House Republican threatens new Clinton investigations unless Democrats stop talking about Russia

[turbinetree]

Source: Think Progress

During a CNN interview Wednesday morning, Rep. Steve King (R-IA) issued a threat — if Democrats don’t move on from the enlarging scandal surrounding the Trump campaign’s possible collusion with Russia, Republicans will have no choice but to further investigate the Clintons.

“If this continues — this immobilization of the presidency over these kind of things — it’s gonna force Congress to do an investigation, a complete and thorough investigation, and that means go back all the way to the 650,000 emails of Anthony Weiner and look at [former FBI Director James] Comey and his activities,” the House Judiciary Committee members said.

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/steve-king-trump-russia-investigations-must-stop-or-new-clinton-ones-will-democrats-b757028e05c6

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Hey, King here's a big FUCK YOU

And by the way there are 65 million of US, compared to your 62 million of you...............you lose asshole

[Me.]

1. Bring It

You'll be sorry

[Coventina]

39. Beat me to it!

[olegramps]

62. Steve King is the King of the Republican Scum

Republicans are the greatest threat to the Republic without exception. Herr Trump's syncopates are of the same mentality who worshiped Hitler and sealed glorious destruction of Germany. If Americans don't come to their senses quickly we may very well be put on the road with the same glorious results. The MSM is totally compliant in allowing vicious lies to masquerade as having the same validity as truth. As the recent article published in "Mother Jones" stated the media has allowed a protective bubble of "civility" that allows propagandists to disseminate absurdly doctored stories to be aired as unchallenged truth. The result is that the right-wing ideologues lie without consequence and they succeed because they are lies are allow to be framed as "balanced" treatment.

It is my firm contention that this is the most serious challenge now facing the Republic that can only function if it is provided factual truth and have journalists who are committed to exposing the flagrant lies that are aired and published daily to deceive the less discerning citizens. Each day in which the right-wing extremists go unchallenged brings us closer to losing the battle for truth.

[sandensea]

104. A veritable fifth column, those guys.

Ever since Nixon colluded with Hanoi, and then flooded Oakland with heroin to discredit African-Americans - to say nothing of Reagan's crack freeway!

The modern GOP bears no resemblance to the Eisenhower-era party. He must be rolling in his grave in fact.

[yuiyoshida]

63. YES! BRING IT...

Bring the light and scatter the Republican Cockroaches.

[nikibatts]

83. Who is going to believe anything they say now after proof of all the fake news they put out before?

I am sure Hillary is ready for anything they can bring. Ukraine? Hahaha... This will only lead to more insight into Russia's treachery in Ukraine.

They always fall back on Hillary or Obama when they know they have NOTHING, NADA!! Just like school yard bullies...

[Owl]

111. Yes!

[susanna]

136. Yes. Bring it. n/t

[DarthDem]

2. LOL

Sure, Steve.

What a maroon.

[brush]

17. I say bring it on too. What foolishness. Not wanting to get to the bottom...

of the trump/Putin/election scandal show no regard for the country and the sanctity of our election system at all.

Fu_king repugs are only about maintaining their power even if treason is involved.

[onetexan]

75. +1

Many many investigations already and they didn't manage to find anything on Hillary. What makes them think they can find anything? This is an extortion attempt they're trying to pull to deflect from the treasonous collusion that's transpired on the part of the trumps and GOP.

[erronis]

82. The repuglican cockroaches (I like that, sorry cucarachas!) don't want the government to govern.

Plain and simple and obvious.

They'll do anything to hobble, kill, and eviscerate the government "of the people". As long as they can make themselves and other cucarachas rich along the way.

[brush]

102. Exactly!

[PJMcK]

3. Have at it, Hoss

Hey, King!

Do your goddamn job for once. By the way, the Clintons are out of office. Who cares what they did? The problem in front of your beady eyes is sitting in the Oval Office.

Jackass.

[Moostache]

4. Steve King of Iowa? Mr. Racist himself?

Hey Steve, from the bottom of my heart, FUCK YOU!

Someone arrest this motherfucker and charge him with extortion or whatever else can keep him tied up in court until the people of Iowa wake the fuck up and stop sending him back to Washington...

