'They had no qualms violating my rights': OH mom says gun militia demanded $10 to walk through mall
Source: RawStory
06 Jul 2017 at 14:36 ET
An Ohio family says they were harassed and ordered to pay $10 to walk through a mall near their home, while a right-wing group group hosted a “prepper” show there.
In a letter to the editor of the Sentinel-Tribune, Amanda Sharp said she was visiting Woodland Mall on Sunday with her 4-year-old son and his father when men identifying themselves as Oath Keepers security guards stopped them.
The security guards said they had to radio ahead for approval for the family to walk from the movie theater to the main entrance and stalked them when they objected to paying admission to a survivalist event.
“When my child’s father stated that we were leaving and did not require anyone’s permission to do so, we were followed across the food court by ‘security’ the entire time, and he was giving our descriptions over his radio,” Sharp told the newspaper.
Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/they-had-no-qualms-violating-my-rights-ohio-mom-says-gun-militia-demanded-10-to-walk-through-mall/
Oath Keepers? What "oaths" have they sworn? And to whom, George Zimmerman?
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Akamai
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Honeycombe8
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pecosbob
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...to tell someone, anyone, that they cannot go into a public shopping mall. Try that crap anywhere near me and they're going to get a mouth full of broken teeth. I know this is an inflammatory thing to say, but I've about reached my bullshit threshold.
Catmusicfan
(816 posts)
gtar100
(4,192 posts)Right-wing entrepreneurship is hard at work there. Because honest work is just too hard for them.
Doug the Dem
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Matthew28
(1,856 posts)Religious fascist state that uses violence, hates the press and hates human rights....
Time to fight for our freedom with every ounce of ones being.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)would get me flagged in two seconds.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)
3catwoman3
(28,579 posts)...imaginations - 
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)
Matthew28
(1,856 posts)They love no government? Well, they got their wish.
TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,936 posts)or what about mall security? Were they taking a day off or something while this was going on? 
atreides1
(16,799 posts)Nothing more then a crew of former military and law enforcement thugs! Their ranks are filled with bigots, racists, and gun humpers who pretend to be patriots, when the truth is the entire bunch of slags are nothing more then the Keystone Cops version of Brownshirts!!!
msongs
(73,075 posts)
calimary
(89,034 posts)And I'm not talking about the hideously-nicknamed sleeveless undershirts, either.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)One of their national leaders had to resign because he portrayed himself as an Afghan war hero,
but had never served in the military
defacto7
(14,160 posts)They should get a good lawyer and kick those Oafs right in their Keepers.
defacto7
(14,160 posts)
Initech
(107,410 posts)
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)Just call 911 and say you are being attack.
I would have raised all kinds of hell.
IronLionZion
(50,816 posts)current or former, and don't follow laws they don't agree with. They get a lot of support from police and even provide surge support in many law enforcement actions like riot control or intimidating minorities in hot spots like Ferguson Missouri.
I doubt the police or lawyers would help much unless they are caught on video actually shooting someone over $10. And even then they'd likely get away with it.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)
niyad
(129,513 posts)TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)
Doreen
(11,686 posts)to come over and discuss the issue. I would not have argued or said anything just call the police.
dhill926
(16,953 posts)
With a FB Live running at the same time! Recording, documenting, and shooting my mouth off
Doreen
(11,686 posts)I would want them to look as absolutely bad as possible and if I am being polite and not speaking It would just make them look even dumber....well, make them look as dumb as they already are.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)msongs
(73,075 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The "raw story" isn't fully baked. The space was rented exclusively for the event to which an admission fee was required.
defacto7
(14,160 posts)If it was exclusively rented for the event it must have been posted that the mall was off limits to the non-paying public. Malls are usually open to the general public so it may have been mistaken for a public place of business.
Or a family of 4 crashed the joint.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The letter is a little unclear but it sounds like they were leaving a movie theater and wanted to go through the part of the mall where the event was being held.
The wackos holding the event, to which they were charging admission, apparently had to act like the assholes they are, and "escort them through" to ensure they were indeed walking through to whatever exit they were seeking.
