54. Yeah

I refused to listen to this show

[virtualobserver]

58. I won't watch anyone who uses the term "Democrat Party".

She was like fingernails on a chalkboard.

[miyazaki]

71. Rofl. An example of how she skipped syllables?

I seem to remember a little, but it's been so long since i've seen that hagfish in action.

[Muneravenmn]

57. She wasn't THAT Bad

I didn't agree with Greta on a lot of things but I felt she was pretty tough on Trump at times and at least made a case for where we didn't agree rather than just being stupid. I liked her far more than Nicolle Wallace, who comes off as not very bright a lot of the time.

[Kolesar]

60. She defended Roger Ailes after he harassed Gretchen Carlson

The karma deficit is deep with this one.

For me, Gretchen's show was a cue to switch to CNN. I have been loving CNN since they started sticking it to President Fathead.

[NCjack]

65. Hard business. Rachel has the winning formula. Dig, dig, dig.

Explain the relationships, repeat, repeat. Assess, repeat, repeat. Don't get bogged down in Russian words. Oh, and dig, dig, dig some more, etc.

[BigDemVoter]

66. Good riddance.

[amrita73]

69. THANK YOU GOD!

[Trust Buster]

75. One FOX creep down. Two to go. Megan Kelly and that creepy white haired fool they just hired.

[Hieronymus]

76. Fine with me .. I never liked her.

[DoctorJoJo]

77. Just As I Predicted

I called her "Regretta," because it was only a matter of time until MSNBC viewers would reject this attempt to become "FOX Light," and NBC's new honchos would REGRET wasting that time slot. She'd be a better fit at ABC among the actual networks, as they ARE Fox Light. I bear Regretta no ill will, just put her somewhere where I don't have to accidentally see her, before turning the channel in time. Then I would often miss some of Chris Matthews before changing back from CNN! I'm really pissed at their adding Hugh Hewitt to the line-up, as he is REALLY an over the cliff Repuke, so he will be on borrowed time, too! Small tidbits as a contrarian commentator are one thing, but a whole show with Hugh has no chance--it will be a HUGHge mistake!

JoJo

[bagelsforbreakfast]

78. Xenu's Revenge!!!

Xenu busted from from his volcano jail and is setting out to even the score!

[B Stieg]

79. Great! I just hope this doesn't mean more Hugh Hewitt. (nt)

[Judi Lynn]

80. He's despicable. Whoever decided to give him a place there was insane, or being blackmailed. n/t

[B Stieg]

82. Absolutely agreed!

Along with his ridiculous parroting of GOP talking points making me ill, the guy makes my skin crawl every time he opens his mouth.

I really wonder what (hopefully not who) he's got locked up in his basement!

[X_Digger]

81. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. n/t

[DesertRat]

83. I didn't think she was a good fit at MSNBC. nt

[riversedge]

85. Legal correspondent Ari Melber will permanently take over the 6 p.m. time slot next month,

good news


.....According to Vanity Fair, which first reported Van Susteren’s sudden departure, Wednesday’s show was her last appearance.

Beginning Thursday, a rotation of hosts will replace her, Griffin wrote. Legal correspondent Ari Melber will permanently take over the 6 p.m. time slot next month, while continuing to provide legal commentary on both MSNBC and NBC News.

[OnDoutside]

88. That's great news, I have great time for Ari, who comes across as intelligent, competent and

caring.

It should be incumbent on us all to make sure his numbers are high, to show MSNBC that this is what we want, and are willing to support.