[SergeStorms]

131. That's a tall order......

This isn't going to happen......."until the people of Iowa wake the fuck up and stop sending him back to Washington." I don't see the people of Iowa EVER waking up. They're too ensconced in their "fake" GOP "values" to ever wake up from their self-induced coma. Unlike some here on DU, I think wasting assets trying to win these people over to the Democratic side is useless. I think we'd be better off getting the people in the urban areas to vote, with few or no exceptions. If we can get every state's cities to vote en masse for Democrats, the RepubliCONS don't stand a chance IF we can prevent the GOP from scrubbing legit voters from the voter rolls.

[Freethinker65]

5. Call his bluff. Reinvestigating Hillary will swing more independents away from the GOP

[Eyeball_Kid]

6. Wow! The Democrats made us do it!

Go ahead, Stevie. Make it worse for your party. Let's see... Your party has control of all three branches of government, and you can't get anything done. So you... blame Democrats! And why not? Nothing else is working.

[bucolic_frolic]

7. Obstruction of Justice

Using the offices of the government for threats to squelch investigations

Investigate Steve King!

[not fooled]

41. Oh, yes

Politicized investigative and punitive arms of government--the enemy of Democracy and tool of fascist dictators. You're just exposing yourself for the partisan hack that you are.

If your supporters had any critical thinking skills left, they would join with us in condemning this blatant misuse of the power of the government.

[certainot]

119. the problem is that there are 1000 radio stations pushing this and king is

just another republican - representing a few hundred assholes screaming on 1000 radio stations - the talk radio party

a few hundred blowhards and carnival barkers whose jobs depend on echoing limbaugh and a few other talk radio gods and their careers depend on never admitting they're wrong.

the talk radio gods have been setting this up since inauguration - that it's an obama/clinton deep state liberal media conspiracy with sally yates, susan rice, comey etc. liberal ignorance of talk radio continues to give republicans like king cover and support to enable and intimidate them to keep up their obstruction and use shit like this alt reality as leverage to get compromise to save their asses. blue dog dems in talk radio states feel it too and will help these motherfuckers skate or at least greatly minimize the charges against them and who will be charged.

if americans want justice and to reduce the chances of this continuing and if they want a new election they need to stop ignoring talk radio - the biggest political mistake in history.

turn on any republican talk radio station in the country and hear these dumbasses in denial reinforcing themselves and keeping shits like king in line and in denial.

trump supporters won't come around until liberals start destroying the talk radio psyops with total boycotts and protests

[dhol82]

126. Agree. Totally!

Right wing radio has been the downfall of large swaths of this country.

[Thinkingabout]

72. My thoughts also, he must be admitting the Trump family is corrupt.

[nikibatts]

84. Let's put it out there!!! Media, are you woke?

[JaneQPublic]

8. Imagine the optics of Hillary acing yet another 11-hour interrogation

Juxtaposed against the infantile, ill-informed monosyllabic utterances of our sitting POTUS.

[irisblue]

40. Oh woe is trump then. nt

[NewJeffCT]

54. Yes, the same POTUS that whined

that a two hour debate during the primaries was too long for him.

[shraby]

9. Isn't that a form of blackmail?

[jberryhill]

12. Malicious prosecution

[NRaleighLiberal]

10. Go for it! This dude's asshole rating is sky high...

[muntrv]

11. Try it, sucker!

[gordianot]

13. That is a statement of desperation for an act of pure retaliation.

What are they going to do next shoot your dog?

[muntrv]

14. Hey Stevie, you left off "B-B-B-BENGHAZEEEEEEEEEE!"

[regnaD kciN]

15. In the words of a prominent Republican...

..."Go ahead. Make my day."

[AJT]

28. I believe he was talking to an empty chair.

[3catwoman3]

80. Talking to Steve King...

...would be akin to talking to an empty head.

[SpankMe]

16. Right out of the manual of 8th grade bullying.

Chapter 4, "How to be a total asshole".

Did the Dems threaten to investigate Repubs on matters completely unrelated to Beghazi when Repubs wouldn't stop investigating Beghazi? Nope.

This is just more evidence that Republicans aren't working for the American people. Rather, their focus is to obtain absolute power at all cost and implement brutal, authoritarian rule informed only by their narrow worldview.

Such bullshit. I think America's done.