Unquestionably, they were being assholes about it, but they had rented the space. From other searching on this group and this mall, it seems the Oaf Keepers are actually one of the mall tenants as well.
defacto7
(14,160 posts)I think the article says the OKs have a store front with an incomplete or uncompleted agreement... whatever that means. Open agreement? Free rent? No agreement? Who knows. It's all in the OK family.
raccoon
(32,206 posts)
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)stories get told and repeated.
The STORY here is that ADULTS meet anywhere to brag about the size of their guns.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)
csziggy
(34,189 posts)Here is the info about the prepper expo:
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We have something for everyone - Vendors, Supplies, Firearms, Knives, Adult & Youth Events, Up to 20+ Workshops & More
Whether you are a prepper, survivalist, gun enthusiast, homesteader or all the above, we have what you are looking for. You can come here to stock up on supplies or improve your knowledge.
Entrance Fee is $10 per person or a maximum of $30.00 per family of 2- adults and multiple children above the age of 6 years. children 5 and under free.
All under 1- roof at Bowling Green Ohio 1234 N. Main St. (Woodland Mall) Air Conditioned Space and (FREE PARKING)
https://www.ohiopreppershow.com/click-here-for-june-expo
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While it does seem that the preppers had leased the entire mall, from the letter written by the mother, she and her family had attended a movie and visited an arcade, entering the mall without paying the fee - maybe they arrived before the start of the expo. They were harassed while attempting to LEAVE. Would that not be considered some kind of illegal restraint or kidnapping?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Perhaps this building has multiple entrances/exits.
csziggy
(34,189 posts)One of the local theaters is in one of the malls here. Sometimes when the movie is over we walk through the mall on the way out, other times we take the exit from the theater directly to the parking lot. Once the theater let out after all the shops had closed and mall security was obvious and indicating to people which way they should go to leave.
There should have been provision made by the mall managers for people attending the theater to get out without being expected to pay a fee for an event they were not attending. But I expect since that mall is listed among the dead/failing malls management puts as little time and expense into it as possible.
On a brighter note, this incident happened in Bowling Green, Ohio. No wonder the preppers feel such need for weapons and freeze dried food, considering the Bowling Green Massacre. 
struggle4progress
(125,348 posts)
trueblue2007
(19,077 posts)Say their lives were being threatened
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)
Igel
(37,359 posts)The mall hosted a vendor show.
http://www.sent-trib.com/news/front_page/preppers-prepare-for-bg-show/article_1a2fc8ea-9dfb-5d27-938a-0de275338dd9.html
The BGPD will have an officer doing fingerprinting for kids at 10 a.m., but the department has also been asked to provide added security for the gun and knife area. "In similar cases, with gun shows, we do that," said Maj. Justin White.
In other words, the police were there, and asked to provide additional security.
https://gunshowtrader.com/gun-shows/ohio-prepper-expo/
Jun 23rd - 25th, 2017
Directions
Woodland Mall
City/State
Bowling Green, Ohio
Hours
Friday 9:30am – 6:30pm
Saturday 9:30am – 6:30pm
Sunday 9:30am – 6:30pm
Admission
General: $10.00
Max: $30.00 for Family.
Veteran discounts at the door (must prove eligibility)
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Was it a dick move? Yes.
Was the space open to the general public? No.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Can you rent a pavilion in a public park, or a section of a park for a private party or wedding? Yes you can.
In general, malls are privately owned and open to the public for business. They can, and do, rent themselves out for private events such as this one which was charging admission.
Is a street public? Yes. Can you get a permit to rent a street for a private ticketed event? Yeah, sure.
The area of the mall they wanted to walk through was rented out for a ticketed event.
Perhaps I don't understand your question. But if, for example, I rent the picnic area of a public park for an elementary school field day then, sure, it's up to me who is allowed into that public park for my event.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,557 posts)How much compensation did the stores get for losing business from Friday to Sunday? Or adjacent businesses like the movie theater, which also appears to be a tenant of the mall - did they get compensated for the loss of what a mall tenant can expect, ie the use of the mall to walk to the theater? Did the theater pass on any compensation in the form of money off the tickets those days?
Reading the letter itself, it seems less like they actually demanded the money, and more that they said they had to radio for approval to walk through the mall. Which would still decrease the traffic the mall's tenants received. I'd be surprised if the event was agreed to by all the tenants - an ironic claim for why they did it from the organizers:
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"Given the current economic situation and the potential for economic collapse or natural disasters, we're there to help," he added.
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jberryhill
(62,444 posts)A ticketed event was being held there. The advertisement for it is posted above.
Whether it is "strange" depends on the layout of the mall, I suppose. But it is quite obvious that there was a paid event going on. It is pretty obvious that whatever was going on there cost $10 to get in.
In case you missed it: https://gunshowtrader.com/gun-shows/ohio-prepper-expo/
muriel_volestrangler
(105,557 posts)Yes, it's very strange for a paid event to screw up the normal working of a mall from Friday to Sunday. That'll be most of that week's takings. From the letter:
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I took my 4-year-old son to the mall for the arcade and a movie with his father. Upon leaving the theater Oath Keepers "security" stopped us and said they needed to radio for approval for us to walk from the theater to the main entrance. When my child's father stated that we were leaving and did not require anyone's permission to do so, we were followed across the food court by "security" the entire time, and he was giving our descriptions over his radio.
This was insulting, unnecessary, and was absolutely harassment. Not only were these so-called Oath Keepers harassing us, they frightened my special needs son. This is completely unacceptable. For an organized group of people who claim to want to defend against infringement of their rights, they certainly had no qualms violating mine.
If this organization or business wants to hold events, fine. However, when doing so in an open public building, do not harass and stalk families who are there to enjoy family time.
I do not appreciate, nor will I ever tolerate being followed by so-called "security" because I am not there for their event nor would I pay the $10 for the privilege to walk through the mall. I believe that the mall and the Oath Keepers owe me and my family an apology.
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jberryhill
(62,444 posts)There is no dispute that there was an event going on which required payment of an admission fee.
The "story" is not a news article by a reporter, but a letter to the editor, so I do not expect it contains all relevant facts.
So, what do we have to go on?
1. We have a letter from someone stating they would not "pay the $10 for the privilege to walk through the mall", and saying that the people running an event were upset that the family wanted to go through the event without paying admission, and acted like jerks.
2. We have an advertisement for an event, being held at that mall, for which admission was $10.
Now, whether it is strange, unusual, or whatever, for there to be an event at a mall for which admission is charged, it is not a disputable fact that is what was going on. I am aware of malls which, by virtue of lack of tenants, have a lot of empty space and the movie theater is about the only going concern.
I was "inconvenienced" by the fact that while out riding my bike through a public park and being out of water, a pavilion which happened to have running water was apparently rented out to a private party. Had I gone into the area they rented in a public park in order to refill my water bottle without their permission - even though it's a public park - and insisted that I had some kind of right to do so, would have been rude, and it would also have been trespassing.
Now, sure, normal people manage to sort these kinds of things out. But the bottom line remains that if you have rented a space for a function at which you are charging admission, then you can certainly insist that people entering that space pay the admission fee.
The author of the letter was under the apparent misimpression that they had a public right-of-way through a private shopping center of which a portion was closed to persons who had not paid admission.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,557 posts)to use its facilities without harrassment. If the movie theater happened to be only one of a few going concerns, that would, you think, give those customers more clout, not less.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)This is a typical failed mall with not much inside:
http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2009/07/14/B-G-s-Woodland-Mall-in-foreclosure.html
News of the foreclosure action surprised the remaining tenants of the mall, who complained about the lack of business traffic. One of the mall's former anchors, Steve & Barry's University Sportswear declared bankruptcy and liquidated its holdings in 2008.
"I'm barely making it here because of the traffic," said Lori Hanway, owner of A Taste of Amish Deli, a 755-square-foot storefront near Elder-Beerman that has been open for three years. She said she's worked at Woodland Mall on and off for more than 20 years, including as the owner of her own business since 2006. The loss of Steve & Barry's and the poor economy have exacted a terrible toll on the mall, she said.
"To be honest, I was hoping it would go under so I could get out of here," she said. "My lunch [sales] have been $100 lunches, and you can't live on $100 lunches."
Several years ago, the mall's previous owners attempted to fill their vacant storefronts with "non-traditional" tenants and landed the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services and Broken Chain church, among other tenants. This year, the owners asked Wood County officials whether any public agencies needed space, county officials said.
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If the remainder of the mall is holding an event requiring admission, I don't see how going to the movie theater gives one some sort of free pass.