[George II]

18. They've been investigating Hillary Clinton for decades and have found nothing.

[rsdsharp]

19. He just wanted his headline

He is not the chairman of any House committee, and is only chair of a subcommittee of the Judiciary Committee. King can't investigate anything.

[onethatcares]

20. don't know why but

A scene from Blazing Saddles just crossed my mind.

[turbinetree]

24. Which one

[onethatcares]

25. don't have the correct dialogue but

"back off or the Sheriff gets it"

[turbinetree]

26. Or when they are at the toll booth

and he sends one guy back to get change

[GulfCoast66]

42. Were gonna need a shit load of dimes!

[turbinetree]

46. On the one when he says Hedley Lamarr

[Wounded Bear]

61. I believe you mean this one (non-PC as only Mel could get away with)...

[flibbitygiblets]

21. Let's be sure to use that line against him when he's up for reelection

Imagine how much more solid proof we'll have about tRumpCo's treason by then. He just nailed his own coffin.

[exboyfil]

43. Western Iowa

The Clintons are the Anti-Christ to them. He won't lose a single vote. Perhaps if the hospitals close and the post office shuts down, perhaps they will notice. Also if Trump goes after farm subsidies or ethanol.

Otherwise slap a Latino or Clinton around. Works every time.

[niyad]

68. since he is also talking about eliminating food stamps, some of his supporters just MIGHT

be affected.

[emulatorloo]

78. Western Iowans: if hospitals and post offices close, they'll blame Obama and HRC

Steve King is the perfect representative for his district.

[nikibatts]

85. Everyone has limits. I choose to believe there is a core of decency in most people...but then

I could be wrong. One way is to get the gerrymandering out.

[exboyfil]

96. We are really not that gerrymandered

Are counties are proportioned in very much a block pattern. I have not played with moving the borders around, but you are not going to get Des Moines into King's district - no matter what you are going to do. If you did you would probably lose the 3rd district anyway.

King won 61% of his vote. We have no one to run against him at this point. Maybe you could move Ames (Story County) to the 1st and give us a shot there? That would be gerrymandering if you look at the physical map.

[progressoid]

97. Sadly, IA isn't really gerrymandered.

We have a mostly fair redistricting system. The problem is that corner of the state is chock full of right wing crazies. I know. I grew up there.

[progressoid]

99. Yep.

I remember a friend from NW IA posting an article on Facebook just after the election about farmers getting worried about corn sales if Trumps scraps NAFTA. These are the same f***ing farmers that voted for the guy. They are so blinded by their hatred for Democrats and the Clintons they don't see what the GOP is doing to their precious midwest values.

[global1]

22. Now That's Just Plain Stupid Of Them.....

it's time for them to put Country before Party and not continue to make this partisan. I can't for the life of me understand why the Repugs continue to circle the wagons around Trump and continue to protect him. After all - he is a representative of their Party and he casts a very negative shadow over them.

They have to realize the longer they draw this out the worse it will be for them come 2017 and 2020 elections.

The only thing I can surmise is that they feel that the fix is in for those elections and are not concerned about losing their jobs. OR - that Trump is somehow blackmailing the Party to make them cooperate and protect him.

Do your job - Mr. King!!!!!!

[not fooled]

45. I hope you're right, but

I dunno. Many of dump's supporters live in the alternate universe of faux and flush, and literally have an entirely different worldview, in which investigating the WH for collusion with the Russians is actually just an attempt to stop their idol from saving the universe by remaking the American government. They literally believe this sh*t.

[yardwork]

23. Bring it.

[onecaliberal]

27. That prick should be expelled from congress asap.

[gademocrat7]

29. Another lunatic in chump's cabal.

[LonePirate]

30. Keep in mind that King is merely doing the bidding of his backwards constituents.

No matter what he says or does, his district keeps electing him so they obviously are part of the problem here.

[Renew Deal]

31. Go for it

[Squinch]

32. Have at it. Forty years of Clinton investigations have never turned up anything.

[meadowlander]

98. And even if they do,

neither of them is in office so who would possibly give a shit?

[iluvtennis]

33. What an asswipe. This is extortion. Go for it, HRC been investigated and nothing found.

[jpak]

34. BENGHAZI!!!111

[Eliot Rosewater]

35. Half of this country will condone or commit treason to get their way, therefore we really

arent a society, country, anything anymore.