Look, there is no question that this was a gathering of assholes going on. But it is likewise obvious that admission to whatever part of the mall they rented was up to them.
From the parking lot (compare to Kroger's down the street), it's a real hopping place:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3979034,-83.6461909,423m/data=!3m1!1e3
muriel_volestrangler
(105,557 posts)Perhaps their lease has some nasty clause in it allowing them to do so - "we may close the mall to the public during normal opening hours without having to give a reason or compensation", or something like that - but the points is the mall management, as well as the preppers, are the assholes. And it's not obvious that they had the right to screw with the theater's customers like that.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Previously, they held an Asshole Summit of some kind, and this is what the mall manager had to say:
http://www.sent-trib.com/news/survival-store-oath-keepers-multistate-summit-in-works-at-mall/article_6b09b068-fd7e-11e5-b27e-f7bf8dae2e49.html
Mallgoers who were curious about the new store’s name may have seen information on social media about a planned survivalist training summit that the Ohio Oath Keepers have in the works for June 10-12 at the mall. While the memo was released prematurely and is preliminary, both Beaverson and Getzinger noted that plans are underway for a multistate summit.
“Talks of the summit came after the outpost was established, and there are still details to be finalized,” Beaverson said Thursday. “It’s new to the area so there are going to be questions. It’s an event (that could) bring income and extra customers to my tenants. That’s my main concern is that my tenants are happy.”
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At the end of the day, if the Oaf Keepers brought in more paying attendees than usually shop at this failing mall, then the economics are pretty simple from the management standpoint.
haele
(15,070 posts)I'm not surprised, however, that in a red state the "event organizers" didn't think that since this was a mall - a common public area where there were still be some open shops, and where some people go to "exercise" that the event shouldn't somehow have barriers and ensure adequate public access easements so that people who aren't interested in their event can still get around and go about their business without impacting the event. From experience, I know that "Mall Jogging" and daily Mall walks are popular - especially amongst the mobility challenged and elderly - because of the climate control, clean and level walking area, and especially the easy access to seats, water, restrooms and a food court or vending machines if a person gets tired or needs a body function break.
Heck, even Santa puts a barrier around for crowd and access control at malls. At "Block parties" and Street fairs, markets - anywhere where there is an entrance fee or requirement to check attendees (i.e., age limits), there's got to be a barrier - even if it's just a bunch of cones and "caution" tape on sticks - placed around the entire event so there's no question at all as to where the event is and the limits of public access.
That event was poorly planned. Malls typically have event layout requirements for access to stores, facilities, and for transit and security requirements. Because most malls are concerned about getting feet into stores and facilities on a daily basis instead of the occasional one-time event rental money.
And it should have been obvious to anyone in the mall management that Oaf Keepers are going to Oaf. They should have just shut down everything for the day - including the Theater and Food Court - if there was the expectation that the entire mall floor area was going to belong to the event. No matter what, if anything at the venue - i.e., the Mall, the Park, the Street and it's shops - is going to be at all open to the public you can't block off the venue security and sanitary facilities, and you can't block off access to anything that will be open to the public.
Haele
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)In fact, the Oaf Keepers themselves are one of the tenants of the mall, which has apparently taken to renting out space to anyone who can sign a check. This hardly seems to be a thriving center of commerce.
hexola
(4,835 posts)I wouldn't assume this mall has all of storefronts rented - my local mall has a flea market in the space that used to have SEARS - and many stores are empty.
Movie theaters usually are located such that they have their own entrance and exit - so the rest of the stores can close - and the movie that starts at 9:00PM and might run past 11PM - at my local mall the stores close at 9 and they throw down the barriers - only the movie theatre side entrance/exits stay open.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,557 posts)I assumed that some of them were. They had paid to use one of the tenants - the theater.
sarisataka
(22,216 posts)No more than your front yard. Somebody bought the land and put up the mall.
Usually a corporation. Perhaps a wealthy person or group of investors. I suppose that it's possible for a city or town to put one up. Otherwise it's like the parking lot at the strip mall down the street from me: It's not county land.
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)that grants you the right to be abusive to her later in the evening? Look, I don't give Jack Fucking Squat that these dumbass wingnuts rented the goddamn space: that does NOT give them the right to act like self-appointed sheriffs!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Just for your information, one does not rent a person for a date.