We are a huge, very dangerous bunch of assholes, or half of us are. The rest of the world will eventually have to deal with us and stop us from doing more harm.

[barbtries]

36. that is fucking hilarious.

and the hypocrisy as ever is absolutely breathtaking.

[Deb]

37. unimaginative losers

Bring it the freak on, we've yet another generation to witness your vengeful anti American minds first hand. Getting to know you, getting to know all about you...

[no_hypocrisy]

38. First Democratic Witness: Donald John Trump, Jr.

Under oath let him repeat that despite the e-mail promising incriminating evidence against HRC from the Russian government, there was no evidence at the meeting.

That's right. The evidence doesn't exist.

Otherwise, it would have been used. It would have been passed on to Congress.

It doesn't exist.

[DetlefK]

44. Oh God, please. Please let their 2018-strategy be Clinton-bashing. PLEASE!

[FreepFryer]

50. +1 (n/t)

[NastyRiffraff]

47. Nice try, Stevie

There's a lot of competition for Dumbass of the Week, but if it weren't for Don Junior Steve would be a contender.

[Turbineguy]

48. They call blame the Clintons

for their lack of governing.

[FreepFryer]

49. He'll go on Mueller's dark money financial investigation list for that little attempt at obstruction

Keep showing us who you are, collaborators.

[still_one]

51. do it, you racist POS steve king. Let the country see exactly what your gutter party is

[zentrum]

52. Actually, I fear this kind

....of thing will make the Dems back down.

The Steele Document was apparently something that emerged out of a Clinton request for opposition research on Trump, at least according to Democracy Now! this AM.

So the Repubs can make it be an endless tit for tat and nothing will beget nothing.

[csziggy]

107. The Steele Dossier started with anti-Trump Replublicans

After he got the nomination, they gave up and Democrats made a deal for the info.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How Ex-Spy Christopher Steele Compiled His Explosive Trump-Russia Dossier

Howard Blum
March 30, 2017 5:00 am

<SNIP>

In September 2015, as the Republican primary campaign was heating up, he was hired to compile an opposition-research dossier on Donald Trump. Who wrote the check? Simpson, always secretive, won’t reveal his client’s identity. However, according to a friend who had spoken with Simpson at the time, the funding came from a “Never Trump” Republican and not directly from the campaign war chests of any of Trump’s primary opponents.

But by mid-June 2016, despite all the revelations Simpson was digging up about the billionaire’s roller-coaster career, two previously unimaginable events suddenly affected both the urgency and the focus of his research. First, Trump had apparently locked up the nomination, and his client, more pragmatic than combative, was done throwing good money after bad. And second, there was a new cycle of disturbing news stories wafting around Trump as the wordy headline splashed across the front page of The Washington Post on June 17 heralded, INSIDE TRUMP’S FINANCIAL TIES TO RUSSIA AND HIS UNUSUAL FLATTERY OF VLADIMIR PUTIN.

Simpson, as fellow journalists remembered, smelled fresh red meat. And anyway, after all he had discovered, he’d grown deeply concerned by the prospect of a Trump presidency. So he found Democratic donors whose checks would keep his oppo research going strong. And he made a call to London, to a partner at Orbis he had worked with in the past, an ex-spy who knew where all the bodies were buried in Russia, and who, as the wags liked to joke, had even buried some of them.
More: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/how-the-explosive-russian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It was not a Republican or a Democratic candidate who asked for the research on Trump, but PACs on opposing sides.

Some of the earlier claims were that it was Jeb! who started the ball rolling, and it might have been some of his donors. But it was NOT Hillary Clinton or her campaign that had the research for the Steele Dossier done.

[zentrum]

109. Thanks for the important

.....clarification. It was explained in a really sloppy way, in passing, on Amy's show.

I'm relieved.

[Bromwell]

53. What a piece of crap!

This obsession with the Clintons......

[LakeArenal]

55. Republicans, Liars, crooks, thieves..... now

Extortionists... Stay classy, Pubs...

P.S. Jason Chaffetz is where? I don't think Fox even wants Stevie King...

[Snake Plissken]

56. Hillary will chew these weakling up and spit them out just like she's done for the last 30 years

These pathetic weaklings want no part of another hearing with Hillary in the room, especially none that he doesn't have to coddle them with political correctness ... believe me.