However, if you rent a building, or a portion thereof, yes, you do have say in how much it costs to get in and/or who is allowed in.
metalbot
(1,058 posts)Would be taking a woman out to dinner, and then other people wandering by your table and eating your food, because after all, they were at the restaurant too, and were paying to eat there.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)The privately owned mall was leased out for a private event and that event required an admission ticket.
Are the people at the event people I want to hang out with? Of course not.
But if a left leaning group rented it out and a bunch of righties started an online whinefest we would be indignant.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Indeed this DOES happen when a public street is closed for a block party held by LGBTQ and Christian "street preachers" decide it is their day to WALK DOWN A PUBLIC STREET AND ENGAGE IN FREE SPEECH!!!
Only, it is not a "public street" for a permitted private event.
Another difference here is that the family was just trying to pass through to get to their car.
sarisataka
(22,216 posts)Tell a story about a group who are expected to be jerks and it gets Hook Line & Sinker without question.
Did the assholes have to act like assholes and not just have somebody walk the family through or simply say you're just passing through go ahead sure they could have. But the righteous indignation about rights being violated is misplaced. If these buffoons rented the space they can charge people to use the space per their ad.
defacto7
(14,160 posts)There's no false story here, just one that can easily be interpreted in different ways. Whine... hmm, an interesting way to view and possibly misinterpret the intentions of fellow liberals in the process of discussing a real incident. Some of us don't mind being wrong on occasion when putting ideas out there; I actually thrive on being wrong because in doing so, at least I'm open to learning and correcting my mistakes. Other people hate being wrong or hate it when others take a chance on learning something... Whine? Maybe, maybe not.
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)Always nice to encounter someone who can see through the prevarications! 
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...which clearly omits to mention that admission to the event was $10: https://gunshowtrader.com/gun-shows/ohio-prepper-expo/
Nitram
(27,033 posts)to take from the movie theater (which was not rented) to the parking lot (which was not rented). Those accusing indignant liberals of whining about a false story do not, perhaps, would not appear to have sufficient information to be sure they are correct. the only thing worse than an indignant whiner is a holier-than-thou liberal.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)No doubt, your own narrative is based on the same available information as are the other narratives. So I can certainly understand why you hold yours as the only valid option at the expense of others.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)That piece of information was introduced later.
Is there a serious dispute as to whether admission to the gun show being held in that part of the mall was $10?
hurple
(1,353 posts)TERRORISTS!
Radical republican terrorists, out to destroy western democracy.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)practicing.
Vinca
(53,337 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)Vinca
(53,337 posts)Apparently the mall owner rented space to this bunch of assholes and the mall owner is ultimately responsible for the safety of people who visit the mall.
enid602
(9,617 posts)In Argentina they call them Capos. You pay a punk $10 to be able to use the elevator in public housing. Mafia protection.
Nitram
(27,033 posts)militaristic and nihilistic beliefs.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)So someone wanting to shop in a publicly open store has to pay $10 to shop.
But not paid to the store or the mall.
FSogol
(47,526 posts)Nitram
(27,033 posts)about what actually happened. What we don't know from the article is if the whole mall was rented or just an area outside the storefront they opened to publicize their activities. While the Oath Keepers may have had permission to use the entire mall's floor space, that does not necessarily mean they could charge admission for anybody who entered the mall to watch a movie.
map of the mall,
https://goo.gl/maps/4sv6ZNeT28S2
address:
1234 North Main Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402
phone number (if you'd like to actually talk to someone who works there)
419.354.4447
lark
(25,889 posts)
dembotoz
(16,922 posts)I am sure they would be thrilled to discover armed thugs we're preventing access to their location
MineralMan
(150,611 posts)
hack89
(39,181 posts)they wanted to enter the reserved area without paying. The guys were assholes. But it was not a crime.
MineralMan
(150,611 posts)place to an exit. They weren't there for whatever that event was, but their way was being blocked and money demanded.
That's bullshit. The owners of the mall and the other businesses in that mall never intended for that bunch of yahoos to prevent people from visiting the business in that mall. It is a freaking public space. Patrons of all of the businesses in that mall have the right to freely go to the businesses they want to patronize and then leave via a public entrance.
Again, call 911. The cops will explain it to the survivalist yahoos. They know how to speak their language.