[struggle4progress]

57. o dearie dearie me! whatever shall we do?

[KPN]

58. LOL! Have at it dipshit!

We are coming for you ... and we're the majority, by far.

[TlalocW]

59. These idiots couldn't convict Hillary even if she HAD done something

And she was waving evidence of it around during her testimony.

TlalocW

[Mad_Mongol]

60. Oh yeah, throw us into that briar patch!

It's said that the definition of insanity is to repeatedly engaging an action hoping for different results.

Steve King & his ilk are welcomed to repeat their stupidity. We should heed Napoleon and just get out of their way...

[Still In Wisconsin]

64. Please proceed. n/t

[C Moon]

65. "Congressman King avoided the draft with "2S" deferments in 1967, 1968 and 1969."

"Congressman King avoided the draft with "2S" deferments in 1967, 1968 and 1969. Nine days after receiving his third deferment, President Richard Nixon signed an amendment to the Military Service Act of 1967 that created the draft lottery. Under the new lottery system, draft deferments were still allowed. Because he had been receiving deferments under the old draft system, King was still shielded from being drafted in the lottery system as long as he maintained his deferments and stayed in school."

[Thinkingabout]

74. Investigate King, he is sure to have many skeletons in his closet.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

106. To complete the picture: "He did not graduate."

[C Moon]

112. I saw that on Wiki, but I didn't see why I should add it...

but now I understand.

[SammyWinstonJack]

66. Wait. Whut? LOLz

[L. Coyote]

67. Please, Rep. King, keep on making yourself less and less relevant.

Shouldn't you be growing corn and raising obese hogs with federal farm subsidies?

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Nitram]

69. Desperation is sad.

They only know how to do three things: obstruct, smear, and lie.

[maddiemom]

70. A scary thought because we've "been there, done that" ad nauseum.

Neither Clinton holds any sort of public office right now. But,hey , lock 'em both up! The Republicans have spent the last eight years obstructing and have forgotten what Congress's role in governing is supposed to be. This would get them off the hook for doing anything else for four more years.

[BadgerMom]

71. Let's do this, Steve, you gigantic boil on the a** of Congress!

[Edina]

73. I try not to hate others but....

This bastard makes it hard. Saw him also coldly talking about using SNAP and Planned Parenthood money to pay for the border wall. Evil man. What is so darn scary is there are Americans who like him and vote for him. Who are these fellow citizens we share this country with? Are they nuts? Ignorant? Sociopaths like King? God help us.

[C_U_L8R]

76. Losers.

Egads these Republicans are such dopes. Why do they hate America so much?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

77. What have the Russians got on HIM?

[Mr. Ected]

79. To what end?

Mrs. Clinton is a private citizen. Congress has no authority over her. How utterly ridiculous.

[beachbum bob]

81. who cares what steve king thinks or says? The american people don't

[DinahMoeHum]

86. Neah neah-neah neah neah booga booga booga. . .

. . .fuckin' hayseed. . .

[Puzzler]

87. Ahem... Mr.King: Ms Clinton is NOT the President

... and, Mr King:

- even, even, if Ms. Clinton was the was female reincarnation of Vlad-the-Impaler, it still would NOT make a shred of fucking difference to the current culpability of "President" Agent Fucking Orange.

(Rant Mode: OFF)

-Puzzler

[louis-t]

88. I thought this was satire.

[ancianita]

89. They can order up investigations but they'll have to wait until the present ones are over. Heh heh..

These retaliatory punks will find out that they'll have to pay private investigators, anyway, since the FBI won't likely bother with specious or minor quid pro quo claims.

The Dems are pretty clean when it comes to Russia or any other hostile nation.

[WinkyDink]

90. "These kind (sic) of things"---These trifling matters of TREASON and OVERTHROWING OUR VOTE.

[tclambert]

91. Now if he threatened to investigate Daenerys Targaryen, I'd pay attention.

You can't distract us from one shiny object unless you have a shinier object. Besides, you've already investigated the Clintons a million times.

[briv1016]

92. Basic rule when investigating organized crime.

When they start to threaten you, you're hitting the right spot.

[yurbud]

93. that would make them look stupid & not bother or even interest most of us

[CanonRay]

94. Go ahead asshole

you didn't find anything the first eight times.

[truthisfreedom]

95. We are doubling down.

It's that good.

[mdbl]

100. Steve King is just an A-hole

who are the A-holes that keep voting for his worthless ass?

[RKP5637]

101. Asshole! Republicans are always such assholes! n/t

[riversedge]

103. I love that the news is talking "trump Jr emails" te he. Oh the irony!

[Rhiannon12866]

105. How ridiculous is this going to get??!!

The truth is out there!

[csziggy]

108. King does not seem to realize that it is the NEWS companies that are keeping this alive

Mostly because Trump keeps insulting them and calling them "fake."

Every time Trump dumps on them, they are pushed to dig deeper and find more dirt. And even if that didn't happen, Trump family members and other inside sources keep dropping new nuggets of pure gold into the reporters' laps.

Just because the Democrats talk about what has been found by the reporters does not mean it will stop if the Democrats ignore the stories that are coming out. Dolt45 has made sure that the reporters hate him and that they will do everything they can to find every scrap of evidence that they can.

[UCmeNdc]

110. Do it! I dare you!

The GOP would look even more stupid.

[Guilded Lilly]

113. Some people just aren't worth the foul flesh that houses their bodies.

Really professional and mature move, pal. You are everything that is skanky-wrong with the Republican Party. A perfect match for the Cretin, though. Bully, whine, project blame, threaten. And you are a general jag-off anyway.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

114. That's ridiculous.

That will only make the Republicans look even worse than they already do. As if they didn't waste enough tax payer money with all the other unfruitful Clinton investigations.

[MurrayDelph]

115. So his threat is

"If you stop telling the truth about our guy, we'll stop lying about yours"?

[Astraea]

116. If they had anything they would have used it by now

They play dirty whenever they can.

[sellitman]

117. Bring it.

They haven't the balls.

[greymattermom]

118. How about a special surtax on the rich

to pay for more Clinton investigations?

[RainCaster]

127. Great idea

And when they are done they can investigate Bengahzi and REALLY get to the bottom of that.

[KRISITNA]

120. lol we dems are shaking in our boots--NOT

[elias7]

121. It's really a matter of priorities

Do you investigate issues of active national interest and cyberwarfare, or reinvestigate a closed FBI investigation of a non office holder.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

122. Assholes like Steve King......

LIE about everything in order to get elected.

Tough titties, Steve King. The man he supports is a Crook, Liar, and Cheater. That makes Steve King guilty by association.

[Progressive dog]

123. The news media are eager to have the RW loons

on. Steve King is among the looniest of them so they'll have him on threatening Democrats to distract from the "do nothing" Republican controlled Congress and the Putin controlled Republican figurehead.

[SusanaMontana41]

124. That's about as un-American as it gets.

Crackpot.

[red dog 1]

125. "What I'm saying is this, that the Comey investigation - now him picking the special counsel on top

of it - appears to be collusion." - Rep.Steve King

(From Think Progress article)
King has his facts wrong....Special Counsel Robert Mueller was appointed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.


K&R

[Owens]

128. Mr. King explain to the taxpayers...

Why you are spending their money on another investigation on the Clintons that already has been done & over with and why you are putting your party before your country?

[AgadorSparticus]

129. Ooooooo!!! FEAR!! And desperation to be going after Hillary like this

[AmandaRuth]

130. it's the get clinton industry

big money in that

[cannabis_flower]

132. Perhaps...

We should be investigating him.

[Blue_Tires]

133. The GOP is indistinguishable from an old-school organized crime syndicate

[Demsrule86]

134. A big who cares...they will look like horses asses...

[Iplayoneontv]

135. Go ahead and waste more money

I mean it's what the Republicans do best.

[SusanaMontana41]

137. In case we weren't sure America is a banana republic,

no doubts now. I wish I had confidence such a "trial" would lead to nothing, but this kind of talk scares the crap out of me. Innocent people go to prison and rot under those systems. Innocent people disappear. Black sites exist.

"Go ahead and try it"? Maybe under "normal" circumstances. What's happening here is not normal.

My $.02.

[Blue Idaho]

138. I doubt that will win the GOP many votes

But 2018 is just around the corner - so by all means - please proceed.