I don't give a damn what a bunch of wacko survivalists want. Screw 'em.
hack89
(39,181 posts)a mall that is failing to the point have being nearly empty and trying to attract non-traditional tenants. They wanted to walk through the private event.
The cops were there providing security to the gun show. I suspect they would have laughed at who ever called 911.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)So just let them leave instead of strutting around and following them to make yourself feel like a big bad ass. That is all that was. They were living out their gun humping fantasies at the expense of a regular family that just wanted to leave the damn mall. You can try to defend it all day. Its still indefensible.
hack89
(39,181 posts)it is your reaction I find amusing.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)hack89
(39,181 posts)this entire thread is like a bug zapper - the mere mention of evil gunz making people stupid.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)The cops, after ascertaining that the crazies had legally rented out that part of the mall, told the family they had no right to enter without permission of the loonies.
I do not like these types. But when I rent out a facility I get to decide who enters. Same goes for the nut jobs.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)If these Oathkeeper assholes had permission from the mall's owners to run their Cowardice Club Meetings, then the family should have either paid the entry fee or not entered.
A mall is a privately owned business.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)http://www.sent-trib.com/news/survival-store-oath-keepers-multistate-summit-in-works-at-mall/article_6b09b068-fd7e-11e5-b27e-f7bf8dae2e49.html
Mallgoers who were curious about the new store’s name may have seen information on social media about a planned survivalist training summit that the Ohio Oath Keepers have in the works for June 10-12 at the mall. While the memo was released prematurely and is preliminary, both Beaverson and Getzinger noted that plans are underway for a multistate summit.
...
Getzinger says he is planning meetings with local law enforcement agencies to discuss the summit.
Wood County Sheriff Mark Wasylyshyn noted Thursday that he received an email on March 14 from Getzinger seeking a sitdown with him, and dates for such a meeting are yet to come.
The sheriff examined a list of proposed events on the Oath Keepers’ social media posting and noted he didn’t see any activities that stand out as a danger or risk to the public.
When asked about the legality of the possibility of concealed carry occurring at the summit, Wasylyshyn noted that would be at the mall’s discretion.
“If you own a business, it’s the business’ discretion whether to allow CCW,” he said.
hatrack
(64,239 posts) jberryhill
(62,444 posts)
Mendocino
(8,374 posts)National Tractor Pulling Championship.
Staying classy! 
TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)niyad
(129,513 posts)them that since they let those thugs in there to harass mall patrons, I would be taking my business elsewhere. oh, and telling the oathkeepers I want them to repeat all their crap for my video recorder.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The Oaf Keepers are one of the few paying tenants of the mall:
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/04/oathkeepers-open-store-ohio-mall
According to Michelle Beaverson of the Woodland Mall, three people signed the outpost’s lease. She noted, “there won’t be gun sales at the store because Dunham’s already sells guns (and there’s a noncompete agreement at the mall). This (store) is something new for Bowling Green.” The store is located between Queta’s Kitchen and the shuttered World Nail.
Nick Getzinger, state executive officer of the Ohio Oath Keepers, whose wife Tracy will be involved in running the outpost, notes that the store is not owned by, and is a separate entity from, the Oath Keeper organization. The Ohio Oath Keepers is a nonprofit organization.
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http://www.sent-trib.com/news/survival-store-oath-keepers-multistate-summit-in-works-at-mall/article_6b09b068-fd7e-11e5-b27e-f7bf8dae2e49.html
A new storefront at the Woodland Mall and social media postings have stirred up questions, primarily: What is the Oath Keepers Outpost, and who are the Oath Keepers?
New to the Woodland Mall is the under-construction Oath Keepers Outpost, which will be a retail space specializing in survivalist gear, such as firestarters and emergency kits, and “prepping” equipment in case of multi-day disasters.
niyad
(129,513 posts)Initech
(107,410 posts)Fuck the Oath Keepers and their killing machines. This is harassment and intimidation.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,259 posts)Wow...
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)I'm glad I don't live in Ohio, because I'd have to straighten their shit out right quick
jmowreader
(52,897 posts)
I'm thinking the preppers rented the center court and didn't build walkways around their event so people who didn't want to attend their Paranoia Expo wouldn't have to pay them.
jberryhill
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